W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Upgraded drop and plug fuel PUMP?

Old Aug 9, 2013 | 08:17 PM
  #1  
jcjmw's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,719
Likes: 12
From: West
2005 E55 Wagon
Upgraded drop and plug fuel PUMP?

There has to be some members that upgraded our oem dual fuel pumps.....right? If you have, can you chime in and share the info?
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2013 | 10:33 PM
  #2  
Forrest Gump 9's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,190
Likes: 35
shrimp boat
You can take the fuel pumps (passenger side) out and upgrade to the 320lph pumps. This mods is courtesy of Craig .
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2013 | 11:13 PM
  #3  
cij911's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,879
Likes: 22
From: Orange County, CA.
one car at a time
Why not just run a large Weldon or the like , coupled with a larger feed line, connected to a looped rail and a return line ??
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2013 | 11:21 PM
  #4  
Sir-Boost-a-Lot's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,092
Likes: 29
From: Orlando
1967 Pro Touring turbo LSX Camaro
Because it sounds like a 1" drive electric drill running at full speed under your car

Originally Posted by cij911
Why not just run a large Weldon or the like , coupled with a larger feed line, connected to a looped rail and a return line ??
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2013 | 11:24 PM
  #5  
cij911's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,879
Likes: 22
From: Orange County, CA.
one car at a time
^^ I would think if noise was a concern, one could put the pump in a sound deadened enclosure....Then again, anyone that needs this mod probably does not care about NVH...
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2013 | 02:29 AM
  #6  
jcjmw's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,719
Likes: 12
From: West
2005 E55 Wagon
Originally Posted by cij911
Why not just run a large Weldon or the like , coupled with a larger feed line, connected to a looped rail and a return line ??
I appreciate the response but the idea is not realistic. The idea sounds easy but its not doable without major work and other mods. I am looking for a drop in higher pressure fuel pump. Somebody has to have done this...I am assuming.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2013 | 04:41 AM
  #7  
cm60k's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,053
Likes: 398
From: A.D., U.A.E
2000 (W202 C200) & 2000 (W202 C55)
I heard that the R230 SL55/63/65, uses a high power pump, not sure if someone install it,

cause its an external not internal pump....!?!

ZAYED,,
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2013 | 06:46 AM
  #8  
chawkins2001's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,659
Likes: 68
From: Atlanta
2006 E55 AMG
I went with dual 340lph aeromotive pumps.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 10, 2013 | 08:34 AM
  #9  
cij911's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,879
Likes: 22
From: Orange County, CA.
one car at a time
Originally Posted by jcjmw
I appreciate the response but the idea is not realistic. The idea sounds easy but its not doable without major work and other mods. I am looking for a drop in higher pressure fuel pump. Somebody has to have done this...I am assuming.
The only hard part would be the return line routing (and that is not hard).

If you just want more pressure and flow, you could just add an external pump and use the stock pumps as primer pumps, as long as they still work.

Or you could remove the stock pumps entirely and use an external pump.

There are a few safety precautions that you would want to take, but it should be fairly easy.

That said if two 340lph pumps can be fitted easily, then that seems like a great route too - especially if you can use easy to change filters vs. the OEM crap.

Craig - would you please post more information on the pumps you are using, mounting, and filtration ? There are two aeromotive 340 lph models, one with a center inlet and one with offset.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2013 | 10:12 AM
  #10  
Exotic-metal55's Avatar
PLATINUM SPONSOR
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,834
Likes: 65
From: Texas
2003 CL55
I use duel bosch 44 external pumps and 8an line that feeds into duel 6an linesgoing to each rail side. One stock intank pump feeds the duel bosch 44 and they are fitted to a fuel manifold to eliminate surge starvation.

With our aluminum frames, you have to really insulate all pumps and make sure nothing that vibrates can touch the frame or it will sound like your in the pump station at the hoover dam.
__________________



E63 Biturbo, UPD Cold Air induction kit, UPD performance crank pulley and UPD adjustable rear suspension with ride height adjustment.

CL55 UPD Cold Air Boost kit, UPD 3000 stall converter, UPD 77mm SC clutched pulley and beltwrap kit, Custom long tubes, UPD crank pulley , UPD suspension kit, UPD SC pulley, Aux. HE, Trunk tank w/rule 2000 pump, Mezeire pump, UPD 5pc idler set, Aluminum rotor hats.

www.ultimatepd.com
instagram @ultimate_pd
facebook.com/ultimatepd
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2013 | 01:56 PM
  #11  
jcjmw's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,719
Likes: 12
From: West
2005 E55 Wagon
Originally Posted by chawkins2001
I went with dual 340lph aeromotive pumps.
Is it drop in, plug it and thats it or was there more to it?
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2013 | 02:37 PM
  #12  
chawkins2001's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,659
Likes: 68
From: Atlanta
2006 E55 AMG
It was part number 11140 aeromotive fuel pump. Pretty much plug and play from what I remember.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2013 | 03:09 PM
  #13  
jcjmw's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,719
Likes: 12
From: West
2005 E55 Wagon
Originally Posted by chawkins2001
It was part number 11140 aeromotive fuel pump. Pretty much plug and play from what I remember.
Thanks for th info.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2013 | 10:47 PM
  #14  
thunderclaps's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 132
Likes: 1
From: Tucson AZ
E55 AMG, 04STI, 07GTI, 05 HAYABUSA, 05 GSX1000
Has anyone replced the driver side fuel pump? I already fool the tank's pressure system with a map(2.3v) sensor wired to it. I would be nice to install 3 walbro's 420. I am actually working on it.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 02:31 AM
  #15  
Denroll's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,279
Likes: 27
From: A to the Z (the state)
'06 E55
Originally Posted by thunderclaps
Has anyone replced the driver side fuel pump? I already fool the tank's pressure system with a map(2.3v) sensor wired to it. I would be nice to install 3 walbro's 420. I am actually working on it.
I'm moving to your neighborhoodn soon... Well, close enough. Sierra Vista.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 02:35 AM
  #16  
thunderclaps's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 132
Likes: 1
From: Tucson AZ
E55 AMG, 04STI, 07GTI, 05 HAYABUSA, 05 GSX1000
Good, 45 minutes away. Hit me up, we can do cars and coffe, euro meet track etc. You will end up driving to Tucson for 90% of the car events anyway.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 01:54 PM
  #17  
groove66's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 230
Likes: 1
From: Santa Monica
2005 e55
Originally Posted by thunderclaps
Has anyone replced the driver side fuel pump? I already fool the tank's pressure system with a map(2.3v) sensor wired to it. I would be nice to install 3 walbro's 420. I am actually working on it.

drivers side is the sender not the pumps... I just did it the other day. I am surprised that nobody has went to a 1/2 aluminum fuel line from the tank to the front of the car.

and after looking at the sender it has 4 lines coming off it in the tank. 2 lines from the pumps that go into a "Y". A return line ,which is every bit of 1/2" and a 4th which i am not sure of it function.

It seems if you were to get some submersible fuel lines you can make the fuel lines coming off the pump and into the "y" a little larger diameter.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 05:10 PM
  #18  
thunderclaps's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 132
Likes: 1
From: Tucson AZ
E55 AMG, 04STI, 07GTI, 05 HAYABUSA, 05 GSX1000
Originally Posted by groove66
drivers side is the sender not the pumps... I just did it the other day. I am surprised that nobody has went to a 1/2 aluminum fuel line from the tank to the front of the car.

and after looking at the sender it has 4 lines coming off it in the tank. 2 lines from the pumps that go into a "Y". A return line ,which is every bit of 1/2" and a 4th which i am not sure of it function.

It seems if you were to get some submersible fuel lines you can make the fuel lines coming off the pump and into the "y" a little larger diameter.
The driver side sender unit has a fuel pump, a fuel pressure regulator, a fuel vapor pressure sensor and a filter. The 4th line is the pressure relive. I am trying to figure out if the fuel pressure is constant or variable by psi like my turbo cars. Adding a return line and an external fpr would make the drop in pumps very effective.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 07:23 PM
  #19  
jcjmw's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,719
Likes: 12
From: West
2005 E55 Wagon
Originally Posted by chawkins2001
I went with dual 340lph aeromotive pumps.
It looks like Chawkins has the answer? I pm BIP to see if they know or maybe offer a plug and play upgraded fuel pump.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 07:58 PM
  #20  
thunderclaps's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 132
Likes: 1
From: Tucson AZ
E55 AMG, 04STI, 07GTI, 05 HAYABUSA, 05 GSX1000
Cool keep us posted. The passenger side pumps are pretty simple. Aeromotive or walbros should fit.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 08:35 PM
  #21  
groove66's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 230
Likes: 1
From: Santa Monica
2005 e55
Originally Posted by thunderclaps
The driver side sender unit has a fuel pump, a fuel pressure regulator, a fuel vapor pressure sensor and a filter. The 4th line is the pressure relive. I am trying to figure out if the fuel pressure is constant or variable by psi like my turbo cars. Adding a return line and an external fpr would make the drop in pumps very effective.

so there is 3 pumps? the power plug on the driver side plug is 2 small 18gauge wires and is for the level sensor..3rd wire is for ground. and the 2nd plug the pressure sensor.. the pass side has the main power for the fuel pumps and the wires go directly to the pumps and is some 10guage wire. I was thinking the 4th hose on the sender is the tank level equalizer cause of the hump in the tank.

The drivers side does have a fuel pressure regulator



so there is a fuel pump inside. here is one taken apart. it looks more like just a filter..

Last edited by groove66; Aug 11, 2013 at 08:47 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 08:56 PM
  #22  
thunderclaps's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 132
Likes: 1
From: Tucson AZ
E55 AMG, 04STI, 07GTI, 05 HAYABUSA, 05 GSX1000
There's a 3rd pump. Those pics are probably from an e500. My harness has more wires attached.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 09:16 PM
  #23  
groove66's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 230
Likes: 1
From: Santa Monica
2005 e55
nope e55. I work on these cars on a daily. And I just did one on my car on monday..I am very familiar with the setup..

here is a thread
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ation-diy.html
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 09:25 PM
  #24  
thunderclaps's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 132
Likes: 1
From: Tucson AZ
E55 AMG, 04STI, 07GTI, 05 HAYABUSA, 05 GSX1000
That's even better. I was looking at a diagram that shows a 3rd pump. If it has just 2 we can do a y and an fitting outlet. With external filter.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 09:28 PM
  #25  
jcjmw's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,719
Likes: 12
From: West
2005 E55 Wagon
Originally Posted by groove66
nope e55. I work on these cars on a daily. And I just did one on my car on monday..I am very familiar with the setup..

here is a thread
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ation-diy.html
The pic in post 48 is very interesting. It shows the 2 pumps. It lools, looks like you can upgrade it with a higher flow pump, a plug and play.
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 3 votes, 5.00 average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:29 PM.

story-0
7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

Slideshow: Sometimes AMG builds fast sedans. Other times, it builds twin-turbo V12 land missiles and six-wheeled off-road monsters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 17:59:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-4
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE