Another RTR pulley failure
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To your pointed question, any issue that is found would be rectified and dealt with appropriately. None of us want cars to break, we all want good products that perform well. It does not benefit us or anyone else to shove this "under the rug" as you are suggesting. We have over 50 units out there and if there is a common denominator that can tie any issues together then we would acknowledge and rectify. Your issues have been publicly documented repeatedly, so holding on to the pulley solves nothing for you or anyone else.
To your pointed question, any issue that is found would be rectified and dealt with appropriately. None of us want cars to break, we all want good products that perform well. It does not benefit us or anyone else to shove this "under the rug" as you are suggesting. We have over 50 units out there and if there is a common denominator that can tie any issues together then we would acknowledge and rectify. Your issues have been publicly documented repeatedly, so holding on to the pulley solves nothing for you or anyone else.
Can you explain what that actually means for the people that have had them fail already? How would you rectify it?
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Anybody have the pulley steel checked for type / hardness and compare to factory?
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Craig, you are constantly stirring the pot, and creating stories without facts to base them on. So any independent entity I have test the pulleys will be immediately flawed for a conflict of interest, but your independent test will be more reliable- how? You want someone to say that the pulley is bad, I want solutions to any common issues to a problem that I can't even look at because I have not one piece back from anyone.
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Name the stories I have made up, and I will provide hard facts to substantiate my comments Brooke.
Why don't we agree on a neutral place for my rtr pulleys, along with the OP and Steve's. Once that is accomplished, I will send them off along with an OEM pulley for comparisons sake.
Why don't we agree on a neutral place for my rtr pulleys, along with the OP and Steve's. Once that is accomplished, I will send them off along with an OEM pulley for comparisons sake.
Craig, you are constantly stirring the pot, and creating stories without facts to base them on. So any independent entity I have test the pulleys will be immediately flawed for a conflict of interest, but your independent test will be more reliable- how? You want someone to say that the pulley is bad, I want solutions to any common issues to a problem that I can't even look at because I have not one piece back from anyone.
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Craig, you are constantly stirring the pot, and creating stories without facts to base them on. So any independent entity I have test the pulleys will be immediately flawed for a conflict of interest, but your independent test will be more reliable- how? You want someone to say that the pulley is bad, I want solutions to any common issues to a problem that I can't even look at because I have not one piece back from anyone.
Jerry said that he will take care of the problem so i wait till he sends me a new one. But i clearly saw what went wrong with mine. The conecting bolts broke. Bad desiegn for sure.
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Is this a RTR pulley Airtony?
Brooke, you said earlier that these are still accusations, and there is no hard evidence, well what do you call all these failures then, and in your own opinion, WHAT IS CAUSING THEM?
Brooke, you said earlier that these are still accusations, and there is no hard evidence, well what do you call all these failures then, and in your own opinion, WHAT IS CAUSING THEM?
I bought a 180 pulley and it broke 10k later So bad install is out of the question. Broken pulley is a bad pulley. Jerry said that he will take care of the problem so i wait till he sends me a new one. But i clearly saw what went wrong with mine. The conecting bolts broke. Bad desiegn for sure.
Jerry said that he will take care of the problem so i wait till he sends me a new one. But i clearly saw what went wrong with mine. The conecting bolts broke. Bad desiegn for sure.Last edited by chawkins2001; May 22, 2012 at 07:25 PM.
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Name the stories I have made up, and I will provide hard facts to substantiate my comments Brooke.
Why don't we agree on a neutral place for my rtr pulleys, along with the OP and Steve's. Once that is accomplished, I will send them off along with an OEM pulley for comparisons sake.
Why don't we agree on a neutral place for my rtr pulleys, along with the OP and Steve's. Once that is accomplished, I will send them off along with an OEM pulley for comparisons sake.
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Ask someone that had their motor blown by another tuner. All I can tell you is that OE didn't do anything and put the blame everywhere but on themselves. And this was on a car that broke all 8 piston ring lands on literally the first pull post tune. Eurocharged offered parts for a motor OE blew
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Blanket statements posting about other people who are not claiming issues themselves are not facts. Two pulleys here, another one there, that is all baseless, again not one part has been returned. If people are legitimately having issues then they themselves can report it, and don't you think someone would have sent it back by now? You are clearly on a witch hunt against Brooke, that is your business with him. You and the few others who continually chime in, have done nothing to look towards any answers or solutions, the only thing you have done is repeatedly made personal attacks. If you truly thought there was something wrong with the design, you would have stopped all the talking a long time ago and taken some action, but instead you revel in the limelight of insulting and degrading posts. You can continue to call me Brooke, Shardul or any other members name you would like, but it is childish, immature and not working towards any solutions.
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I did not skip over them, I will give you your attention too. You are asking speculative questions that I can give no good answer to. Anything I say will not be satisfactory because this is the hostile environment that you and the others have created. What if the tables are turned? The pulley comes back perfectly sound, no issues and it is a OEM issue instead? What will you do to erase all of the damage that has been done to me, my business, friends and family?
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I'm not going to hijack this this however, I'm sure you were not the only one there when/if this happened, so I'm sure you would have witnesses, but instead right now we have your version and theirs and I'm sure they are very different, all I know is that Jeremy has been extremely respectful and extremely professional in the way he works, not to mention that many 10 second cars have been tuned by him not to mention that Bruce who in my opinion is one of the most knowledgeable in this game has tunes only from Jeremy on his fastest cars
Every time there's something on RTR , you have to bring up OE, they are not related so why bring it up?
Every time there's something on RTR , you have to bring up OE, they are not related so why bring it up?
I did not skip over them, I will give you your attention too. You are asking speculative questions that I can give no good answer to. Anything I say will not be satisfactory because this is the hostile environment that you and the others have created. What if the tables are turned? The pulley comes back perfectly sound, no issues and it is a OEM issue instead? What will you do to erase all of the damage that has been done to me, my business, friends and family?
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I did not skip over them, I will give you your attention too. You are asking speculative questions that I can give no good answer to. Anything I say will not be satisfactory because this is the hostile environment that you and the others have created. What if the tables are turned? The pulley comes back perfectly sound, no issues and it is a OEM issue instead? What will you do to erase all of the damage that has been done to me, my business, friends and family?
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You'll probably be disappointed to know that mine is still doing fine. You've been crawling all over my sac since this thing started trying to rustle my jimmies. Other than a recent P2007 code and a rich tune, which is getting fixed soon, it's still running like a champ.
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All of the accusations of the RTR pullies being defective is still only that. Accusations. Not one pulley has ever been returned to ASP or UPD or RTR or EC for anyone to look at or inspect for cause. We have worked endlessly behind the scenes with the users, dealers, and manufacturer to get these products back to look at. Every manufacturer has the right to inspect any product that someone makes claims against. We work with anyone who has a valid issue, and who works with us, but to date we have only been on the receiving end of endlessly vicious attacks.
well I hate to add to the fire and I was given a full refund and had no issues getting it, but id hate to see someone else engine crap out, this is the pulley I received from RTR and these pictures were immediate taken after opening the box, totally not what I was expecting. Ill let you decided if you would install this after opening the box...I posted this because theres an issue with this pulleys and after reading your post you seem like your still in denial
