How is everyone running under 11.5`s without having roll cage and other requirements to run under 11.5? All NHRA certified tracks will kick you right
off.

Kind of hard to run your best, when you only get one shot at it..lol

Are a lot of these sub 11.5 times coming from non sanctioned tracks?

What is the trick??

PS, I have put roll cages in modern street cars before but drawing the line on my CL..lol

 

for me it's private events. otherwise, like you said...you only get one shot.

 

+1

 

lol this is funny! next thing you know we are going to have a roll cage group buy!

 

We have a fantastic non-sanctioned track here (Byron Dragway) which is where I ran the 11.50 with my SL. Didn't even have my helmet on.

-m

 

+2

 

as everyone has said private events is how we get away with it....

 

I thought it was just in the 10's for a cage? Never said anything to me, but im not quite to 11.5 either

 

Here is a list of rules that we have to follow at ORP in Indianapolis. This is an NHRA drag strip:

THE RACE DIRECTOR’S DECISION IS FINAL!
The following are requirements for street legal vehicles:
1. The vehicle must be STREET LEGAL, which means registered, insured, and drivable on the street.
2. NO RACE CARS!!
3. Shorts are NOT PERMITTED when racing and a shirt with sleeves is required to race.
4. Seat belts must be properly mounted.
5. All windows must be present and in good shape and rolled up fully when racing. (no cracks)
6. All automatic transmissions must have operational neutral safety switches.
7. Doors handles operational inside & out.
8. Battery cannot be in driver’s compartment and the battery must have 3/8 bolts to hold it in place.
9. Batteries that are relocated in the trunk must have external cut off switch to the rear of the vehicle labeled "CUT OFF."
10. Radiator must have proper overflow catch tank.
11. Tires must be in good condition.
12. Carburetor must be covered: if there is no hood, live fan must be removed but an electric fan is OK.
13. Carburetor must have “two” return springs installed.
14. Rear seat must be installed or sheet metal covering or trunk bulkhead must be installed.
15. Convertibles must run with top up and driver MUST have a full face helmet meeting the SNELL k98, 2000 or 2005 rating.
16. All vehicles must have at least one working taillight.
17. All hubcaps and trim rings must be removed.
18. All drivers running vehicles 13.99 or quicker MUST have a full face helmet meeting the SNELL k98, 2000 or 2005 rating.
19. Slicks are allowed as long as they are DOT approved.
20. NO PASSENGERS ARE PERMITTED!
21. If you run quicker than 9.99 seconds you must have an NHRA license.

 

don't have the rules in front of me but iirc, roll cage is required at 10.99 and roll bar at 11.49. aside from et, there are also speed restriction/requirements.

 

If you can catch Sacto on a "prep'd" day, it's the dream track.

Old dude with a cigar smoking literally says, "Howdy, what ya think you'll run"

You tell um hopefully 12's and off you go. I was running 11.4 with a long sleeve shirt and helmet and noone cared.

I am sure if one of us actually got into lower 10's, maybe they would raise an eyebrow but honestly it's pretty much a free for all.

Just my few times being there.

Unprepped, it's pretty much better traction on the street though...pretty rough.

 

Well, we certainly don't have these easily

 

the safety switch is built into our trans (we can't start the car if it's in gear) and our batteries are not RElocated in the trunk, they're located there from the factory.

 

private events for me as well...plus i dont have the patients to sit around and watch civics breakdown all night during reg racing nights

 

Did you get the name Juice from making people spit it all over their keyboard? As i just did when I read that with a mouthful of grapefruit juice.

 

It sucks having to have a cage. there are cars coming out of the box that run very fast times.

When ever I'm at the track its the old cars that get in trouble. They break and spill stuff on the track. Its rare you see newer cars doing that. I wont line up with a Grand National or any car that has a C-clip rear end. To me that way more dangerous than no cage.

I almost got taken out my a Grand National in my 55. It shot the whole axle and wheel across the track. Lucky me I got a rare holeshot and avoided that mess.

Any event the rules need to change. We are running huge multi piston brakes vented rotors, good independent suspension. Not to mention cars tested in wind tunnels, safety impact tested. The safety features on newer cars is much greater than the garage built sub 11.5 cars that break on the track all the time.

I would like to see a Hans device coming into play, and exceptions made to newer cars with no cage.

Let face it, people like to see newer cars zip down the track. They will never get the fast, well built cars, to draw in the test n tune night younger crowd. As long they keep the rules the same.

People are less apt to cage their newer car. So.. they move on to an older car that they dont mind gutting and caging. Problem with that is the old car are the ones that break more often then newer one... sucks because you got to wait an hour for them to clean the track.

 

They rarely give the CL a second look. You should be fine. I just act dumb and tell them "there is absolutely NO WAY my car just ran that time." "IMPOSSIBLE!" Your timing system is totally shot."
They usually let you go again.

 

I gotta try that!

 

hell yeah! Also when you go thru tech just tell them you just got the car and just want to test it out. Worked for me with couple different cars. I once ran 11.01 without my helmet and all they said was get a helmet next time.

 

4:10 ROLL BARS
Mandatory in all cars running 11.49 or quicker, or per Class
Requirements. All roll bars must be within 6 inches of the rear
or side of the driver’s head, extend in height at least 3 inches
above the driver’s helmet with driver in normal driving position,
and be at least as wide as the driver’s shoulders or within 1
inch of the driver’s door. Roll bar must be adequately supported
or cross-braced to prevent forward or lateral collapse. Rear
braces must be of the same diameter and wall thickness as the
roll bar and intersect with the roll bar at a point not more than 5
inches from the top of the roll bar. Crossbar and rear braces
must be welded to main hoop. Sidebar must be included on
driver’s side and must pass the driver at a point midway
between the shoulder and elbow. Swing-out sidebar permitted.
All roll bars must have in their construction a cross bar for seat
bracing and as the shoulder-harness attachment point; cross
bar must be installed no more than 4 inches below, and not
above, the driver’s shoulders or to side bar. All vehicles with
OEM frame (i.e., pickup truck where body bolts to framerails)
must have roll bar welded or bolted to frame. Installation of frame connectors on unibody cars does not constitute a frame;
therefore, it is not necessary to have the roll bar attached to the
frame. Unibody cars with stock floor and firewall (wheeltubs
permitted) may attach roll bar with 6-inch x 6-inch x .125-inch
steel plates on top and bottom of floor bolted together with at
least four 3/8-inch bolts and nuts, or weld main hoop to rocker
sill area with .125-inch reinforcing plates, with plates welded
completely. All 4130 chrome moly tube welding must be done by
approved TIG heliarc process; mild steel welding must be done
by approved MIG wire feed or approved TIG heliarc process.
Welding must be free of slag and porosity. Any grinding of
welds prohibited. See illustration. Roll bar must be padded
anywhere driver’s helmet may contact it while in driving
position. Adequate padding must have minimum 1/4-inch
compression or meet SFI Spec 45.1.


4:11 ROLL CAGE
Mandatory in all cars running quicker than 10.99 seconds or faster
than 135 mph, or per Class Requirements. Cars with unaltered
firewall, floor, and body (from firewall rearward, wheeltubs
permitted) running between 10.00 and 10.99, roll bar permitted in
place of roll cage, or per Class Requirements.
All cage structures must be designed in an attempt to protect
the driver from any angle, 360 degrees. All 4130 chrome moly
(CM) tube welding must be done by approved TIG heliarc
process; mild steel (MS) tube welding must be approved MIG
wire feed or TIG heliarc process. Welding must be free of slag
and porosity. Any grinding of welds prohibited. Additionally, roll
cage must be padded anywhere the driver’s helmet may contact
it while in the driving position

 

I forgot my helmet once and thought I'd be funny and make a pass without while a friend was bringing mine. After I got done I thought they were going to escort me off the track because obviously my car ran under 13.99. The next run they radioed ahead and made sure I was wearing one before I did a burn out

 

You all forgot driveshaft loops.

 

i thought i was going to get kicked out that day i got into the lower 11s but i guess they didnt seem to care. people were more curious as to what car it was and what was under the hood.

at my local track they did cut me off one time because they said my car was too loud.
i guess it got too late or something.

 

+3

 

Indy seems like fun...