MB-BOB

People, clean up this thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, move on. People can have disagreements without insults. If all you can do is throw rocks, then penalties will ensue.

BenzoDoc

Here's some hypocrisy:

But I'm willing to forgive you for that, as it seems you have a lot of experience with the 55 motor. Perhaps you could contribute something?

loungn14

I guess we could have one for us and one for Jeremy then on that note? There are just as many posts about Jeremy and yet that's not a problem for the Jeremy fan club? He is a very good tuner, and deserves the praise for a job well done, but so does Jerry.

Sorry that you get suspicious that posts like this keep coming up. The fact of the matter is we have been busting our A$$ trying to make the best product and best customer service in the game. If you use the search engine you will see that for the past few months, there are a ton of posts like this, in all the sub forums. We definitely realize that a few on the boards are not on the EC bandwagon, and that's fine. All we can do is work as hard as we can to eventually change your perspective, and if that happens great, if not then we did all we can do.

Yes there is a lot of data in the forum. But just as much "he said she said" and misinformed data. Yes, we did have pulley issues a few years ago. Then we changed manufactures (went with asp) and everything has been great ever since. We have replaced tons of pullies at our cost just to make customers happy. We have personally driven hours to people's houses to tune and and also gone to look at issues they are having with the car not related to our products just to help give that extra bit of customer service (other vendors headers/other vendors pullies wobbling etc) And your right, there is a lot of threads out there, with motor issues, with a lot of the tuners on the boards, including Jeremy. Blocked sensor data? If you are talking about turning off cat codes, then yes, every capable tuner can do that. Missing orders? Missing items??? Can you send me a PM about this one? I am not aware of this.

I think what we just accomplished at the Texas Mile speaks wonders about what we can do on the 55 platform.

OBD2 to USB... We have remote tuning kits that we send all over the world that allows us to take control of the pc, and tune the car appropriately.

BenzoDoc

Sorry Bob.

Rocket Boost

Well said.

I see a disproportionate amount of actual date shared by Eurocharged and their customers, compared to other tuners/customers. Time slips, Texas mile results, before and after dyno sheets..ect thats what i consider data. X tuner is "my guy" or i like "this tuner" means absolutely nothing to me. Country road flybys, "look at my part of the week, and horrible exhaust clip threads are not all that convincing.

chawkins2001

The guy is a new forum member, he got great service from jerry and is very satisfied with the product, enough said, let him show his gratitude and be happy with his new found power.

Generally new forum members get very excited with upgrades and until proven otherwise, I think it should be left at that.

gonzales25

I totally agree, I got really excited after my first tune

LOCO 05' E55

I've used three tunes from 3 different companies and I would only post personal experiences, we don't have to post any proof of anything negative done by any tuner in the past around here,that is why there is a search bar. The least some of us can do is warn the newbies about certain companies that have done well for some and real bad for others but yet only the so called good ones come out..

From what I've seen Jeremy's "fanboys" come out here with numbers (track numbers that is) and not saying he's god and how I'm pinned to the seat or how the Esp triangle keeps blinking..this is clearly a campaign that this tuner is starting for the past few months and if we chose to click on the thread is to mention nothing but facts and a bit of the tuners past that's all!! Good luck with all the torque and Search!!

Oh..Guys protect your knees- wear knee pads!

Jakpro1

Unless Jerry has changed the setup, he sends the tune to the laptop, then has you connect the obdII flashing unit to the laptop and then he loads the flasher with the tune.

You just unplug the flasher and then plug it into your car.

With Jeremys system, it's the same thing, cept you get the files in an email and load them onto your portable flashing unit (which is yours to keep) and flash from there.

Rocket Boost

Does the Texas mile count as a track?

LOCO 05' E55

That's definitely a track!!! Does that mean none of us can't go that fast?? Now to the 1320' which is where 98% of us usually do our baseline runs.

Exotic-metal55

I post all my track slips, dynos, part numbers, custom work, research , how to`s and even slips info from Texas mile/1/4 mile.. Many here have stopped doing that but really doesnt matter to me if someone wants to hate on it or not.. If I post any more details, it may be considered **** and deleted.. LMAO!

All the decontructive post , are the main reason the MB format is not growing and seems to be shrinking. This is the best section on the NET to run off tuners and sponsors that I have seen on all car forums combined..

loungn14

Correct. We also have the same remote unit that Jeremy does. (most likely the same vendor selling to both of us)

I honestly wish more AMG guys would get to the mile. That is a true and extremely consistant test of what a car can do. I learned a lot of stuff this weekend about the mile. People don't just get to the line and floor it like the drag strip. They go slow and then get on it as taking off hard from the line apparently doesn't matter. I also asked about weight of the car, and again its not a big deal as pushing through the 150pmh wall takes pure hp to maintain. Kurt was there and would simply look at a car and be able to tell within a mph or two what it should do.

Tuning on a dyno is not the same as being able to tune for the mile. You need to maintain the hp through the entire powerband, not just go for max hp in 3rd gear.

We should have some 1/4 mile numbers soon for you from brookes car.

Rocket Boost

If 98% of you test and tune at the track where are all the time slips? Show me dyno numbers, thats where the real story is told. A dyno is a measurement tool of the rotational torque you can apply at the wheels, from which a hp number is extrapolated since Tq is a force and HP is a formula for work. Track numbers are about how you can put the power down into acceleration. All i see around here is burnout vids and childish flyby videos. Once again i see lots of PROOF of what Eurocharged claims from them and their customers.

Exotic-metal55

REALLY? I bet not even 4% E55 owners have even run thier cars at 1320 mark, much less baseline there.. I think Wax, wheels, Carbon fiber trim is used far more for a basline than the 1320..

pearlpower

The quickest E55 here that I know of is not eurocharged tune.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-20299.html

Hopefully those with the 'new' EC will get their cars out to the 1/4 track and show us their #s.

LOCO 05' E55

FULL THROTTLE AKA ROCKET BOOST SAYS "Show me dyno numbers, thats where the real story is told. A dyno is a measurement tool of the rotational torque you can apply at the wheels, from which a hp number is extrapolated since Tq is a force and HP is a formula for work. Track numbers are about how you can put the power down into acceleration"

Rocket Boost

Hopefully people who bash them in favor of "their guy" will too.

pearlpower

You appear to be new here, so I will share that there does exist solid reasons for some to dislike this company. A search will review those very length threads. I hate Ford and GM with a passion-for good reasons. You may have dislike for companies yourself-for good reason.

I myself experienced shoddy service from EC along with PMs that never went answered even if they posted above 'send me a PM.' Nothing serious, just felt things could have gone much smoother. There are also many that have received great service from them and I do not doubt that either. Just how it goes. Also, this forum in the past have had to deal with unscrupulous vendors that were only interested in making the mighty buck regardless of the quality of their products. Generally they go by the wayside which also occurred here.

Ultimately, all of us as a collective group should have one thing in common which is to have the best performance options available or our cars with 'safety' in mind regardless of where it comes from.

Currently OEtuning has the quickest non NOS 55 out there in the 1/4. Formosa is right around the corner and the tuners will be out there tuning between runs. How awesome is that? I'm looking forward to the results regardless of the name on the wall.

LOCO 05' E55

Sorry meant quarter mile

chawkins2001

You are right about that Metal. Go over to www.svtperformance.com and you will see a forum that is leaps and bounds bigger than this forum, however the vendor squabbles are way less. Each vendor has their own niche and own type of customer. The major differences are that there are huge mustang magazines out where they can advertise and push their products unlike the E55 AMG or AMG in general. They really dont have anything to push their products other than forums which is tough.

The other issue is that the E55 is getting new types of owners who are wanting to push the car to new limits and with that comes failure at some point to something. The problem is, in the E55 world, failure means $$$$. That is when the vendor bashing comes out. Fingers start pointing and comments true or false start been said.
Been in the cobra game for 8 years, failure does happen but it is not nearly as pricey and it has been around for decades. There is much more R&D out there on what works and what the limits are.

The E55 section here is very piranha like But I think on this board, members are way more skeptical and cautious because there are more unknowns, and we are all still new to this modding game. We tend to look out for each other, and have our feelers out all the timeOver time I think if this niche continues to grow, each vendor will begin to grab there own type of customer, and the customer will know what they want out of their car, and how far they want to push the limits.

BenzoDoc

Not sure if you're serious.... 1320 IS the 1/4 mile.

I searched and read the two blown motors threads that popped up.

So you and aleksandar1099 had blown motors. Yours sounds legitimate, his did not [his mistake, not the tuners... you can't blame a tuner if you blow your motor up when flashed with a stock map]

Both threads referenced deleted threads...which other members had threads deleted?

Rocket Boost

CLASSIC!!!

BenzoDoc

Thanks for sharing.

A tuner in Houston [SGP Racing] blew 2 turbos and then the motor on my old track car...when going for a conservative tune that could handle the extra stressors inherently associated with tracking a car in 95* Texas heat.

They had an incredible reputation when the car got to them, but by the time they were able to get around to working on my car 6 months later, they were the worst of the scum as far as reputation was concerned.

Thus, things change in the tuning world quite rapidly, and it is all the more important to have facts and not emotions.

pearlpower

A lot of truth in them words right there.