AMGPilot

While you may have had a "Good Experience" you're lack of any actual experience or common sense invalidates any of your "Findings"

Seriously I'm surprised that your "Technical" blog doesn't have a photo series on how to actually fuel your car from a gas pump because honestly even that might be above your technical expertise level

moosejaw

GR
These were originally priced at $1100 on his website when they first came out. How great can they be if they can be discounted a whopping 30%?

Regardless if you feel my opinion is biased
The numbers put down don't make sense
All this thread serves is just bad PR for Fabtech

Toadster

yes, because a good experience doesn't count - right?

I swear some of you guys are so narcissistic to the point of hatred of anything not earned by failure

pearlpower

I for one am glad this kit is out, the more the better. Beyond the HP claims which most of us agree are 'generous', if someone is looking for a rear muffler setup your options are sort of limited and it is nice for enthusiasts to have other options

Now, I cannot comment on fit/finish, welds, etc. However if those are in line, then $760 would be a decent price. If........

I like the stock setup and will hold onto it until something else comes along. Not much tops the OEM tips either.

AMGPilot

Well let's look at what he really has in those mufflers.

Magnaflow Stainless steel 3" offset offset oval cans $115 RETAIL $75 wholesale each

Tips $75 Retail $40 wholesale each

3" stainless exhaust piping $18/foot retail $12 foot wholesale 8 feet required $96 total


so he has $326 in this project.....

His claims about lack of drone are as factual as his horsepower claims. I had those cans on my car when magnaflow prototyped out a system on my car.... it was unbearable

AMGPilot

No But reading a forum doesn't give you real world experience which you seem to think it does.

Over and Over you prove a lack of practical experience and understanding of how things work, BUT you want us to take your word for it. This village had an idiot like that before his name was Jangy and you are starting to fill in the void he left when he ripped people off and vanished

DVC

It's funny, these cans on an LS1 sound decent, but with these 3 valve heads, they sound flabby and powerboat like.

e55amgrocket

The sound is because of different firing order and complete different motor all together. That's how you know when a car is coming by that has a ford or Chevy engine by the sound or atleast I can lol. I can tell you if it's a LSx motor,ford pushrod or modular motor without ever seeing the car. These Mercedes have a sound all there own.

DVC

Great point.

Didn't GM use the same firing order on the LS as the 302 Mustang? They sound completely different though. I wish an E55 could sound as good as proper Mustang LOL

e55amgrocket

The 302w actually had several different firing orders depending on different years but all sound almost the same as well as the 351w but i don't think they ever had the same as the LSx series engine. Ford always start 1-3-7 or 1-5-4 and the LSx series engines all have the same 1-8-7. The E55 engine is a 1-5-4 also but they have there own sound.

Sir-Boost-a-Lot

iTrader: (1)

Keep in mind Ford and GM label their cylinders differently so 18436572 firing order on both engines would be totally different in function.

Sir-Boost-a-Lot

iTrader: (1)

And FWIW, a claim like that fom a muffler swap is almost laughable.

Someone, for whatever reason is full to the brim with *****.

e55amgrocket

Thats the old chevy/dodge firing order. The LSx engines they decided to do the 4/7-3/2 swap.

Toadster

I've never claimed to be an expert, what experience are you referring to here?
I'm not selling anything, or sponsoring anything

lack of experience - in what? vendor bashing? oh ok you got me...

I swear, the only way to stay on topic in these forums is to continually bash someone..

emoving

Two things we know are a joke, these HP ratings on this muffler set up and todster!

Toadster

LOL gotta love emoving for consistency

djrabbi

I had a dyno on my E500 last december and had magnaflow mufflers on there. I had gained 10HP at most but when I get it re-dynoed at another place, it was 3HP lol.

All about the dyno guys

berti_00

fail

AMGPilot

Here's the thing that most forget if our stock mufflers were a restriction they would be golden in color due to the heat from the restrictions. They are not, they flow pretty damn well for stock parts

togaclk55

So muffler delete is like +50hp?

CLKCLK

Lol yes, here is the breakdown of some

Sticker: 5hp
TTM scoop: 10hp. If you like it more, it's 15 or even 20hp
And this muffler: 25hp. And if you like it, it's 50hp

Lol
Sorry)

AMGPilot

So Toadsters car should be making one MELLIIIIOOOONNNNNNN horsepower

Sir-Boost-a-Lot

iTrader: (1)

I've built 200-300 modified LS engines over the last 13 years and used to teach powertrain for GM and( and Ford for a short time) I'm very aware of their firing order
My point was that The cylinders being labeled differently between manufacturers can be misleading when comparing firing orders.
An LS1thru LS9s firing order is 18726543 and a 5.0,4.6 and cammer 5.0s are 13726548. However GM labels their cylinders starting with DS front 1357 and PS front 2468 while Ford is PS front 1234 and PS front 5678. So if you relabel the cylinders and follow the sequence, youll see that the LS does indeed share firing orders with late model Ford V8s.

I've performed many LS swaps into various non-LS chassis (mostly classics)over the years including three Mustangs. The LS swapped Mustangs sound very similar to a 5.0 Ford powered Mustang when the Ford headers and remainder of the exhaust are used. Louder (more displacement) but very similar.

AgSilver

I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell really cheap - - - or more explicitly; don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.

emoving