e55 w211 kleemann stage 4
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w211 e55 amg klemann stage 4, cl600 w216
e55 w211 kleemann stage 4
Hi everyone! I am new to this website but kinda happy that I found the right place for MB lovers.
I have w211 e55 with stage 4 kleemann upgrades on it, including kleemann LSD!
I wanted ask I, if there is a need to uprgade IC cooling system and what else I could do to make my car run faster?! Sometimes in hot weather it feels like I need to upgrade some other parts of it! Any one has experience in this?
hope somebody will respond!
When I get familiar with this forum I'll upload some pics!
thanks in advance
I have w211 e55 with stage 4 kleemann upgrades on it, including kleemann LSD!
I wanted ask I, if there is a need to uprgade IC cooling system and what else I could do to make my car run faster?! Sometimes in hot weather it feels like I need to upgrade some other parts of it! Any one has experience in this?
hope somebody will respond!
When I get familiar with this forum I'll upload some pics!
thanks in advance
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I seriously doubt you have a stage 4 car without cooling mods?>..You can split your cooling system and add a second resivior but I would think it would have that done too..Maybe if you can take photos of your lower front valence and engine bay we can see what you might have done too it.
Also-search cyrogenic air intake system on google to see if you might want to add different approaches to cooling.
Also-search cyrogenic air intake system on google to see if you might want to add different approaches to cooling.
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w211 e55 amg klemann stage 4, cl600 w216
Seriously without joking! In my country everyone wants just to sell the most expensive staff without assuring that car will work properly. In cold days there are no problems with driving. But when it gets hotter i feel car is getting slower. I surfed web found evosport kompressor cooling package , wonder if that would make any positive impact, and also would love to know if that stuff gonna work with stage 4 upgrades
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w211 e55 amg klemann stage 4, cl600 w216
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Upon those k4 upgrades I am thinking of instaling intercooler upgrade package and also wanna add a carbon air fiber. With lsd and some tomi miakinens on 18'' should be a good time 1/4 mile. Just wondering if that kleeman ecu upgrade will work properly with the upgrades I want to add, or I will need a ecu custom remap? :S
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The Kleemann K4 in fact does NOT come with a heat exchanger and/or pump. At least that is what their website leads one to believe. Ever see that video of a stock M6 beating a "640hp K4"? Well it may have started out with 640hp but it got it's *** kicked because this was missing. Add some cooling and bye bye M6. That's what all that nonsense was about.
http://www.kleemann.dk/Performance/Engines/AMG55.aspx
No mention of a heat exchanger at all in that link.
Zbaron,
What you need my man is a good heat exchanger like what eurocharged has. A good pump would help too, either a johnson CM30 or a Meziere WP136 with the proper fittings. I'm going with the Meziere as it's a bit better from what I can tell.
Do that and you'll be set!
Heat Exhanger Link is below. I don't know if they ship to Russia though.
http://www.eurocharged.com/index.php...mart&Itemid=66
http://www.kleemann.dk/Performance/Engines/AMG55.aspx
No mention of a heat exchanger at all in that link.
Zbaron,
What you need my man is a good heat exchanger like what eurocharged has. A good pump would help too, either a johnson CM30 or a Meziere WP136 with the proper fittings. I'm going with the Meziere as it's a bit better from what I can tell.
Do that and you'll be set!
Heat Exhanger Link is below. I don't know if they ship to Russia though.
http://www.eurocharged.com/index.php...mart&Itemid=66
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w211 e55 amg klemann stage 4, cl600 w216
Ha, got it! I am planing to race soon with some tuned m6 and rs6 mtn(2005) . Thus need to buy this staff. I am hoping to make some good video and pics in near future. Need to finish all the preparations. Thanks for sharing some knowledge , I am pretty sure I'll find some of those you listed above.
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620 HP 900Nm torque some good lsd and tires on 18''. Add some good cooling and this stuff might run around 11.8, may be a bit less. Planing to achieve it, need help and share of some experience
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11.8 in the 1/4 mile? Get some cooling, maybe even an ice resevoir and slicks and you should be there - easy.
Just my opinion buy you should be able to pick up more HP with big Long tube headers. I don't know your budget but do a search on this site and you'll find plenty of information.
Just my opinion buy you should be able to pick up more HP with big Long tube headers. I don't know your budget but do a search on this site and you'll find plenty of information.
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w211 e55 amg klemann stage 4, cl600 w216
About stock m6 beating k4 - they were rolling from 50mph . after 120miles m6 should eat 55 , due to smg gearing) but if we go from start on good tires 1/4 mile outcome might be different. depends on m6 though
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11.8 in the 1/4 mile? Get some cooling, maybe even an ice resevoir and slicks and you should be there - easy.
Just my opinion buy you should be able to pick up more HP with big Long tube headers. I don't know your budget but do a search on this site and you'll find plenty of information.
Just my opinion buy you should be able to pick up more HP with big Long tube headers. I don't know your budget but do a search on this site and you'll find plenty of information.
Evosport cooling package+carbon air fiber box= bmw killer))
planing to go for those mods upon those k4 upgrades. Just wondering if it works, or i will need ecu remap?!?!
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that's a myth and has been disproven by a few properly modded e55's. search for frank's fully modded e55 racing a fully modded m5 and the m5 had no chance even from high speed rolls. that was over a year ago and now there's even more power coming out of the 55's!
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Here is why I say long tubes are better then kleemann. Better in the sense that they make more power. I believe they just bolt right up so that is a plus for them.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...n-headers.html
I don't know if you need the evosport cooling kit, a bit pricy for what it is and you mentioned getting screwed out of money. Not saying they'll screw you but you can get a heat exchanger/pump for much cheaper and add a small resevoir for less then $100USD
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...n-headers.html
I don't know if you need the evosport cooling kit, a bit pricy for what it is and you mentioned getting screwed out of money. Not saying they'll screw you but you can get a heat exchanger/pump for much cheaper and add a small resevoir for less then $100USD
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The M5/M6 top speed destruction is a myth and has been proven in stock vs stock and modded vs modded. That M6 vs E55 video of gustav's was BS because it lacked a simple cooling mod. The E55 was breathing in air that was hot as hell up top and lost power. Lots of power. The longer it went the more power it lost. It had nothing to do with the 7 speed smg although that is a nice feature. More horsepower wins. Period. Don't get me wrong, the 7 forward gears help but it doesn't overcome a 100+hp difference.
Zbaron,
I don't know your budget but you defintely need cooling, perhaps long tube headers and even a bigger pulley which would probably require a tune. But for the love of peanut butter and jelly get some cooling mods.
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w211 e55 amg klemann stage 4, cl600 w216
Here is why I say long tubes are better then kleemann. Better in the sense that they make more power. I believe they just bolt right up so that is a plus for them.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...n-headers.html
I don't know if you need the evosport cooling kit, a bit pricy for what it is and you mentioned getting screwed out of money. Not saying they'll screw you but you can get a heat exchanger/pump for much cheaper and add a small resevoir for less then $100USD
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...n-headers.html
I don't know if you need the evosport cooling kit, a bit pricy for what it is and you mentioned getting screwed out of money. Not saying they'll screw you but you can get a heat exchanger/pump for much cheaper and add a small resevoir for less then $100USD
http://gmpperformance.com/index.cfm?...ID=185757&VS=1
Cooling package + this one should be good, or?
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w211 e55 amg klemann stage 4, cl600 w216
Well I really understood now that Complete Kleemann stage 4 kit is a bit crappy. Now I found out that there are headers which give more hp boost, now i found out that there are wider throttle bodies sold( kleemann 80mm, there is 82 mm throttle body on da market)
the saddest thing is that I dont have a specialist down here who could do custom mapping for the ECU.
aNy1 share ur views please
the saddest thing is that I dont have a specialist down here who could do custom mapping for the ECU.
aNy1 share ur views please
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So the Evosport cooling package with K4 mods should be fine, is that right bruv?
Not too sure about swaping Kleemann headers for long-tube ones, cause of the kleeman ecu.
but i will definetely buy a cooling mod asap. I think Evosport Package should be great
Not too sure about swaping Kleemann headers for long-tube ones, cause of the kleeman ecu.
but i will definetely buy a cooling mod asap. I think Evosport Package should be great
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Check out the eurocharged heat exchanger I linked to earlier. I would talk to them about tuning also but $550USD for a HE and $150 or whatever for a pump is a killer deal compared to $2,500 for essentially the same thing from eurosport. The rest of that kit is just fluff IMO
Kleemann stuff is ok it's just that the mercedes aftermarket moves so slow and that was one of the first things available and it has been surpassed by now.
Talk to you later
Kleemann stuff is ok it's just that the mercedes aftermarket moves so slow and that was one of the first things available and it has been surpassed by now.
Talk to you later
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w211 e55 amg klemann stage 4, cl600 w216
Check out the eurocharged heat exchanger I linked to earlier. I would talk to them about tuning also but $550USD for a HE and $150 or whatever for a pump is a killer deal compared to $2,500 for essentially the same thing from eurosport. The rest of that kit is just fluff IMO
Kleemann stuff is ok it's just that the mercedes aftermarket moves so slow and that was one of the first things available and it has been surpassed by now.
Talk to you later
Kleemann stuff is ok it's just that the mercedes aftermarket moves so slow and that was one of the first things available and it has been surpassed by now.
Talk to you later
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I'm not sure that the other items included in the evosport package are effective. Do a search on this site for "rear reservoir" as that may be a better option for you. This is in addition to a larger heat exchanger. In fact I think the evosport only adds a smaller secondary heat exchanger and while that's nice I think a larger primary one makes more sense. Add a secondary one just for good measure if you want. I'm going to attempt that myself. Just have to find the room!
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I'm not sure that the other items included in the evosport package are effective. Do a search on this site for "rear reservoir" as that may be a better option for you. This is in addition to a larger heat exchanger. In fact I think the evosport only adds a smaller secondary heat exchanger and while that's nice I think a larger primary one makes more sense. Add a secondary one just for good measure if you want. I'm going to attempt that myself. Just have to find the room!
By the way , was adviced to get a larger pulley, remove resonator and secondary cats!
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