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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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When my SL55's IC pump went bad it didn't kill the supercharger fully. It was down about 80rwhp. Once the IAT's rise above 150 the ECU takes timing away. The blower won't shut off until well over IAT temps of 200 degree's.

My car is bone stock and ran 106mph in the 1/4 with the failing pump and then ran 113mph with a new one installed.

That E55 in the first vid's should be running anywhere from 113-116mph stock in the 1/4 with a healthy pump.
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Well if you are finally gonna drop your shorts you might as well tell them about your Meth injection too? You do have that right?

Also who wrote the book on the stage process? Isnt ECU/pulley 1, headers 2, throttle body 3, cooling 4 (or cooling 3, TB 4), Cams 5?? Im just asking since this whole stage thing ever has been truly broken down.
Meth Injection Finally drop my shorts? Yer askin me if I have it? You know better than most of the guys here that I have it. Yer one of the few guys here that have seen my car since day 1. You make it sound like I'm trying to hide something. I never tried to hide the fact that I have it...I don't care to put meth as one of my mods. Almost everyone knows about it. Well everyone that knows me, knows about it. When people ask me what I have, I tell them it's there. Plus, I only use that stuff at the track anyways.

Yer right...the book on stages is different per tuner but I'm just going with what I know. Regardless, I don't think any tuner will have me at a stage 5 with my mods?

We need to run soon. I wanna compare...bring the TT or the GTR. I want to play with both of them

Originally Posted by chiromikey
look out alan...someone's coming to play!
A slow car like mine needs it to play in the league of Mikey and Alan and a few others!

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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BenzoBoi
Meth Injection Finally drop my shorts? Yer askin me if I have it? You know better than most of the guys here that I have it. Yer one of the few guys here that have seen my car since day 1. You make it sound like I'm trying to hide something. I never tried to hide the fact that I have it...I don't care to put meth as one of my mods. Almost everyone knows about it. Well everyone that knows me, knows about it. When people ask me what I have, I tell them it's there. Plus, I only use that stuff at the track anyways.

Yer right...the book on stages is different per tuner but I'm just going with what I know. Regardless, I don't think any tuner will have me at a stage 5 with my mods?

We need to run soon. I wanna compare...bring the TT or the GTR. I want to play with both of them



A slow car like mine needs it to play in the league of Mikey and Alan and a few others!

Well if you can get down to the Mexico flats at 6am then we will be good to go.....

Meth blah blah blah???? How much did you gain from that injection on those dyno sheets? I would say its quite an important mod.

Sorry if you felt like I was calling you out- not my intention but I saw your post about stage 3 and your car is better than that
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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No, you don't get it and I'm not interested in what you think.
You need to go back through your old post when you were sticky 1,2,3,4,5 I was actually trying to help you back then because you were cool with Alan. You got a beef with Max then you need to keep it that way.
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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oh and Jozef, I know you're still reading this, but I'm going to try to be a good moderator in your eyes and
Phil, this thread is too good to be closed because Sticky, Adhesive, etc so I have cleared up the OT comments and its open for pertinent discussions. Any personal attacks or OT comments about the past will lead to more banning.
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Max, no more quotes about your internet fight here please. I deleted the post.
OK Vic. I'm holstering my pistols now.
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Max, no more quotes about your internet fight here please. I deleted the post.


I would love to go up against a new stock CTS-V from a dig. I believe I can beat it by a couple of tenths to 120 maybe further?? from a 30mph that would be interesting
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I would love to go up against a new stock CTS-V from a dig. I believe I can beat it by a couple of tenths to 120 maybe further?? from a 30mph that would be interesting
The M3 DCT from a dig is quite nice too---- the launch is strong and the shifts are so fast. The DCT in the M3 feels like powershifting- you can literally feel the surge as the gears bang out. But the GT-R doesnt carry the powershift feel probably cause the whole experience is just power LOL
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I think what he meant was... Stop!! Hammer time!! *starts playing the MC Hammer song Can't Touch This* LOL
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I think what he meant was... Stop!! Hammer time!! *starts playing the MC Hammer song Can't Touch This* LOL




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Nothing against you Max I was actually in a friendly way imitating Vic All of us stock guys have to stick together!
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic55
The M3 DCT from a dig is quite nice too---- the launch is strong and the shifts are so fast. The DCT in the M3 feels like powershifting- you can literally feel the surge as the gears bang out. But the GT-R doesnt carry the powershift feel probably cause the whole experience is just power LOL
Vic that M3 in the video, where would it rank on the scale of stages for the M3?
Old Oct 27, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Max! I really hope you end up running the guy and beating him, either on track or in Mexico! I really hate people who talk a lot of ****...

Vic, is your GTR stock? Also, did you ever consider putting a Turbo on the ISF?
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Vic that M3 in the video, where would it rank on the scale of stages for the M3?
Good question, never heard of stages for an E9X M3 and most, if not all owners dont make that classification on the M3 boards unless its SC'd. Id say probably stage II: ECU with pulley and exhaust mods but thats really it. The RPI scoops and air filters dont do much if anything. There is not much you can do to that car unless you plant a blower on it. But the gains from changing the cats to HFC's or removing them are pretty good. The stock headers are quite excellent and designed perfectly for the car so thank god thats not a necessary mod.


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Max! I really hope you end up running the guy and beating him, either on track or in Mexico! I really hate people who talk a lot of ****...

Vic, is your GTR stock? Also, did you ever consider putting a Turbo on the ISF?
The GTR is not stock: HKS GT570, Cobb Tune, 800cc injectors, Titek Ti Exhaust.

Turbo on the IS-F, its not my car to drive on a daily basis so no. The better half parades it to her work and back. She already is in trouble speeding in that car so it will remain stock
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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[quote=Vic55;3783845]The M3 DCT from a dig is quite nice too---- the launch is strong and the shifts are so fast.

^^^ Specially with launch control! felt sorry for the tyres after a 20 min thrashing! Had to have a go in one with the DCT box after all the hype!! Gearbox is very good, Its like DSG on VW.. Ferrari on the California and Scuderia/16M.

I still this the standard car lacks real grunt.. those mods must really wake it up!

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Vic that M3 in the video, where would it rank on the scale of stages for the M3?
Every bolt on but the muffler.
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Nothing against you Max I was actually in a friendly way imitating Vic All of us stock guys have to stick together!
Gotcha.

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Max! I really hope you end up running the guy and beating him, either on track or in Mexico! I really hate people who talk a lot of ****...
LOL Thanks. Stinky is a joke. Don't worry about him. He already lost before, I really have nothing to gain. Besides, it's in the past and should stay that way. I know what you mean though. Some people have major issues.

Anyways back on topic. This thread is about drew's M3 and the videos. Full exhaust work, intake, deleting the cats, ram air scoops, intake, pulley's and custom tune seems to be as much as you can do to that car currently without going into the motor and doing something more radical. Maybe drew can chime in since he is the expert.

BTW Drew, is your car on tuned on race gas or pump gas?
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Anyways back on topic. This thread is about drew's M3 and the videos. Full exhaust work, intake, deleting the cats, ram air scoops, intake, pulley's and custom tune seems to be as much as you can do to that car currently without going into the motor and doing something more radical. Maybe drew can chime in since he is the expert.

BTW Drew, is your car on tuned on race gas or pump gas?
I'm running HFC's and the stock muffler, I don't think catless does much, and a custom tune probably doesn't do much either, I'm on 91 pump, race gas made no power on the dyno.

I think a muffler might help a bit with some power and WR, but not much. I may do that, some WR and see how it does. I trapped 118 on the Vbox at 500', full weight, so it might have a 120 trap in perfect conditions with some WR, but not sure.

I'd like to run you or another E55 just to see Bro, cause we seem to be trapping the in the same range, but who knows, side by side runs say more IMHO.
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Chill out Murtaza!

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How the **** did I put words into your mouth, you said no non-stroker M could keep up with a properly modded E55...Sun's car is very properly modded and I kept up...STOCK. Unless you are saying my race with Sun never happened you need to revise your bs statement...

That video is still confusing to me but I digress...talk is cheap, lets get a highly modded E55 in on our runs so we can put this argument to rest. We have plenty of M guys who want to run, where is team AMG
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Calm down! Mikey is just trying to clarify his statement. If you don't believe him, I suggest you trek out to Arizona and get ready for a whipping cause Mikey has the car to spank you.

Just chill out man!

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Well I can't speak for a video that doesn't even show what mods each car has... for all I know that M5 was in P400. I'm not making an excuse for it but honestly in my experience I haven't seen an E55 run so strong up top vs the M5 or M6.

I don't like supposition so I'll speak for my experience: my bone stock M6 running a Stage 5 E55 and keeping neck to neck till 130 (and it was evident that I would have started pulling if it had continued further). That shouldn't have happened but gearing, the high revving platform and aero saved me. The M5 isn't that much slower than the M6 so yeah that video you posted makes no sense to me.

Sorry if I sound harsh, I don't mean it that way.
Hey Alex, by chance have you ever ran your car in the 1/4 mile or are most of your runs done in Mexico? I know you have a strong running M6 and I'm curious to know how you stack up against the highly modded M6's on Dragtimes. I believe the quickest one is listed at 11.8xx at 121 and has every mod available.

Me personally, I've never ran a M5 or M6 in the 1/4 mile or in Mexico. I've been trying to find one here in Norcal but it seems close to impossible. The only reference I have is my buddies 996 TT with a tune and straight pipes, he said he beat a modded M6 by a few lengths. When I raced the 996TT from 60-170 I had him by more then a few car lengths...I would guess. He's putting down somewhere in the range of 450 rwhp to the ground. It's funny, we both thought I would get him up to 120 or so with him taking over at higher speeds. This wasn't the case, my car kept on pulling at the higher speeds. Either way I'm supposed to line up with a GT-2 and a promo 700 and we'll see how I do. I'm probably going to get my *** cleaned by the promo but it's all in good fun . Here's that video of my friends 996TT and modded M6.

http://www.revver.com/video/1184557/good-times/

The next time I'm in LA, in time permits, we'll definitely hookup and see how we compare. I you took Sun on I'm sure it will be a good race...we shall see.


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