RACE_MX

Just me and friend having a little fun today. Both cars are stock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOEJV_kuE7U

emoving

Wow! That 63 was pulling hard!

Zod

few races very different results....

if u race at a set speed and set gear, you are not suposed to have so many different results

skratch77

first race,63 hits rev limit
second race e55 torque wins for a bit and then the e63s faster tranny shines
3rd race e55 is heat soaked by now

Esh

Filming while driving is a no-no.

PKE55AMG

Thanks for sharing!

I see a V1 connector (at 1:30) but no V1 hooked up? You guys must have a "Get-out-of-Jail-Free" card on hand...?

Hammer Down

What was the clicking noise after each kickdown? It sounds like you were in 2nd gear and then you shifted up 3 or 4 times. If this is what you did you may have confused your TCU on top of some possible heat soak.

AWOL

63 looks stout

edit: Is there any software or anything to quicken the 55 shifts?

LB63

Nice runs. I wouldn't say one car is better than the other (stock v. stock), it's really a driver's race.

When the 6.2 was new the 5.5 would regularly beat it from videos I saw and anecdotal evidence, but now that most of the 6.2s on the road are broken in they are starting to shine

I would like to see a race from 0-100 +

RACE_MX

Not the best comparison, just having some fun. I think this is the first time I've done this in the E55 so probably did some things wrong.

I was filming with my iphone (shame on me ) so yeah I clicked from 2nd to 5th on each start and let the car decide where to shift. The car is confusing.. I'm used to driving SMG (BMW) and if you hit the paddle it shifts, not so with this car? In run 3 the car just hung at the top of 3rd gear @ 120 for an eternity... like it hit the top speed limiter. With 3 back to back runs I'm sure heat takes it's toll on the Kompressor.

E55AMGFan

Good runs Scott, time for a IC Pump and Heat Exchanger upgrade and perhaps a 180mm and tune and that will do wonders.

cahiil55k

Nice races. You'll beat the E63 next time out I can't really tell from your video but it almost sounded like your car was not starting in the best gear for each run (didn't hear the engine high-revving). Also if you were manual shifting, you'll likely lose most races to an E63. Put the shift mode in "S", raise the suspension, then before you start honking, downshift all the way to the lowest possible gear by holding your shifter to the left for a few seconds. Let the car shift itself once the race starts. Lastly, do a "sneaky ECU reset" before your next race.

RACE_MX

lol, what's a "sneaky ECU reset"?

kindafast

Nice vid! What roll were you guys going from?

Even with the heat soak, E63 looks like it is faster. E63 needs to be in the right gear/ right powerband next time.

RACE_MX

around 40 mph, I was starting in second.

AWOL

dont manual shift.

put it in sport. hold the shifter to the left. even at a 60 roll, i go down to second gear. 40 isnt the greatest for an e55, but for the love of god, dont use manual when racing

Twinreds

Funny to see the Recaro Baby seat on the back. I have the same seat on my living room, soon to be installed in my E63

Wish4_e55Wagon

Not wanting to start the e55/e63 debate, but the video illustrates the difference. In stock form, the 63 is race ready all the time but requires $$$ to gain extra power. In stock form the 55 requires specific parameters for a race, but for a few extra $ extra power and performance can be had and walk the 63. Now throw in the future 5.5 TT (has this been confirmed ) and everyone is whole

citylightva

It definitely pulls, and I realized my tranny is smarter than me. I was in M on the first run from 2nd gear and dinged the rev limiter for a super short time, but it does that little bogged shift to 3rd. After that I rolled from second and left the tranny in S. I think it's odd that it will shift around 7200 in S on the 3-4 upshift. Either way, good times...I've wanted to run a stock 55 for a while..!!! See you at the Shop at Starwood...WOot..!!

juicee63

lol, when a 63 looks good in a video the 55 must be broken hahahahah,

Good run fellas, do it again after dialing in the best proceedure and report back :-)

Twinreds

I'm going to duck after I post this, so don't throw any shoes at me....
It's funny how many excuses the thread had generated to justify the fact that the 63 engine is better and more powerful in stock form. Yeah, yeah, you can modify it yaddah yaddah yaddah, but if you cannot believe your own eyes, why believe your imagination? Two different powerplants, period. I still wonder why keep comparing apples to oranges. What I see in the thread is the equivalent to saying that my girlfriend is hotter than yours, I just need to put new silicone *****, a wig, a full facelift and a different personality....

930chas

Nice runs, Scott. Manually shifting the car definitely had to hamper the performance of the e55 in this situation. I know manually shifting mine sucks. I can shift faster in my LR D-90 then the Benz will shift in manual mode.

E55AMGGG04

I don't know about excuses but from my experience there seems to be different results with everyone. Not making excuses but when I first bought my E55 over 2 years ago it had a failing IC pump and I didn't know how to race it.

I raced a M6 first month I bought the car left it on S while M6 was on power band using paddle shifters plus I had a failing IC pump I didn't know about. Well I got beat bad and a LOSE IS A LOSE regardless what shouda happened its what happened that counts.


I've raced a E63 with my E55 and I have beat it since I replaced my IC pump.

If anyone in the NEW YORK area has a stock E63 I'll be more then happy to come to you for a run.

kindafast

Yep! I share the same views. For the money E55 is the best sedan to get if you plan on moding.

citylightva

It's true you can mod a 55 a lot cheaper than a 63 now, but everyone forgets that when the 55's came out it wasn't so cheap then. Of course as always getting power out of a NA is always a little harder and costlier, but its always the same ie heat soak, air charge temp, etc on FI.