Weistec CLK55
04-28-2013, 05:48 PM
#77
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Yes, I'm aware of that. My point is he's installing a Weistec SC which was designed for a M113K and they utilized the factory bypass in their design. That's why I'm not sure if he's using a vacuum bypass or an electronic one.
04-28-2013, 06:03 PM
#78
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Weistec made him a custom vacuum operated bypass...
See post #50 of this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/5613319-post50.html
See post #50 of this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/5613319-post50.html
04-28-2013, 06:29 PM
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I hope you're right. But their latest response is that I should ship my car there 
There is no way I'm shipping my car cross country when the agreement was for them to fly out and tune my car.
I don't know what the reason is. It's been a few weeks. There have been times where I sit at the shop all day expecting a file to be sent and get nothing. One time I even had to overnight the ecu back ($105) because the file they sent screwed something up and couldn't be remotely fixed.
I know it's a mass air car and that was made very clear before I even bought the SC. I have been talking to them for over a year about getting this. I'm not new to the platform and know the differences between E55 and CLK55. If you look at the vid above, the car starts and idles on factory tune... just idles in the 9s. The car had a Kleemann SC for over 5 years WITH a bypass valve and ran fine as can be seen by the many 1/4 mile passes the car has made as well as many street mile logged.
Bingo! 
Agreed on the bypass valve. There is no boost at idle so this is irrelevant for until we start tuning for more than just idle lol
You are correct, it does idle "normal" with factory tune just extremely rich because the injectors are MUCH larger. Therefore it is not a manifold leak but something in the files they have sent thus far.
It is the same as stock.
Correct again! Who tuned your car for the bigger injectors?
I've posted that Weistec made a vacuum controlled bypass.
It does not come with a factory SC and does not have an electronically controlled bypass. Nobody is disputing that. My car ran for years with a Kleemann SC and ran 10.5 on pump gas about 3 years ago. I know my way around the car. It worked great with the vacuum bypass valve as do many other Kleemann sc cars.
Not that it matters but I also have a E55k
Again, I'm using vacuum bypass.
This guy knows what he' talking about and has been paying attention
There is no way I'm shipping my car cross country when the agreement was for them to fly out and tune my car. Probably because its a Mass air car vs speed density like the E55. Alot of things need to be calibrated and tuned to get it to idle. Along with the fact that the car never had a bypass valve before. The bypass is essentially what controls idle in combination with the TB.
The bypass valve is vacuum activated so that is a non issue unless they have the vacuum source in the wrong location or the electronic throttle body is faulty. The bypass valve is not controlled like the electronic clutch in an E55K. With the bypass valve, it closes when the vacuum goes away and opens when there is a vacuum. The source for the vacuum is typically just on the engine side of the throttlebody.
MAF's are easier to tune than MAP based sensors so that should not be an issue with the idle. In fact, it should idle as normal with the supercharger on top unless there is a leak in the manifold which is probably what is happening.
MAF's are easier to tune than MAP based sensors so that should not be an issue with the idle. In fact, it should idle as normal with the supercharger on top unless there is a leak in the manifold which is probably what is happening.
You are correct, it does idle "normal" with factory tune just extremely rich because the injectors are MUCH larger. Therefore it is not a manifold leak but something in the files they have sent thus far.
It is the same as stock.
Not that it matters but I also have a E55k
Weistec made him a custom vacuum operated bypass...
See post #50 of this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/5613319-post50.html
See post #50 of this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/5613319-post50.html
04-28-2013, 07:09 PM
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OK, so it idles but is way too rich. Seems like it is a simple fix. Sounds like they just need to recalibrate the ECU tune for the larger injectors.
I would put a time limit on their response and try to dispute the CC charges then go to someone else for the tune. However, it is a catch 22 if something goes wrong. They will say it was not their tune and leave you footing the bill for any future issues. Either way, they are putting you in a bad position by being slow to unresponsive.
I would put a time limit on their response and try to dispute the CC charges then go to someone else for the tune. However, it is a catch 22 if something goes wrong. They will say it was not their tune and leave you footing the bill for any future issues. Either way, they are putting you in a bad position by being slow to unresponsive.
04-28-2013, 08:22 PM
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Companies often seem most eager when they sell you the product and a lot less eager when problems arise. Hopefully they'll fly out and get you taken care of, well hopefully they have the knowledge to get you taken care of.
04-28-2013, 08:37 PM
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04-29-2013, 10:55 AM
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Who HASN'T tuned my car....
-HPS (Jessie)
-Gato Racing (Felix Modena)
-LET (Wayne and Tony)
-and a revised Wayne tune by Jerry (Eurocharged) which was the best thus far.
My car should be arriving in Huston Texas (Eurocharged) as I type.
I'm hoping Jerry can tune her and put an end to my 2.5 year saga... He's the only one left in the business I trust.
I'll keep you posted.
-HPS (Jessie)
-Gato Racing (Felix Modena)
-LET (Wayne and Tony)
-and a revised Wayne tune by Jerry (Eurocharged) which was the best thus far.
My car should be arriving in Huston Texas (Eurocharged) as I type.
I'm hoping Jerry can tune her and put an end to my 2.5 year saga... He's the only one left in the business I trust.
I'll keep you posted.
04-29-2013, 04:44 PM
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Weistec HaS Said They Will FlY Out To Tune The Car But Haven't Given A Date Yet
Good Luck!
Who HASN'T tuned my car....
-HPS (Jessie)
-Gato Racing (Felix Modena)
-LET (Wayne and Tony)
-and a revised Wayne tune by Jerry (Eurocharged) which was the best thus far.
My car should be arriving in Huston Texas (Eurocharged) as I type.
I'm hoping Jerry can tune her and put an end to my 2.5 year saga... He's the only one left in the business I trust.
I'll keep you posted.
-HPS (Jessie)
-Gato Racing (Felix Modena)
-LET (Wayne and Tony)
-and a revised Wayne tune by Jerry (Eurocharged) which was the best thus far.
My car should be arriving in Huston Texas (Eurocharged) as I type.
I'm hoping Jerry can tune her and put an end to my 2.5 year saga... He's the only one left in the business I trust.
I'll keep you posted.
04-29-2013, 05:11 PM
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04-29-2013, 05:26 PM
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Glad to hear, I'm sure this is something that requires alot of patience from everyone involved. However with the price tag one would like to think it could be resolved quickly. I'm guessing when your dealing with older software it becomes harder to manipulate only whats needed without it affecting anything else. At the same time the fear of a mistake is on everyone's minds. Car guys are being forced to become computer geeks in order to get everything to do what it capable of doing. For example what good is a strong athlete with no coordination? He's got a badass build with a ton of beefy parts to put down the power. He's gotta give them a chance and its nice to hear they are due to come out. Good luck!! Along with many others I can't wait to see what this thing can do.
04-29-2013, 10:01 PM
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Thanks for taking the plunge BB. I'm too chicken to be a pioneer with this high-$$ platform.... I am willing to blatantly copy a good setup 
Can't wait to see some numbers and vids. It will be worth it.
Can't wait to see some numbers and vids. It will be worth it.
05-03-2013, 11:12 PM
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05-05-2013, 09:59 AM
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Thanks, I Can't Wait To See What It DOes Too
Haha I Like To Blaze The Path Not Traveled
Nope. Still Haven't Been Given A Date
Glad to hear, I'm sure this is something that requires alot of patience from everyone involved. However with the price tag one would like to think it could be resolved quickly. I'm guessing when your dealing with older software it becomes harder to manipulate only whats needed without it affecting anything else. At the same time the fear of a mistake is on everyone's minds. Car guys are being forced to become computer geeks in order to get everything to do what it capable of doing. For example what good is a strong athlete with no coordination? He's got a badass build with a ton of beefy parts to put down the power. He's gotta give them a chance and its nice to hear they are due to come out. Good luck!! Along with many others I can't wait to see what this thing can do.
Nope. Still Haven't Been Given A Date
05-06-2013, 06:51 AM
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05-13-2013, 09:48 AM
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Wouldn't be me, I'll tell you that much. For that amount of money, they should have a box tune (that works) ready. This is actually kind of stupid at this point. Waiting this long with no ending in sight.
05-13-2013, 08:11 PM
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05-13-2013, 08:26 PM
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Ahhhh don't say that or else all the supporters of Weistec will jump..oh well they did it already once
But Weistec is a sponsor here and shoud be held accountable for not keeping their word or just refund BB
But Weistec is a sponsor here and shoud be held accountable for not keeping their word or just refund BB
05-13-2013, 08:39 PM
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Wiestec sure isn't trying to resolve this. If they can't tune it, then just say so and give the man his money back. If they think they can, then they need to set a date and do it already.
It seems that the only ones that can get anything from Wiestec are the 63 guys.
