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sorry for reviving the thread but is there any updates on which belt is better for (all stock pulleys) stock is 1289mm in length and the Gates K080510HD is 1294mm and Gates K080505HD is 1282mm so should I go for the 505 or 510? is bigger then stock better or a little bit smaller then stock? I don't want the belt to fly off lol... any updates would be nice.
Thanks
+1 I was thinking the same exact thing. You might want to contact who u bought it from to see if they can help .
To all with the M113k engine...... Get the gates Green HD belt, Get the belt Wrap Kit, you will gain at least 3psi & about 40hp over stock HP and even more with a tune, I have a stage 2 tune on a CL with 650hp/670 Torque and I eat a steady well balanced diet of Lamborghini’s, bmw’s, corvettes & srt8’s for the most part, occasionally I snack on Porsche’s....
To all with the M113k engine...... Get the gates Green HD belt, Get the belt Wrap Kit, you will gain at least 3psi & about 40hp over stock HP and even more with a tune, I have a stage 2 tune on a CL with 650hp/670 Torque and I eat a steady well balanced diet of Lamborghini’s, bmw’s, corvettes & srt8’s for the most part, occasionally I snack on Porsche’s....
Your car is making no where near 650 whp,unless your praising crank number to boost your ego,
To all with the M113k engine...... Get the gates Green HD belt, Get the belt Wrap Kit, you will gain at least 3psi & about 40hp over stock HP and even more with a tune, I have a stage 2 tune on a CL with 650hp/670 Torque and I eat a steady well balanced diet of Lamborghini’s, bmw’s, corvettes & srt8’s for the most part, occasionally I snack on Porsche’s....
Your car is making no where near 650 whp,unless your praising crank number to boost your ego,
In a world full of hate, I thought we all as men that have enjoyed relative success in life and have a common interest in cars we enjoy, could simply enjoy a conversation about making our cars even better and enjoying them even more, but there’s always a hater in the bunch talking about ego’s, when the fact is that you can get an $800 stage 2 ECU tune to go from stock to 580hp, better air intake & larger throttle body gets you to 600hp, headers 620hp, belt wrap kit (with green belt) adding 2-3 supercharger psi = 650hp. It’s the least expensive most reliable way to 650hp so either appreciate the insight I’m sharing & experience & enjoy it or hate on it.... Either way my ego is doing lovely & hey, she’ll like it to!!!! Lol.... (I hit 180mph when this phone was taken, on my way to 220mph)
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180-220mph range is Impossible for a CL 55 without 600+hp, so get the belt wrap kit, get the green belt & get the right ECU tune..... or be a “oneslow55”!!! Before belt wrap kit After belt wrap kit Please just move to the right..... Just kidding, we should all tour together & have lunch & car show somewhere fancy!!!
Last edited by Mr Williams; Jan 8, 2021 at 06:08 PM.
Your car is making no where near 650 whp,unless your praising crank number to boost your ego,
[img]blob:https://mbworld.org/e926537f-334f-4df3-82bd-76a32b737458[/img] 180mph on my way to 230mph with 650hp/670 torque, proof positive of proper ego integrity..... Lol
Last edited by Mr Williams; Jan 8, 2021 at 05:52 PM.
Reason: Life is about what you can prove, not what you say or think.....
[img]blob:https://mbworld.org/e926537f-334f-4df3-82bd-76a32b737458[/img] 180mph on my way to 230mph with 650hp/670 torque, proof positive of proper ego integrity..... Lol
I did 180 mph on my CL55 too just needed a bit more runway for 200 lol
I did 180 mph on my CL55 too just needed a bit more runway for 200 lol
I hit 230+ but couldn’t photograph it at those speeds.... Lol
and you’re are exactly right, you need a clear 4 mile stretch or high banked curves to be safe...
and no stock it can reach 160 thats the limiter trust me I tried it before I got the tune, but after the tune I hit 180 before my highway exit came up.
Your right ,I'm hatting on your nice drip job valve covers..FYi, these cars stock hit 200 mph..
Do this for us slap on a dyno and post your sheet.
What I’ll do for you sir (aka:oneslow55), since you’ve been “so polite”, is to remind you that the word “Hating” has only one “t” & that I already said I hit 230mph not 200mph, I own businesses so I couldn’t possibly work for you, so it’s cute that you think I’d ever feel burdened to prove anything to you, especially given your baseless arrogance on a otherwise friendly chat thread, so just do you & keep the hate to yourself. On the other side of the coin, it’s been a pleasure chatting with you “MartinWake” I look forward to conversing with you again.
Last edited by Mr Williams; Jan 9, 2021 at 09:12 AM.
and no stock it can reach 160 thats the limiter trust me I tried it before I got the tune, but after the tune I hit 180 before my highway exit came up.
MartinWake, looks like you have a great ECU tune at about 580 crank HP/490 hp whp!!!! Have u already added the belt wrap kit??? I’d also suggest headers & a 82mm throttle body. My tune shop warned against going with a small supercharger pulley because anything below 80mm causes various overheating problems....
MartinWake, looks like you have a great ECU tune at about 580 crank HP/490 hp whp!!!! Have u already added the belt wrap kit??? I’d also suggest headers & a 82mm throttle body. My tune shop warned against going with a small supercharger pulley because anything below 80mm causes various overheating problems....
Yeah I am looking to go with a 76mm pulley after I add another heat exchanger, remember that the CL's have a bigger stock heat exchanger then the e class so if I add another one at the bottom I will have two heat exchangers. Like a stock s class. I cannot find any headers that would fit the cl55. I do not have a belt wrap kit yet.
Man.....wish this thread came along years ago. Had I known all I need was a belt wrap kit from the beginning to go 230mph I would have got that first and skipped all the rest through the years.
Martin I still say do your home work , pull the stock exchanger out and put a custom one in .....it's cheaper than you think. Mine was 125.00 off Ebay plus welding / rewelding of fittings and making it a double pass. You will thank yourself in the future when your moving up in power.
You will tie the car up for a while though during the fab process.
Man.....wish this thread came along years ago. Had I known all I need was a belt wrap kit from the beginning to go 230mph I would have got that first and skipped all the rest through the years.
Martin I still say do your home work , pull the stock exchanger out and put a custom one in .....it's cheaper than you think. Mine was 125.00 off Ebay plus welding / rewelding of fittings and making it a double pass. You will thank yourself in the future when your moving up in power.
You will tie the car up for a while though during the fab process.
You’d need a stage 2 tune from the right tuner, 82mm throttle body, (80mm or less supercharger pulley is an optional shortcut to significant power increase, but you loose cooling and risk a shorter supercharger life expectancy), headers and a belt wrap kit. The stock set up is designed for the supercharger belt to only cover 40% of the supercharger pulley and so there is a lot of slippage at load or during heavy acceleration, the belt wrap kit covers 80% of the supercharger pulley and increases the supercharger psi by 3-4psi and 1psi=14hp X 3 = about 38-40hp and no belt slippage on the supercharger, do all this and you’ll see what the car is really capable of, which is what I’ve chosen to share with everyone, since the corona virus is killing off folks in record numbers, have as much safe fun as you can, as soon as you can!!!
MartinWake, don’t even think about a 76mm supercharger pulley without a belt wrap kit, believe me, you are already loosing so much supercharger psi & power with your current stock pulley & belt, a 76mm pulley will only increase your HP if your belt isn’t slipping, which it definitely will without the belt wrap kit!!!!
Last edited by Mr Williams; Jan 9, 2021 at 09:20 AM.
and no stock it can reach 160 thats the limiter trust me I tried it before I got the tune, but after the tune I hit 180 before my highway exit came up.
Was for the other guy,but note the ,limter removed it will hit 200 mph stock..limter can be removed with star and no tune needed,
Yeah I am looking to go with a 76mm pulley after I add another heat exchanger, remember that the CL's have a bigger stock heat exchanger then the e class so if I add another one at the bottom I will have two heat exchangers. Like a stock s class. I cannot find any headers that would fit the cl55. I do not have a belt wrap kit yet.
I have a 77 mm upd like new for sale maybe ,it has maybe 10 miles on it tops.
Also you don't need a bwk if you setup your pulleys proper and use a correct belt..Slip happnes at times for other reasons and bwk on these cars suck.
Last edited by oneslow55; Jan 9, 2021 at 11:23 AM.
[QUOTE=Mr Williams;8243235]You’d need a stage 2 tune from the right tuner, 82mm throttle body, (80mm or less supercharger pulley is an optional shortcut to significant power increase, but you loose cooling and risk a shorter supercharger life expectancy), headers and a belt wrap kit. The stock set up is designed for the supercharger belt to only cover 40% of the supercharger pulley and so there is a lot of slippage at load or during heavy acceleration, the belt wrap kit covers 80% of the supercharger pulley and increases the supercharger psi by 3-4psi and 1psi=14hp X 3 = about 38-40hp and no belt slippage on the supercharger, do all this and you’ll see what the car is really capable of, which is what I’ve chosen to share with everyone, since the corona virus is killing off folks in record numbers, have as much safe fun as you can, as soon as you can!!!
So wait a minute......I need to get this done before I die from corona?? Oooh boy I better get started on modding the car.
I'm not sue I can get to 230mph because it's only geared to go to 200. I will for sure need help from fellow forum members to do this as I have never done any modifications before !!
And this belt wrap kit sounds like a sure thing and will have to shop around to see who sells these.
Man.....wish this thread came along years ago. Had I known all I need was a belt wrap kit from the beginning to go 230mph I would have got that first and skipped all the rest through the years.
Martin I still say do your home work , pull the stock exchanger out and put a custom one in .....it's cheaper than you think. Mine was 125.00 off Ebay plus welding / rewelding of fittings and making it a double pass. You will thank yourself in the future when your moving up in power.
You will tie the car up for a while though during the fab process.
As I said before I have a CL not an e class why would I remove my stock exchanger its literally impossible its behind other rads and its used for support take a look at this video where I compare my CL heat exchanger to an S55 which has two heat exchangers thats the set up I am going for
MartinWake, don’t even think about a 76mm supercharger pulley without a belt wrap kit, believe me, you are already loosing so much supercharger psi & power with your current stock pulley & belt, a 76mm pulley will only increase your HP if your belt isn’t slipping, which it definitely will without the belt wrap kit!!!!
I know, I need to get the belt wrap kit before the pulley.
If you go to transmission specs and check out 5th gear it could be possible, I have seen a e55 do 198 mph in 4th gear on a dyno so maybe 5th gear could reach it?
With my car I have seen it reach 51 mph in first gear before it shifted maybe these numbers are a little off but not by much.
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