Star Diagnostic How To DIY with lots o pics
07-26-2016, 02:52 AM
#1026
Continuing on 3 AC circuit testing
Press f1 or esc to get up to the ACC main menu again
Choose the Refridgerant Circuit Test
Validate all prerequisite's have been met
Test system
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...3Q5ggG4sZP4JUY
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...pZoCVmhYXubs0I
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...2sBz2GPU4vhfaS
So I have a AC gauge set, recovery tank system, vacuum pump,r134a about 3lbs,new OEM dryer, OEM factory expansion valve (yea the aluminum block I wasted $50 bucks on that only prolly needs orings) OEM Denso AC Compressor. I will do the work and properly vacuum charge the system. I will add the required oil amount to the compressor per Denso/MB spec and report back once the install is complete and she is or is not blowing me cold again.
Choose the Refridgerant Circuit Test
Validate all prerequisite's have been met
Test system
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...3Q5ggG4sZP4JUY
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...pZoCVmhYXubs0I
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/sh...2sBz2GPU4vhfaS
So I have a AC gauge set, recovery tank system, vacuum pump,r134a about 3lbs,new OEM dryer, OEM factory expansion valve (yea the aluminum block I wasted $50 bucks on that only prolly needs orings) OEM Denso AC Compressor. I will do the work and properly vacuum charge the system. I will add the required oil amount to the compressor per Denso/MB spec and report back once the install is complete and she is or is not blowing me cold again.
07-26-2016, 03:15 AM
#1027
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Recommend you start your own thread on this. This is not an AC thread ... Go back to basics for AC ...
1. Vacuum down your system
2. Check it holds vacuum for 20+ minutes with gauges
3. Fill with R134a with AC on
4 watch the gauges and make sure the pressure is in range. When the right amount of R134a is reached the compressor will kick on and the pressure gauges will cycle up and down as the compressors kicks on and off.
Some AC compressors come pre-oiled so sometimes no need to add ... Just check with whomever you bought the compressor from
Done this on multiple cars with no issues.
1. Vacuum down your system
2. Check it holds vacuum for 20+ minutes with gauges
3. Fill with R134a with AC on
4 watch the gauges and make sure the pressure is in range. When the right amount of R134a is reached the compressor will kick on and the pressure gauges will cycle up and down as the compressors kicks on and off.
Some AC compressors come pre-oiled so sometimes no need to add ... Just check with whomever you bought the compressor from
Done this on multiple cars with no issues.
Last edited by turbo97se; 07-26-2016 at 03:18 AM.
07-26-2016, 11:18 AM
#1028
Sorry for thread jack
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ce-needed.html
thanks for confirming I am overthinking the issue as I pretty much thought.
The compressor intermittently turning on was throwing me off in a big way. It was probably just eating itself alive at the time.
07-28-2016, 11:18 AM
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07-29-2016, 12:11 PM
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How to calibrate Airmatic Suspension
A brief overview of calibrating the suspension on my W211 using an inclinometer app on my smart phone in lieu of a Romess inclinometer. I did not have a photo of calibrating the front suspension, only a photo of calibrating the rear. In the photo showing the rear voltage value at 2.34 volts, I was under the car confirming the rear axles were at a -1.2 degrees. The original value was close to 3 volts with the rear of the car 1 1/2" lower and the rear axles were measuring at a -2.8 degrees.
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08-13-2016, 03:33 PM
#1034
Care to show me how to execute that SIM program for DAS? There is no icon on the desktop and I'm not sure if it would be in a folder?
I need to know where the throttle body adaption/reset is and how to turn on the intercooler pump for testing on the low charge cooling circuit for a SL65.
08-18-2016, 01:21 AM
#1035
Care to show me how to execute that SIM program for DAS? There is no icon on the desktop and I'm not sure if it would be in a folder?
I need to know where the throttle body adaption/reset is and how to turn on the intercooler pump for testing on the low charge cooling circuit for a SL65.
It's just a Windows machine, you are searching for a program.
Bottom left of Screen
Start
Find or Search
Select files or folders
"DAS SIM" without quotes in the field should bring it up if it is on the system. Play all you want and find what you need and teach your self is the point...your in simulation mode self learning.
I am going to see if I can locate what you are hunting for
Last edited by BoostedAero; 08-18-2016 at 02:12 AM.
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Vmax_ (11-01-2023)
08-18-2016, 01:48 AM
#1036
My simdas.exe under the path F:\Programme\DAS\bin
The path in your system may vary. My build DVD12/2015 C3 with Dev mode
BBird is spot on with his info, sure he will chime in and clarify when he has time. So long as he doesn't feel like he is playing too much of a babysitter lol
Last edited by BoostedAero; 08-18-2016 at 02:06 AM.
09-02-2016, 02:18 PM
#1037
Is it possible to check if the high/low fuel pumps are operating correctly and at the right pressure or PSI with Star/DAS? Or is this something that needs to be done with a mechanical gauge?
09-21-2016, 02:23 PM
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Hoping to get some help:
Got the Xentry printout and the main odometer reading and the First/Last occurrence reading for Control unit 'Fuel Pump' are way off. Is this an indication of a potential rollback?
Got the Xentry printout and the main odometer reading and the First/Last occurrence reading for Control unit 'Fuel Pump' are way off. Is this an indication of a potential rollback?
09-21-2016, 03:10 PM
#1039
If your odometer reads let's say 100.000 miles and first occurrence was after the 100.000 then yes.
09-23-2016, 05:13 AM
#1040
mbstarshop change this address to www.mbstartool.com
While searching for a fix for another member I have come across a blog dedicated to MB Star and it has 8 pages of how to's images and tutorials, as well as common problems with star units and how to go about fixing/updating them etc
Far too much info for me to copy and paste here so here is the link
Technical - http://blog.mbstartool.com/category/...upport/page/3/
Software - http://blog.mbstartool.com/category/...tware-service/
The number 3 in the URL is the page number (last page at time of posting this is page 8), you can just change that to say 5 or 6 etc if you don't want to navigate through the "older posts" - "newer posts"
Around page 6-5 downwards it starts getting into tweaks for example a few are
gas tank mod
fan mod
lowering
seatbelt chime
tv/dvd while driving
SBC
Speed Limiter
Transmission
Telephone
TPMS
How to Chip your Multiplexer
the list goes on, it's a good read
* Mods if the link is not allowed on this site please remove this post
There seems to be quite a few STAR posts popping up so I hope this helps
Far too much info for me to copy and paste here so here is the link
Technical - http://blog.mbstartool.com/category/...upport/page/3/
Software - http://blog.mbstartool.com/category/...tware-service/
The number 3 in the URL is the page number (last page at time of posting this is page 8), you can just change that to say 5 or 6 etc if you don't want to navigate through the "older posts" - "newer posts"
Around page 6-5 downwards it starts getting into tweaks for example a few are
gas tank mod
fan mod
lowering
seatbelt chime
tv/dvd while driving
SBC
Speed Limiter
Transmission
Telephone
TPMS
How to Chip your Multiplexer
the list goes on, it's a good read
* Mods if the link is not allowed on this site please remove this post
There seems to be quite a few STAR posts popping up so I hope this helps
10-03-2016, 09:54 AM
#1041
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This thread looks like it derailed from its original purpose. I've been very familiar with BMW's INPA/NCS Expert for years with my V12s, and over the last year I've learned quite a bit about Mercedes Xentry. There's nothing magical about it, or developer mode if you read German but you can screw things up severely. You rarely, if ever, need to go into developer mode to do most "mods" if you have offline programming enabled. I run a real STAR C4, but there's numerous chinese companies that sell multiplexors of quality. Read reviews. Most of the chipsets or boards used are manufacturered in china anyway, even in the real Mercedes systems.
Mack is helpful in some respects to people ... I've talked to him on other forums attempting to diagnosis certain issues, and he and I are on the same technical forum for Xentry which I assume is where most of his information comes from. The problem is Mack keeps a lot of information close to the vest, likely because he makes a business out of it, which is contrary to the purpose of these forums. I remember him asking me for an 06 firmware version for NTG1 which I sent, then not responding when I asked him for his "08" version he supposedly received from his "friend" at Harman/Becker... when in reality it came from MHH, and where I received mine from in the same thread he downloaded it.
Selling Xentry and multiplexors is very illegal though, by the way. You shouldn't **** people off when you're doing that on a very public forum.
But since Mack is being a tool in this latest series of posts, and I'm relatively new here vs Benzworld, I'm happy to tell anyone how to do the following mods through Xentry for free. Just PM me.
When I get the chance, I'll do write ups by section. It's not magic. It's just knowledge. Share it.
E-Class W211 / CLS W219
Air Conditioning:
– Turning on the HVAC to show the fan speed when on Auto
– Enable MAX COOL (Thermotronic only) in display
– Enable RECIRC on at speeds lower than 30 km/h / 8 mph
– Switch to Hot Country for faster cooling
– Enable “Hot Country” Level 2 for more cold air faster
– Change to allow fan speed adjustment on defrost
– Change amount of basic air circulation
– Change setting of outer air circulation position flaps
– Enable AC-OFF setting in combination with defrost and/or auto. Defrost off = AC Off (Default defrost off = AC On)
– Set stationary heater setting to “custom”
– Air circulation without auto switch off
Cluster Instrument:
– Enable fuel tank capacity in cluster display
– Date and time in additional display page
– Activation of navigation and telephone menu after retrofit
– Deactivation seat belt beep and/or seat belt symbol
– Deactivation seat belt pictogram in display
– Activation trailer loss warning
– Change distance co-efficient after changed tire size
– Activation diesel pre-glow pictogram on diesel engine vehicle
– Deactivation of “Please refill” pictogram on facelift models when reaching 1/2 of tank reserve
– Deactivation of engine control lamp
– Activation of engine fault pictogram
– Activation/Deactivation of battery control unit warning pictogram (comfort function level 1)
– Activation/Deactivation pictogram “Power Lock Emergency Unlock Active” after accident/rollover
– Deactivation of particle filter (Diesel vehicles only)
– Activation “Curvmatic” (Navigation/CI tells you verbally/visible that you’re approaching a curve too fast)
– Audio Menu (Station or Frequency change via steering wheel up/down button)
– Activation of “Fold-in Mirror” menu on MY2005 vehicles
– Adjusting of fuel consumption display
– Deactivation “Remove Key” pictogram and/or beep
– Deactivation “Switch Lights Off” pictogram and/or beep
– Deactivation “SOS Warning Message”
– Activation “power spikes pictogram
COMAND NTG1:
– Activation “Curvmatic” (Navigation/CI tells you verbally/visible that you’re approaching a curve too fast)
– Activation of DVD/TV video in motion (ECE COMAND APS NTG1 only)
– Change “Follow up time” of auto shut off time
– AMG boot up logo
– Activation of navigation after retrofit
– Activation of telephone after retrofit
– Software update SW 28/08
Anti-Theft-Alarm:
– Activation after retrofit
– Change of country settings
– Change volume alarm buzzer
– Change volume lock/unlock buzzer
– Change count of beeps when locking
– Change count of beeps when unlocking
– Change count of beeps when locked but one door is incorrectly closed
– Deactivation of interior motion sensor when sunroof closes automatically when it rains
AIRmatic:
– Lowering
– Calibrating if car stands cricket
Lighting:
– Activation of both rear fog lights
– Activation of cornering lights (MY2004 and newer only)
– Change of turn-on instant of low beam at dawn
– Change brightness of foot well lights during driving (Elegance and Avantgarde only)
Sunroof and Doors:
– Activation of memory feature sunroof
– Activation “Sunroof closes automatically when it rains”
– Activation of “Close windows and sunroof” with infrared key
– Recalibration jam guard sunroof
Engine:
– Deactivation of catalytic converter when sports catalytic converter is put in
– Deactivation of second catalytic converter lambda sensor when sports catalytic converter is put in
– Reset of “Mass Average Adaptation Data” on OM642 engines (after Air Filter Replacement)
– Initializing of throttle valve when changed
– Increase MAX SPEED to 160 mph (AMG only)
Miscellaneous:
– Activation of Tire Pressure Loss Warning
– Activation of Euro spec headlights/taillights turn on when unlocking car
– Change volume of Parktronic
– Change interval of headlight cleaning system
– Activation of seat ventilation “Summer Opening” (driver and passenger)
– Recalibration of rain sensor
– Reset SBC brake counter
ESP/Brake:
– Enable SBC-S and SBC-H
AMG Only:
– Designo Sound: Deeper, more aggressive sound from your AMG Engine and Exhaust System
Mack is helpful in some respects to people ... I've talked to him on other forums attempting to diagnosis certain issues, and he and I are on the same technical forum for Xentry which I assume is where most of his information comes from. The problem is Mack keeps a lot of information close to the vest, likely because he makes a business out of it, which is contrary to the purpose of these forums. I remember him asking me for an 06 firmware version for NTG1 which I sent, then not responding when I asked him for his "08" version he supposedly received from his "friend" at Harman/Becker... when in reality it came from MHH, and where I received mine from in the same thread he downloaded it.
Selling Xentry and multiplexors is very illegal though, by the way. You shouldn't **** people off when you're doing that on a very public forum.
But since Mack is being a tool in this latest series of posts, and I'm relatively new here vs Benzworld, I'm happy to tell anyone how to do the following mods through Xentry for free. Just PM me.
When I get the chance, I'll do write ups by section. It's not magic. It's just knowledge. Share it.
E-Class W211 / CLS W219
Air Conditioning:
– Turning on the HVAC to show the fan speed when on Auto
– Enable MAX COOL (Thermotronic only) in display
– Enable RECIRC on at speeds lower than 30 km/h / 8 mph
– Switch to Hot Country for faster cooling
– Enable “Hot Country” Level 2 for more cold air faster
– Change to allow fan speed adjustment on defrost
– Change amount of basic air circulation
– Change setting of outer air circulation position flaps
– Enable AC-OFF setting in combination with defrost and/or auto. Defrost off = AC Off (Default defrost off = AC On)
– Set stationary heater setting to “custom”
– Air circulation without auto switch off
Cluster Instrument:
– Enable fuel tank capacity in cluster display
– Date and time in additional display page
– Activation of navigation and telephone menu after retrofit
– Deactivation seat belt beep and/or seat belt symbol
– Deactivation seat belt pictogram in display
– Activation trailer loss warning
– Change distance co-efficient after changed tire size
– Activation diesel pre-glow pictogram on diesel engine vehicle
– Deactivation of “Please refill” pictogram on facelift models when reaching 1/2 of tank reserve
– Deactivation of engine control lamp
– Activation of engine fault pictogram
– Activation/Deactivation of battery control unit warning pictogram (comfort function level 1)
– Activation/Deactivation pictogram “Power Lock Emergency Unlock Active” after accident/rollover
– Deactivation of particle filter (Diesel vehicles only)
– Activation “Curvmatic” (Navigation/CI tells you verbally/visible that you’re approaching a curve too fast)
– Audio Menu (Station or Frequency change via steering wheel up/down button)
– Activation of “Fold-in Mirror” menu on MY2005 vehicles
– Adjusting of fuel consumption display
– Deactivation “Remove Key” pictogram and/or beep
– Deactivation “Switch Lights Off” pictogram and/or beep
– Deactivation “SOS Warning Message”
– Activation “power spikes pictogram
COMAND NTG1:
– Activation “Curvmatic” (Navigation/CI tells you verbally/visible that you’re approaching a curve too fast)
– Activation of DVD/TV video in motion (ECE COMAND APS NTG1 only)
– Change “Follow up time” of auto shut off time
– AMG boot up logo
– Activation of navigation after retrofit
– Activation of telephone after retrofit
– Software update SW 28/08
Anti-Theft-Alarm:
– Activation after retrofit
– Change of country settings
– Change volume alarm buzzer
– Change volume lock/unlock buzzer
– Change count of beeps when locking
– Change count of beeps when unlocking
– Change count of beeps when locked but one door is incorrectly closed
– Deactivation of interior motion sensor when sunroof closes automatically when it rains
AIRmatic:
– Lowering
– Calibrating if car stands cricket
Lighting:
– Activation of both rear fog lights
– Activation of cornering lights (MY2004 and newer only)
– Change of turn-on instant of low beam at dawn
– Change brightness of foot well lights during driving (Elegance and Avantgarde only)
Sunroof and Doors:
– Activation of memory feature sunroof
– Activation “Sunroof closes automatically when it rains”
– Activation of “Close windows and sunroof” with infrared key
– Recalibration jam guard sunroof
Engine:
– Deactivation of catalytic converter when sports catalytic converter is put in
– Deactivation of second catalytic converter lambda sensor when sports catalytic converter is put in
– Reset of “Mass Average Adaptation Data” on OM642 engines (after Air Filter Replacement)
– Initializing of throttle valve when changed
– Increase MAX SPEED to 160 mph (AMG only)
Miscellaneous:
– Activation of Tire Pressure Loss Warning
– Activation of Euro spec headlights/taillights turn on when unlocking car
– Change volume of Parktronic
– Change interval of headlight cleaning system
– Activation of seat ventilation “Summer Opening” (driver and passenger)
– Recalibration of rain sensor
– Reset SBC brake counter
ESP/Brake:
– Enable SBC-S and SBC-H
AMG Only:
– Designo Sound: Deeper, more aggressive sound from your AMG Engine and Exhaust System
I would love instructions on how to do some of the things on your list, I have been using Star fpr about 3 years, but a long ways from a pro at it.
I have AMG car and non AMG cars.
10-11-2016, 04:04 PM
#1042
Super Member
Tried using my Star for the first time in 2 years and I'm getting a error message:
DAS License has Expired. Do I need an update? Version 2013. Thanks
DAS License has Expired. Do I need an update? Version 2013. Thanks
10-11-2016, 04:16 PM
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10-20-2016, 10:11 AM
#1044
Super Member
I have a star diagnostic system for sale if anyone is interested. Don't mean to derail lol
https://mbworld.org/forums/engine-pe...stics-kit.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/engine-pe...stics-kit.html
Last edited by c55asleep?; 10-21-2016 at 01:12 PM. Reason: Added link
11-08-2016, 07:24 PM
#1045
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2008 E350 4Matic, 2011 E350 4matic
Can a star system update an NTG4 Comand system? I see a few updates mentioned in a few bulletins but it looks like MB doesn't sell Comand update CD/DVDs like they used to on the W211 and you have to go to the dealer.
11-09-2016, 05:28 AM
#1046
Super Member
I'm super excited! I just purchase a C4 system with dell 6410 laptop. Has ssd, 4gb mem, so it should be quicker than a dell630.
I got it because I want to code my 2009 E350 for factory bi-xenons when I get them. Then I started reading and found more information, VIM, fuel remaining...etc.
But on the basic does one power up the Mux or does it get power from the car? Does the car have to be ON (Engine running) or just 2nd click of the key "ON".
On to things that are turned on: (IS this information correct?)
Remaining Fuel:
VIM Enable:
Brake Flash Emergency:
Show date in cluster:
Do we have a write up of how to disable the seatbelt annoying warning?
One thing I do want to ask is that setting the car to ROW disables the sidemarker lights, but how do you go and turn them back on?
I'm located in VA/DC, so if anyone wants help or to do things via STAR/DAS let me know and I'll help once I get mine in a week.
Thanks,
Nigel
I got it because I want to code my 2009 E350 for factory bi-xenons when I get them. Then I started reading and found more information, VIM, fuel remaining...etc.
But on the basic does one power up the Mux or does it get power from the car? Does the car have to be ON (Engine running) or just 2nd click of the key "ON".
On to things that are turned on: (IS this information correct?)
Remaining Fuel:
Inf & Comm -> Instr. Custer -> Diag. to Plant Spec. -> Control UnitAdapt. -> Variant Coding -> Read Coding and change....
Set TANKINFO in REICHWEITENBILD to ENABLE
Set TANKINFO in REICHWEITENBILD to ENABLE
In Mercedes Star diagnostic MB SD Connect C4 DAS Developer mode :
Audio, Video, Navigation und Telematik ->F3
a screen might pop up with all kind of settings, ignore and press F2
New screen with ESD warning ->F3 COMAND /AUDIO -AUDIO 50 oder COMAND ->F3
Entwicklungsdaten ->F3
Steuergerate-Anpassungen ->F3 Steuergerate-Anpassungen (Variantencoderierung) ->F3
HU Parameter ->F3 scroll down to line: Driving speed is more than 0 kph and
Driving speed is more than 10 kph and BOTH enable them and ->F3 to confirm coding
Now you be able to watch DVD/TV when car is in motion
Audio, Video, Navigation und Telematik ->F3
a screen might pop up with all kind of settings, ignore and press F2
New screen with ESD warning ->F3 COMAND /AUDIO -AUDIO 50 oder COMAND ->F3
Entwicklungsdaten ->F3
Steuergerate-Anpassungen ->F3 Steuergerate-Anpassungen (Variantencoderierung) ->F3
HU Parameter ->F3 scroll down to line: Driving speed is more than 0 kph and
Driving speed is more than 10 kph and BOTH enable them and ->F3 to confirm coding
Now you be able to watch DVD/TV when car is in motion
Control Units -> Body -> Rear SAM -> Dev. Data -> Control Unit Adapt. -> Control Unit Adapt. (Variant Coding)
Scroll to: Parameter Notbremsung, in the submenu you will have two more options: select zugelassen (enable)
Think the first choice is flashing brake and second is hazard lights, enable one or the other or both...
Scroll to: Parameter Notbremsung, in the submenu you will have two more options: select zugelassen (enable)
Think the first choice is flashing brake and second is hazard lights, enable one or the other or both...
Show date in cluster:
Enable Date in the Cluster
Control Units -> Inf. & Comms. -> IC - Instr. cluster -> Diag. to plant spec -> Control unit adapt. -> Control unit adapt. ( Variant coding ) -> Variantkodierung Werkseinstellungen: Set "Datumsanzeige Grundbildebene" to aktiv. (active)
- Then reboot the cluster
Control Units -> Inf. & Comms. -> IC - Instr. cluster -> Diag. to plant spec -> Control unit adapt. -> Control unit adapt. ( Variant coding ) -> Variantkodierung Werkseinstellungen: Set "Datumsanzeige Grundbildebene" to aktiv. (active)
- Then reboot the cluster
Do we have a write up of how to disable the seatbelt annoying warning?
One thing I do want to ask is that setting the car to ROW disables the sidemarker lights, but how do you go and turn them back on?
I'm located in VA/DC, so if anyone wants help or to do things via STAR/DAS let me know and I'll help once I get mine in a week.
Thanks,
Nigel
Last edited by NewShockerGuy; 11-09-2016 at 05:30 AM.
11-10-2016, 03:31 AM
#1047
Do we have a write up of how to disable the seatbelt annoying warning?
One thing I do want to ask is that setting the car to ROW disables the sidemarker lights, but how do you go and turn them back on?
I'm located in VA/DC, so if anyone wants help or to do things via STAR/DAS let me know and I'll help once I get mine in a week.
Thanks,
Nigel
One thing I do want to ask is that setting the car to ROW disables the sidemarker lights, but how do you go and turn them back on?
I'm located in VA/DC, so if anyone wants help or to do things via STAR/DAS let me know and I'll help once I get mine in a week.
Thanks,
Nigel
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11-10-2016, 02:15 PM
#1049
Not blind. It's not just a push of a button. AIRmatic is tied to many control units. Also don't forget to replace headlights and headlight range adjustment system and a few other parts. I was helping on two conversions this year and it's not fun. If you want to convert to save money, it's gonna be more expensive. Just sell and buy a car that has cool springs already.
Don't forget to tell the DMV of the conversion or its no longer legal to operate the vehicle.
Don't forget to tell the DMV of the conversion or its no longer legal to operate the vehicle.
11-17-2016, 11:50 AM
#1050
Super Member
Silly question. I enabled the gallons left in the gas tank. But I can't seem to find where to reboot the cluster? I didn't reboot it but the gallons left in tank showed up. But I would still like to properly do it and know where to reboot it.
Thanks,
-Nigel
Thanks,
-Nigel
