W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

why not twin-charged E55?

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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:54 PM
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why not twin-charged E55?

we're hearing about bigger blowers or twin turbos - but why not twincharge with the existing s/c?
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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Do a search, lots of posts on this topic
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Originally Posted by 03'55AMG
Do a search, lots of posts on this topic
hmm - I only see one thread... and it turned into a circus

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...new-build.html

btw - twincharging isn't twin-turbo

it's a turbo-fed supercharger... pretty complex, but there are some pretty complex builds here!

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some good info here...

http://www.torquecars.com/tuning/twincharging.php
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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^ go for it!
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by forcefed4door
^ go for it!
LOL - not quite made of money for that stuff

just wondering if anyone has investigated vs TT, seems you'd get the low end SC power and top end Turbo
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Toadster
LOL - not quite made of money for that stuff

just wondering if anyone has investigated vs TT, seems you'd get the low end SC power and top end Turbo

SNEAK PEEK!!!!!

FTP Electric Twin-Charge Kit....





Uses electricity to spin the turbo, freeing up massive horsepower. Simply install inline with your existing cold air intake (one for each side) and get ready to get thrown back in your seat!

Combine this with a set of free-flowing Magnaflo....er, FTP mufflers and you could see up to 1500RWHP on 87 octane fuel.





DISCLAIMER: No unicorns, gnomes or tiny forest animals were harmed during the manufacture or testing of this product.



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^^ LOL I love how they have a picture of a Ferrari interior with that thing... as well as a dyno graph
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does that thing really work? How hard is it to install?
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Originally Posted by GregMB
SNEAK PEEK!!!!!

FTP Electric Twin-Charge Kit....





Uses electricity to spin the turbo, freeing up massive horsepower. Simply install inline with your existing cold air intake (one for each side) and get ready to get thrown back in your seat!

Combine this with a set of free-flowing Magnaflo....er, FTP mufflers and you could see up to 1500RWHP on 87 octane fuel.





DISCLAIMER: No unicorns, gnomes or tiny forest animals were harmed during the manufacture or testing of this product.



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Originally Posted by GregMB
SNEAK PEEK!!!!!

FTP Electric Twin-Charge Kit....





Uses electricity to spin the turbo, freeing up massive horsepower. Simply install inline with your existing cold air intake (one for each side) and get ready to get thrown back in your seat!

Combine this with a set of free-flowing Magnaflo....er, FTP mufflers and you could see up to 1500RWHP on 87 octane fuel.





DISCLAIMER: No unicorns, gnomes or tiny forest animals were harmed during the manufacture or testing of this product.



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I just fell off the couch.
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I just fell off the couch.



but really, have you thought of the twincharge (turbo-fed S/C) route?
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Originally Posted by Toadster


but really, have you thought of the twincharge (turbo-fed S/C) route?
Yes I have. It's not the ideal route. But it will work if tuned properly. I don't have the time or patience for that.
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but really, have you thought of the twincharge (turbo-fed S/C) route?
Baby steps my man. Let get the freaking TT run first then we will talk later.
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Originally Posted by Forrest Gump 9
Baby steps my man. Let get the freaking TT run first then we will talk later.
one less turbo to purchase, a little more fab work, and probably the same amount of tuning
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Originally Posted by Toadster
one less turbo to purchase, a little more fab work, and probably the same amount of tuning
If its that easy then have at it. I'll race you when your done.
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Originally Posted by RedBullJnky
If its that easy then have at it. I'll race you when your done.
I wish! it would be a cool sound to hear the S/C spin up and also the BOV of a turbo, people would be like
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Never thought about that Todd, but you are right... I have never heard a Mercedes go "CHIRP (SC clutch) WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE (SC whine) PSTTT (BOV) and repeat four times... THAT would be sweet!
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There are some kits for this for 03-04 Cobras and GT500s. I've seen a few, and while they look badass, you can make more power with just TT. Our motors (and Cobra/GT500 motors) are big enough that you don't need massive, laggy turbos to make good power, just a set of appropriately sized twins, so having the blower for extra low end torque isn't really useful. Hell, you might want less low end torque so your car can get off the line easier!

Also, when you crank the boost & try to use those twins to their full potential, the supercharger becomes a restriction, you're better off with a good short-runner NA intake manifold. I've seen one Cobra with twins and a Kenne-Bell twin-screw to eliminate the supercharger restriction, but he lost the torque advantage of the Eaton blower, and he was only making 800-850 to the wheels, which is a joke for the work he had to go through.
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