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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Follow up: DYNO! MBH headers/Renntech 180mm/ 100oct

This week had been very interesting at the shop. us AZ mod nuts like to do our mods in the our off season (summer) to a friend and member putting down some blistering numbers in his E55, to my self (pat on the back) making a new C55 dyno record with 479.3whp and 580wtq. Then this happend just after my car got off the dyno...

A customer (old carts show in older post) of ours just laid down the biggest 55k dyno run I've ever seen

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Renntech custom dyno tuned 100 oct ECU map
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In any event here is the dyno chart of this brutal E55.

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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wow thats amazing , isn't this a very conservative dyno? So it had not cats all? did it have a 82mm TB? I wish I could have seen this car was it the silver one?
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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its a dyno-dynamics so they read low. and this one in particular is a "heart-breaker."

Mike, those are some ridiculous numbers. i wish i could have been there to see the dyno pulls
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RenntechE55
wow thats amazing , isn't this a very conservative dyno? So it had not cats all? did it have a 82mm TB? I wish I could have seen this car was it the silver one?
It does have a throttle body doesnt it. Not sure what size off the top of my head.

Yes this was the silver one with the Lorinser body kit.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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It does have a throttle body doesnt it. Not sure what size off the top of my head.

Yes this was the silver one with the Lorinser body kit.

Man wish I could have come down and seen it , my friend saw this car on the 101 he said it sounded amazing, so it doesnt have any cats at all?
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RenntechE55
Man wish I could have come down and seen it , my friend saw this car on the 101 he said it sounded amazing, so it doesnt have any cats at all?
None at the moment.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Will this car be at the shop next week? Chris is fixing my car and putting the LT's on so I'll be in for my tune some time next week , I'll call and make a appt. it would be nice to see this car and your headers when I come. thanks
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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That thing must eat other cars for snacks and have seconds as well...OMG..that's one very strong E55. Given the dyno numbers that looks like 655rwtq or so, that puts this car at 705hp and 800ft-lbs at the crank...all that power with heated/ventilated/massage seats, room for 5 and a good trunk...someone give the owner a ticket because what he have a combination so good it should be illegal in all states.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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What's the rwhp on 91 oct?
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If this car is indeed making that power, it is likely the most powerful E55 in the USA. To make almost 600rwhp on a dyno dynamics is simply insane. The fact that he runs 100 octane and has a tune for it slightly compromises how comparable these numbers are to 99% of the other E55s that run 93 octane tunes - but in any event, 578rwhp on DD is just ridiculous. Tell him to hit the drag strip, now.

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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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Awesome numbers.... It seems like more and more people are conquering the low reading dyno's!!!! I think it's a great sign that most tuners are starting to really understand our cars and what makes power. My car isn't quite the monster that you guys are producing but either way I'm glad things are moving in a positive direction. Once again great job and keep up the good work.

I hear that tuning with a 100 octane makes a huge difference, is this true? The reason why I ask is because my last tune was done on 91 and I plan on getting a 100 octane tune. Will 9 points make that big of a difference?

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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
If this car is indeed making that power, it is likely the most powerful E55 in the USA. To make almost 600rwhp on a dyno dynamics is simply insane. The fact that he runs 100 octane and has a tune for it slightly compromises how comparable these numbers are to 99% of the other E55s that run 93 octane tunes - but in any event, 578rwhp on DD is just ridiculous. Tell him to hit the drag strip, now.

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Haha....is that it Marcus? What happened to playing devils advocate with high reading numbers on a DD? Just messing with you M...j/k!
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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Always been in the remedial section with regard to dynamometer readings. Seems mighty stout though.
Get that beast on the ‘strip pronto for some trap speeds – alongside chiromikey?! – and share its results.

Good going hooleyboy and MBH. :y
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 02:14 AM
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578.5 HP adjusted for 22% (proper drivetrain loss for DD) = 742 HP... absolutely absurd to say the least . Amazing numbers, that has to be the most powerful one in the country.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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wow

amazong numbers

in UAE we have 98

so it is close to 100, the powers can come crazy here

but

i really need to tune my car.

our only enemy here is the hot weather >< in summer of course.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AMS Performance
578.5 HP adjusted for 22% (proper drivetrain loss for DD) = 742 HP... absolutely absurd to say the least . Amazing numbers, that has to be the most powerful one in the country.

Isn't 22% a bit too high, I thought many used 18% for the MB 5-Speed auto and other auto calculations when going from RWHP to Crank hp. Then again I love to hear that the correct number is 22% because many tuners used 20-22% in calculations but many use the 18% to be a bit conservative. This car's dyno numbers are better than some chipped 600s, Treynor's chipped S600 did 525rwhp and 643rwtq.

This E55 made 54 more rwhp and what looks like another 10-20rwtq or so more than Treynor's S600, add that plus a lighter car and shouldn't this mean an E55 that should do high 10s on all boost once he launches good?

GIVE THE MAN SLICKS, A GOOD TRACK AND HIS RACE GAS! Give him a Vbox too, I would love to see an E55 do a 60-130mph run as I've never came across any data for any AMG cars for that test.

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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by E55AMGFan
Isn't 22% a bit too high, I thought many used 18% for the MB 5-Speed auto and other auto calculations when going from RWHP to Crank hp. Then again I love to hear that the correct number is 22% because many tuners used 20-22% in calculations but many use the 18% to be a bit conservative. This car's dyno numbers are better than some chipped 600s, Treynor's chipped S600 did 525rwhp and 643rwtq.

This E55 made 54 more rwhp and what looks like another 10-20rwtq or so more than Treynor's S600, add that plus a lighter car and shouldn't this mean an E55 that should do high 10s on all boost once he launches good?

GIVE THE MAN SLICKS, A GOOD TRACK AND HIS RACE GAS! Give him a Vbox too, I would love to see an E55 do a 60-130mph run as I've never came across any data for any AMG cars for that test.
the 22% is roughly used for dyno dynamics because they typically read 10% lower than dynojets. regardless, it's still just a dyno number so take it for what it is...even though this particular dyno is definitely a tough dyno!
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
the 22% is roughly used for dyno dynamics because they typically read 10% lower than dynojets. regardless, it's still just a dyno number so take it for what it is...even though this particular dyno is definitely a tough dyno!

Ahh ok, I know that and just forgot about the comparison between dyno dynamics and dynojet. I should of thought he meant that with DD, I feel foolish now...lol.
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Amazing Dyno #'s, congrats to Renntech and MBH for this beast's performance.

Out of curiosity, was the DD in "shootout mode" for this run?
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Originally Posted by bassn_07
Awesome numbers.... It seems like more and more people are conquering the low reading dyno's!!!! I think it's a great sign that most tuners are starting to really understand our cars and what makes power. My car isn't quite the monster that you guys are producing but either way I'm glad things are moving in a positive direction. Once again great job and keep up the good work.

I hear that tuning with a 100 octane makes a huge difference, is this true? The reason why I ask is because my last tune was done on 91 and I plan on getting a 100 octane tune. Will 9 points make that big of a difference?
Yes, tuning for 100oct works every time (at least that I've seen) the tunes on 91 west coast gas has a motor octane of like 86 or much less than the 91. Good 100oct fuels can have a motor octane of 100. With a good race fuel you are actually getting what you pay for.
FWIW: I'm no gas guru. however this loss of octane from getting it at the pump to the time it explodes in your cylinder has be explained to be by a few gas distributors.

Yeah so, tuning for race fule you can add a bunch of timing and stuff and still be safe. Due to 100oct having much less of a chance of detonating over standard 91oct. Its power you can feel

I'd say conservative results would be about 20whp and depending on your mods... more. Sometimes you can get alot more.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Amazing Dyno #'s, congrats to Renntech and MBH for this beast's performance.

Out of curiosity, was the DD in "shootout mode" for this run?
I honestly have no idea.
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Originally Posted by Ali_E55
wow

amazong numbers

in UAE we have 98

so it is close to 100, the powers can come crazy here

Ali,

Its not actually a higher octane, its merely a different octane reading MON vs RON. Overseas "98" octane equals USA "93" octane, you still have to move up 7 octane numbers to achieve true 100 octane (so I guess for you it would be 105 octane).

E55amgfan,

22% is the correction factor for Front engine, RWD auto on the dyno dynamics dynos and from testing its usually within 5HP of actual crank numbers using that correction factor on bone stock AMG cars.
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