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Old 04-06-2010, 11:45 AM
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Anyone else annoyed by the -10 degree fan mod?

Well I am fairly new to the E55 game, but did plenty of research here before I bought one. So of course the first mods I did were to eliminate the Beast's Achilles heel...insufficient cooling.
I added a Johnson CM-30 pump, PLM heat exchanger and lowered the activation temp of the cooling fan ten degrees via Star.

Well yesterday was the first warm day here, with ambient temps in the mid 80's, and that fan was on A LOT!
I found it kind of annoying to have to listen to, with its speed and pitch constantly changing. With the windows up it really wasn't an issue, but with the roof open and the windows down it got to be annoying.

Anyone else disturbed by this? Is my car unusual, or are there other members that did this mod experiencing the same fan run on?
Will decreasing to -5 degrees instead help?

Just curious because I believe it distracts from an otherwise smooth running and refined car.
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I had it done and then quickly undone. To me it was way too loud and detracted from the car. When pulling up, I got a comment on how loud that was and questioned whether it was normal...I knew then I had to have it reverted.
Old 04-06-2010, 01:16 PM
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If it sounds the same as when our cars go into "MAX AC" mode, yeah...it's super loud. I get embarrassed when the car does it, and I turn the fan down one notch, to turn that damn thing off.

The SL, R and E all do it. Haven't noticed it on the C though.
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I don't get embarrassed at all. "That's right *****es, you got to cool a monster like this. It is all about performance!"
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Originally Posted by Worth the wait
Well I am fairly new to the E55 game, but did plenty of research here before I bought one. So of course the first mods I did were to eliminate the Beast's Achilles heel...insufficient cooling.
I added a Johnson CM-30 pump, PLM heat exchanger and lowered the activation temp of the cooling fan ten degrees via Star.

Well yesterday was the first warm day here, with ambient temps in the mid 80's, and that fan was on A LOT!
I found it kind of annoying to have to listen to, with its speed and pitch constantly changing. With the windows up it really wasn't an issue, but with the roof open and the windows down it got to be annoying.

Anyone else disturbed by this? Is my car unusual, or are there other members that did this mod experiencing the same fan run on?
Will decreasing to -5 degrees instead help?

Just curious because I believe it distracts from an otherwise smooth running and refined car.

Yes, I was too. Take it up to -5 and you should be good to go.
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I don't get embarrassed at all. "That's right *****es, you got to cool a monster like this. It is all about performance!"
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I like the super powerful sound my fan makes. When it winds down, it sounds like a jet engine shutting off. It gets alot of attention but never a dirty or disgusted look because it's such a clean sound.
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do yous guys think its necessary to have the Johnson CM-30 pump, PLM heat exchanger . will it have any effect on performance !! i dont have it !! and i dont see any problem with performance

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do yous guys think its necessary to have the Johnson CM-30 pump, PLM heat exchanger . will it have any effect on performance !! i dont have it !! and i dont see any problem with performance

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Thanks for the responses guys...very helpful, as usual,
I am going to do some data logging and then dial it back a bit, re data log and see if there is a big difference.
personally i hate the added noise

To answer aikadus..
These are not power adding mods, they primarily help keep iat's down so the car does not heat soak as much (which shuts down the SC). They may help you make a bit more power on the more heavily modded cars, but do not specifically add power themselves (like pullies or headers). I consider them cheap insurance...lol.
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Originally Posted by Worth the wait
Thanks for the responses guys...very helpful, as usual,
I am going to do some data logging and then dial it back a bit, re data log and see if there is a big difference.
personally i hate the added noise

To answer aikadus..
These are not power adding mods, they primarily help keep iat's down so the car does not heat soak as much (which shuts down the SC). They may help you make a bit more power on the more heavily modded cars, but do not specifically add power themselves (like pullies or headers). I consider them cheap insurance...lol.
heheh .. thanks bro !!! and btw i was asking since that here in the UAE (Dubau) temperature reach up to 40 - 50 degrees Celsiuses !!!!!!!!
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I wish that option was available for the E63....
Would it help with the NA engine?
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Would it help with the NA engine?
You have no idea how inadequate cooling the 63s have.... and yes they do lose power consistently when things heat-up - even slightly
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I don't get embarrassed at all. "That's right *****es, you got to cool a monster like this. It is all about performance!"
Preach it!
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Originally Posted by I Like Soup
I don't get embarrassed at all. "That's right *****es, you got to cool a monster like this. It is all about performance!"
That's why it's called "THE BEAST"
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If you change your thermostat to a 180, would help a lot that the fan is not running that high all the time. The water will circulate better and this will make that the fan work less time in the highest speed.
Of course sometimes you will hear it louder, but less time.
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Originally Posted by Road Racer
If you change your thermostat to a 180, would help a lot that the fan is not running that high all the time. The water will circulate better and this will make that the fan work less time in the highest speed.
Of course sometimes you will hear it louder, but less time.
Isnt the factory a 190? why not just go with a 160?
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Isnt the factory a 190? why not just go with a 160?
I dont know how much is the factory, but I dont think is less than 200-210.

If you put something under 180, the CEL will be on.
At least that is what the people from TT Motorsports explain it to me.
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Originally Posted by Road Racer
If you change your thermostat to a 180, would help a lot that the fan is not running that high all the time. The water will circulate better and this will make that the fan work less time in the highest speed.
Of course sometimes you will hear it louder, but less time.
Thanks for the info!
Where can i get a lower temp thermostat.
Or I could just remove it
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Originally Posted by Worth the wait
Thanks for the info!
Where can i get a lower temp thermostat.
Or I could just remove it
LOL

did you end up getting a new one from somewhere?
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stock thermostat is 188F (87C)

i installed 71C thermostat = 160F.

never had any issue with the engine or CEL. my car was cooler than the other ones (Engine temp).

by scanguage, while crusing it was 74C - 76C. (in winter)

in summer it reaches maximum 90C with -10 fan mode.

i liked the fan mode. anyone heard it said it is like a jet plane going to fly. LOL
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where can I get a lower temp thermostat?
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