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VRP 80mm or Eurocharged 82mm Throttle body kit for Brabus E55?

Old Jan 20, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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Question VRP 80mm or Eurocharged 82mm Throttle body kit for Brabus E55?

I have Brabus E55 K8, 2005, I would like to make some upgrades for the car, I will buy a Johnson CM30 IC pump and a Throttle body for now, leaving the headers and carbon airbox intakes for another time due short of money .

I am considering to get throttle body upgrade kit but I have seen 2 of them:

- One is VRP with 80mm for 1925$
- The second one is Eurocharged with 82mm for 1600$

What is the difference? Which one is recommended? apart from horse power, which one is more reliable and last longer.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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Sorry for the ignorance but can you tell me what are the engine configurations on the Brabus models?

I know there is a twin turbo version but what version do you have>?
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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The engine is V8 with Brabus K8 performance kit, it is not the V12 engine.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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VRP TB is 78mm and more expensive. Eurocharged TB is 82mm and cheaper. Should be a no brainer if you ask me. Bigger TB = more air flow = more power. The VRP inlet probably has the adapter welded on but the Eurocharged is bolt on, thats the only downside I see. Definitely not enough to change my decision, Eurocharged all the way.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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from what i know the brabus k8 is not much..possibly = or less then a pulley +tune E55

no offence, they excell at the V12 engine swap...their V8 upgrades are nothing special from what i have seen for the price tag they charge...


and as for the OP question..go 82mm tb.

but u might need a tune
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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and as for the OP question..go 82mm tb.

but u might need a tune
Why should I have a tune if I will go 82mm? and what kind of tunning ?
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Why should I have a tune if I will go 82mm? and what kind of tunning ?
With the 82 you will change your air/fuel mixture and the ecu needs to be told that more air is now going into the engine, therefor it needs to dump in more fuel and a good tuner can dial this in perfectly.
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With the 82 you will change your air/fuel mixture and the ecu needs to be told that more air is now going into the engine, therefor it needs to dump in more fuel and a good tuner can dial this in perfectly.
So every time there is more air mod I have to take it for tunning? Next time when I change the stock airbox filter with the carbon one I have to take it too ?
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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I dont think you need a re tune. The ecu will adapt to the larger air volume going into the engine.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EcoScope
So every time there is more air mod I have to take it for tunning? Next time when I change the stock airbox filter with the carbon one I have to take it too ?
I'm sure the airbox isn't much of a big deal as a throttle body, of which you will most likely need a tune for...

It certainly wouldn't hurt to give Eurocharged a call to get their thoughts.

But fine tuning any engine mod would definitely help more than hurt.

Good luck
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Originally Posted by EcoScope
So every time there is more air mod I have to take it for tunning? Next time when I change the stock airbox filter with the carbon one I have to take it too ?
If you plan on getting a carbon fiber airbox and a 82mm throttle body I would get the ecu tuned for both so that you maximize your performance modifications.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 01:28 AM
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Thanx a lot for your feedbacks, I think I got a clear picture somehow ,

Eurocharged Throttle + Tunning.

The second question, and i am sorry because i don't understand in modding:

Where should I do this tunning? Is there type of specified shops to do this? Dynos can ?

My knowledge is not that good.

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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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go for the 82mm and u sure need a tune.

PM if you want.

Powerchip are comming @ 3rd Feb. we have some cars to tune them and u can join. it will be a fine tuning on a dyno.
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