Pulling the trigger on an '09 E63, Have some questions...
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Pulling the trigger on an '09 E63, Have some questions...
It's been a while but I baaack and about to join the party. I'm looking for a Flint Gray(Grey? Ghey?) E63, preferably an '09 with low miles.
I want the thing LOADED but in case I can't find one with everything, what are the must haves?
Not planning to mod the hell out of it, where I've moved there are no real fast roads, but what if anything should I do? I'm certainly going to lower it.
Where can I find gunmetal/black badges, or should I have mine sprayed? I want to gray this thing out.
How is the sound system? Can I hook my iphone up to it?
What should I be paying for a low mile CPO car?
What else do I need to know, and what other questions should I be asking?
I want the thing LOADED but in case I can't find one with everything, what are the must haves?
Not planning to mod the hell out of it, where I've moved there are no real fast roads, but what if anything should I do? I'm certainly going to lower it.
Where can I find gunmetal/black badges, or should I have mine sprayed? I want to gray this thing out.
How is the sound system? Can I hook my iphone up to it?
What should I be paying for a low mile CPO car?
What else do I need to know, and what other questions should I be asking?
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Hard to find one not loaded, but Premium pkg. II is pretty much everything. Unless you like wonky distronic, blah...Only other real options are the Performance Pack. and pano roof, which almost every car has...Sound system is pretty good...I've never heard the hissiness everyone complains about...It should have an iPod jack in the glove box that shows up in the middle of you gauge cluster...Good luck, that's an awesome color..
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At my local dealership, I seen a iridium silver 09 E63, that I inquired about. It has 11k for miles, asking 63K. It doesn't have distronic, from what I could see, but the seats are black AMG leather. Pretty much all the E63 came fully loaded, I think that distronic, parktronic, panoramic roof, and maybe an ipod adapter were the only options, from what I can remember when I bought my 07 E63. ![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
The asking price is a bit high for this car, IMHO.
So, I'm just throwing it out there for those interested.
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The asking price is a bit high for this car, IMHO.
So, I'm just throwing it out there for those interested.
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Premium II Covers Everything but....
Side Rear Curtains
Ipod Adapter
Distronic
Pano Roof
P30 Package (You should opt for this my personal opinion, I reget not getting it)
Ohh and Sirius (I think) might be standard with the upgraded 09 radio
Side Rear Curtains
Ipod Adapter
Distronic
Pano Roof
P30 Package (You should opt for this my personal opinion, I reget not getting it)
Ohh and Sirius (I think) might be standard with the upgraded 09 radio
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Lets see
Suspension Setting are different from the factory (50% Stiffer I believe)
The Bolts used in the Front and Rear suspension are stronger
Upgraded Rear Differential
Speed Limiter is removed to 182MPH
Wider Tires on Front and Rear
Larger 19inch Wheels all around
The Steering wheel has Alcantara Inserts
The fastest stock W211 E63 which ran the Quarter in 11.95 or so was a P30 car. I have also read a standard E63 with Tune is as Fast as a Stock P30 car. Also its very RARE and if you can find one it should hold its value better than a standard E63
Suspension Setting are different from the factory (50% Stiffer I believe)
The Bolts used in the Front and Rear suspension are stronger
Upgraded Rear Differential
Speed Limiter is removed to 182MPH
Wider Tires on Front and Rear
Larger 19inch Wheels all around
The Steering wheel has Alcantara Inserts
The fastest stock W211 E63 which ran the Quarter in 11.95 or so was a P30 car. I have also read a standard E63 with Tune is as Fast as a Stock P30 car. Also its very RARE and if you can find one it should hold its value better than a standard E63
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PERFORMANCE PKG
$8,500.00
18" AMG staggered-width 5-spoke 2-piece wheels
high performance tires
AMG leather & Alcantara steering wheel w/aluminum shift paddles
186-mph top speed limiter
limited-slip differential
AMG Track calibrated Airmatic suspension
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...fCarsQ5fTrucks
Not that far from me its not P30 but its a 09 with less than 5K miles! I believe is the color you are looking for as well
PERFORMANCE PKG
$8,500.00
18" AMG staggered-width 5-spoke 2-piece wheels
high performance tires
AMG leather & Alcantara steering wheel w/aluminum shift paddles
186-mph top speed limiter
limited-slip differential
AMG Track calibrated Airmatic suspension
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...fCarsQ5fTrucks
Not that far from me its not P30 but its a 09 with less than 5K miles! I believe is the color you are looking for as well
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Lets see
Suspension Setting are different from the factory (50% Stiffer I believe)
The Bolts used in the Front and Rear suspension are stronger
Upgraded Rear Differential
Speed Limiter is removed to 182MPH
Wider Tires on Front and Rear
Larger 19inch Wheels all around
The Steering wheel has Alcantara Inserts
The fastest stock W211 E63 which ran the Quarter in 11.95 or so was a P30 car. I have also read a standard E63 with Tune is as Fast as a Stock P30 car. Also its very RARE and if you can find one it should hold its value better than a standard E63
Suspension Setting are different from the factory (50% Stiffer I believe)
The Bolts used in the Front and Rear suspension are stronger
Upgraded Rear Differential
Speed Limiter is removed to 182MPH
Wider Tires on Front and Rear
Larger 19inch Wheels all around
The Steering wheel has Alcantara Inserts
The fastest stock W211 E63 which ran the Quarter in 11.95 or so was a P30 car. I have also read a standard E63 with Tune is as Fast as a Stock P30 car. Also its very RARE and if you can find one it should hold its value better than a standard E63
- Front wheels on P30 E63 is same dimensions as non P30 E63
- Rear wheels on P30 E63 are 9.5 inch instead of 9.0 as on non P30 E63
- All wheels are 18" but they are 2 piece instead of one piece
- Speed Limiter is set to 186 mph
- Steering wheel used to have Alacantra inserts for 2007 P30 packages but in 2008 and 2009, they switched the wheel to Black Series style wheel.
- The fastest stock W211 E63 does not have P30 package. Also, the car that car, which belongs to oldgixxer, is no longer fastest. It is only the quickest. The fastest title got taken away back in 2009. One car trapped slightly higher.
EDIT: oops.... just saw your updated post.
Cylinder Head.... if you ever get a P30 car, make sure you don't get one with the pano roof option. The pano roof adds an additional 140 pounds or so, and the weight is added at the worst possible spot to hinder performance: on the roof
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A few minor corrections here....
- Front wheels on P30 E63 is same dimensions as non P30 E63
- Rear wheels on P30 E63 are 9.5 inch instead of 9.0 as on non P30 E63
- All wheels are 18" but they are 2 piece instead of one piece
- Speed Limiter is set to 186 mph
- Steering wheel used to have Alacantra inserts for 2007 P30 packages but in 2008 and 2009, they switched the wheel to Black Series style wheel.
- The fastest stock W211 E63 does not have P30 package. Also, the car that car, which belongs to oldgixxer, is no longer fastest. It is only the quickest. The fastest title got taken away back in 2009. One car trapped slightly higher.
EDIT: oops.... just saw your updated post.
Cylinder Head.... if you ever get a P30 car, make sure you don't get one with the pano roof option. The pano roof adds an additional 140 pounds or so, and the weight is added at the worst possible spot to hinder performance: on the roof![wall](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/banghead.gif)
- Front wheels on P30 E63 is same dimensions as non P30 E63
- Rear wheels on P30 E63 are 9.5 inch instead of 9.0 as on non P30 E63
- All wheels are 18" but they are 2 piece instead of one piece
- Speed Limiter is set to 186 mph
- Steering wheel used to have Alacantra inserts for 2007 P30 packages but in 2008 and 2009, they switched the wheel to Black Series style wheel.
- The fastest stock W211 E63 does not have P30 package. Also, the car that car, which belongs to oldgixxer, is no longer fastest. It is only the quickest. The fastest title got taken away back in 2009. One car trapped slightly higher.
EDIT: oops.... just saw your updated post.
Cylinder Head.... if you ever get a P30 car, make sure you don't get one with the pano roof option. The pano roof adds an additional 140 pounds or so, and the weight is added at the worst possible spot to hinder performance: on the roof
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Thanks for the Update!!!
Steering wheel used to have Alacantra inserts for 2007 P30 packages but in 2008 and 2009, they switched the wheel to Black Series style wheel.
Great info I had no idea I have never seen a 08 or 09 P30 with a flat bottom!!! I am looking at changing my steering wheel too!
Steering wheel used to have Alacantra inserts for 2007 P30 packages but in 2008 and 2009, they switched the wheel to Black Series style wheel.
Great info I had no idea I have never seen a 08 or 09 P30 with a flat bottom!!! I am looking at changing my steering wheel too!
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You'll be hard pressed to find a P030 2009 car. There were only around 400 of the 2009 E63s sold in the US.
You can "make" a non-P030 car into a P030 car if you wanted to. Just add the LSD (my dealer even said they could add the factory OEM version) and the stiffer Airmatics (makes me wonder if that may even be able to be done with SDS; I've never checked the parts numbers between non-P030 struts and P030 struts.) You can even buy the P030 steering wheel if you want one. You can delimit the car via the ECU and factory P030 wheels are available.
If you do end up wanting Distronic, you can add Distronic later. Steve from BenzNL can do it as a factory OEM install.
But what the 2009 gives you over the 2007-8 is the way better COMAND system. It comes with the current hard drive system and with a MUCH better Nav, audio gateway, full voice control, bluetooth, etc.. It's worth it, imho.
You can "make" a non-P030 car into a P030 car if you wanted to. Just add the LSD (my dealer even said they could add the factory OEM version) and the stiffer Airmatics (makes me wonder if that may even be able to be done with SDS; I've never checked the parts numbers between non-P030 struts and P030 struts.) You can even buy the P030 steering wheel if you want one. You can delimit the car via the ECU and factory P030 wheels are available.
If you do end up wanting Distronic, you can add Distronic later. Steve from BenzNL can do it as a factory OEM install.
But what the 2009 gives you over the 2007-8 is the way better COMAND system. It comes with the current hard drive system and with a MUCH better Nav, audio gateway, full voice control, bluetooth, etc.. It's worth it, imho.
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Thanks for the Update!!!
Steering wheel used to have Alacantra inserts for 2007 P30 packages but in 2008 and 2009, they switched the wheel to Black Series style wheel.
Great info I had no idea I have never seen a 08 or 09 P30 with a flat bottom!!! I am looking at changing my steering wheel too!
Steering wheel used to have Alacantra inserts for 2007 P30 packages but in 2008 and 2009, they switched the wheel to Black Series style wheel.
Great info I had no idea I have never seen a 08 or 09 P30 with a flat bottom!!! I am looking at changing my steering wheel too!
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Welcome back, CH! You've been missed.
If Active Multi-Contour/Drive Dynamic Seats are available on the E63, get it. One of my favorite options, on my W211.
Have you and your girl popped out any puppies yet? If so, get the rear and side window shades.
If Active Multi-Contour/Drive Dynamic Seats are available on the E63, get it. One of my favorite options, on my W211.
Have you and your girl popped out any puppies yet? If so, get the rear and side window shades.
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The new C63 coupe (that the automotive press is raving about) will be marketed in the US with the glass roof. What's interesting is that Tobias Moers (AMG head of development) said they went all out with the C63 and with no compromises, but the marketers still insisted on the glass roof. He says it doesn't really affect the curb weight or center of gravity, and claimed that people won't notice it. But he admitted that did feel it when he had the car on the track.
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I think everyone has answered the questions you asked.
I personally like the pano, especially on a white car. 140 lbs extra on a powerful sled is no biggie since you can always get a faster track car. Plus you got your M5 if you really need a 4 door handler.
Try to get the 030 pack if possible.
I think everyone has answered the questions you asked.
I personally like the pano, especially on a white car. 140 lbs extra on a powerful sled is no biggie since you can always get a faster track car. Plus you got your M5 if you really need a 4 door handler.
Try to get the 030 pack if possible.
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The new C63 coupe (that the automotive press is raving about) will be marketed in the US with the glass roof. What's interesting is that Tobias Moers (AMG head of development) said they went all out with the C63 and with no compromises, but the marketers still insisted on the glass roof. He says it doesn't really affect the curb weight or center of gravity, and claimed that people won't notice it. But he admitted that did feel it when he had the car on the track.
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However, I do know that on the E-Class, there is about 120 to 140 lbs added from the pano roof. Also, three years ago, AMG had confirmed through the Private Lounge that the pano roof option added extra weight to the car. I've personally driven one with and one without pano roof and although I love the pano roof option, I would get on non-AMG Mercedes NOT on an AMG.
Welcome back to the electronic jungle.
I think everyone has answered the questions you asked.
I personally like the pano, especially on a white car. 140 lbs extra on a powerful sled is no biggie since you can always get a faster track car. Plus you got your M5 if you really need a 4 door handler.
Try to get the 030 pack if possible.
I think everyone has answered the questions you asked.
I personally like the pano, especially on a white car. 140 lbs extra on a powerful sled is no biggie since you can always get a faster track car. Plus you got your M5 if you really need a 4 door handler.
Try to get the 030 pack if possible.
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Welcome back to the electronic jungle.
I think everyone has answered the questions you asked.
I personally like the pano, especially on a white car. 140 lbs extra on a powerful sled is no biggie since you can always get a faster track car. Plus you got your M5 if you really need a 4 door handler.
Try to get the 030 pack if possible.
I think everyone has answered the questions you asked.
I personally like the pano, especially on a white car. 140 lbs extra on a powerful sled is no biggie since you can always get a faster track car. Plus you got your M5 if you really need a 4 door handler.
Try to get the 030 pack if possible.
I think one person touched on price but otherwise there's been some good info shared no doubt.
I haven't had a good experience so far with MB Dealers. Motivated buyer putting down a huge chunk of cash and I can't get a call back from anyone.
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Since the roof is smaller on the C-Class, the weight addition maybe less than on the E-Class ![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
However, I do know that on the E-Class, there is about 120 to 140 lbs added from the pano roof. Also, three years ago, AMG had confirmed through the Private Lounge that the pano roof option added extra weight to the car. I've personally driven one with and one without pano roof and although I love the pano roof option, I would get on non-AMG Mercedes NOT on an AMG.
![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
However, I do know that on the E-Class, there is about 120 to 140 lbs added from the pano roof. Also, three years ago, AMG had confirmed through the Private Lounge that the pano roof option added extra weight to the car. I've personally driven one with and one without pano roof and although I love the pano roof option, I would get on non-AMG Mercedes NOT on an AMG.
I'd like to see a complete sunroof delete option with AMGs (Porsche gives you that option.)
Too bad the C63 coupe didn't go with a CF roof. Apparently the marketers thought the pano will sell more cars (at least in the US)
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Just figured I'd mention it because all this talk about P30 and pano roof may have made it sound like pano roof is part of the P30 to new comers ![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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