W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Eurocharged, Kleeman & Renntech

Old Nov 12, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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Eurocharged, Kleeman & Renntech

Hey guys,

I finally got the courage to think about getting a tune, I have no mods yet just planning to start with a simple tune.

Many of you have Eurocharged some have Kleeman and some have Renntech

I know Eurocharge offer lifetime free re-flashes and also is closeby to where I live so no need to send in ECU same is with Kleeman.


So guys I need your opinion. Which is the best ?

Facts ? gains ? suggestions ? Best Bang for buck ?
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Old Nov 12, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by viren.89
Hey guys,

I finally got the courage to think about getting a tune, I have no mods yet just planning to start with a simple tune.

Many of you have Eurocharged some have Kleeman and some have Renntech

I know Eurocharge offer lifetime free re-flashes and also is closeby to where I live so no need to send in ECU same is with Kleeman.


So guys I need your opinion. Which is the best ?

Facts ? gains ? suggestions ? Best Bang for buck ?
Here we go!

Watch the vid in my sig, and you will see where I'm at.
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Old Nov 12, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBullJnky
Here we go!

Watch the vid in my sig, and you will see where I'm at.
I look at your videos every night before going to bed hoping to be there one day lol

But You have stage 3 bro, I was just simply talking about a "tune" that's it.

Someone pointed it out that a stock E55 makes 390 hp to wheels so just a tune , euro says gains around 52 hp , is it true ?
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 12:55 AM
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 01:19 AM
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My sc pulley & tune is good - I recommend both!
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Toadster
My sc pulley & tune is good - I recommend both!
Both is good ? there are three companies , who did you get what from ?

Kleeman has been longest in business I thought they'd be better?
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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my eurcharged tune is good, i was very happy with it. i do get a cutting out issue around the 2500 rpm range in M mode 1st gear but sounds like they have a fix for it. so i will be contacting adam or jerry about that.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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my eurcharged tune is good, i was very happy with it. i do get a cutting out issue around the 2500 rpm range in M mode 1st gear but sounds like they have a fix for it. so i will be contacting adam or jerry about that.
SO if the gains and everything are the same with all of them, why do people go with Kleeman and Renntech which don't even offer free reflashes ? is it cuz of the brand name ? status symbol of some sort ?
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 10:55 AM
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A couple of weeks ago I would have said euro charged but after all the problems I had with them I would recommened you look into Buckhead imports
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DME55
A couple of weeks ago I would have said euro charged but after all the problems I had with them I would recommened you look into Buckhead imports
Problems with their performed tune or customer service or something ? If you don't mind sharing what went wrong ? and my car is a daily driver and Buckhead imports I believe is US based and I rather not mail my ECU lol
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 11:06 AM
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From my experience, RennTech and Kleemann will only do "tunes" when you go with their stage 1 package which includes a crank pulley.

Eurocharged will gladly do a "tune only". Expect ~25-30whp and ~25-30wtq from a tune only.

The Renntech and Kleeman pulley and tunes will net 40-50whp and 50-70wtq.

There is also a considerable cost associated with Kleeman and Renntech. Although the performance and service is justified.

Look into the Eurocharged SC pulley and tune. Great price and good power.

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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 11:14 AM
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Problems with their performed tune or customer service or something ? If you don't mind sharing what went wrong ? and my car is a daily driver and Buckhead imports I believe is US based and I rather not mail my ECU lol
Pretty sure BI does remote tunes.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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The problems I had were mainly customer service and also trying to get correct honest answers and yes bi-performance does remote tunes the same way euro charged does them
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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My Kleeman tune and pulley from Cory netted me 49 whp and 61 rwt.. Quality product and customer service great.. re-flashes are only $100, so not that big of a deal..
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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I have Kleemann Header and Tune. The customer service of Cory is Excellent I love the power !!!
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Eurocharged claims 52 hp gains and others claim less than that. Free re-flash is still better than $100 lol just saying

I didn't know kleeman doesn't do re-flashes without mods? I didn't know that
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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buckhead imports you wont be disappointed. i tune sct so it was weird having someone in control of my tune but tony didnt mind my imput since i did the data logging the results a great tune that feels awsome and a safe af ratio. Track times are a coming
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Happy Eurocharged customer for 3 years (multiple tunes including a custom one). The other companies are well established with a good name and that is probably why more people tend to go with them but you won't be disappointed with Jerry and no MB tax with him .
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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I have to put my vote in for Jerry and Eurocharged as well. He will put in so much time to make the tune just right once you start getting into custom mods.
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Originally Posted by viren.89
Both is good ? there are three companies , who did you get what from ?

Kleeman has been longest in business I thought they'd be better?
both mods

my tune is from EC - Jerry's a great guy, I haven't met Kory or the Renntech guys - but everyone has their favorites
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Kleemann all day,No check engine lights,no part throttle issues,no long pause between shift issues and last but not least did I mention no check engine lights and no problems passing all inspection monitors?Who needs a retune when there tune is perfect from the get go?

Here is an off the shelf kleemann dyno.



Here is another car with my same file!!!


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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 07:08 AM
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I've had both a EC Tune and Kleemann and as Scratch states above, I'm very happy with my Kleemann tune for the same reasons. Reliability, power, customer service, safety and what feels like a much more, "Nuanced" tune if that makes any sense.

I'll have my car dyo'd in the next week or so with my Kleemann tune and post the results here.

Two thumbs way up for Kleemann!

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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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I won't be dealing with Jerry but rather Mike, since I'm in Canada and either he's a partner in Eurocharged or just a branch of it. Not sure. I have also emailed Kleeman authorized shop here in Oakridge Ontario. Waiting for a response.

Thank you all for your responses
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