New: FSP Pulley Review with EC Tune 2.0 (Jerry/Brooke/Shardul)
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so if you already have the clutch pulley with the eurocharged tune and you buy the fixed pulley is eurocharged still charging full price for the fixed pulley tune?it's looks like the tune is an extra $250 when you buy the pulley.$250 seems like a lot for just an "off the shelf" file being sent to you.
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so if you already have the clutch pulley with the eurocharged tune and you buy the fixed pulley is eurocharged still charging full price for the fixed pulley tune?it's looks like the tune is an extra $250 when you buy the pulley.$250 seems like a lot for just an "off the shelf" file being sent to you.
Its a completely different product than our regular tuning offering.
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don't get me wrong,i know you guys put in a lot of work and many hours to get this tune to work.i just thought that if someone already has the v2 cable maybe it would be a little less.since you guys sell the cable for $100 i was hoping for something like pulley/tune file for $550 for people that already have the cable.
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Thanks for the review! 
I also experience the "c'mon clutch, engage already!" I've been on the fence of even modding for performance, but your guys' reviews have got me considering jumping into it! 
BTW, does the fixed pulley cause S/C whine at idle?
If you're on the fence about this mod, buy the pulley/tune combo now and try it out. Keep your old clutched pulley around in case you want to go back (you won't want to). The way the tuning works, you can upload your own tunes. Swapping the pulleys is pretty quick, so going back and forth can be done in 30 minutes or less, including the reflash.
BTW, does the fixed pulley cause S/C whine at idle?
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don't get me wrong,i know you guys put in a lot of work and many hours to get this tune to work.i just thought that if someone already has the v2 cable maybe it would be a little less.since you guys sell the cable for $100 i was hoping for something like pulley/tune file for $550 for people that already have the cable.
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don't get me wrong,i know you guys put in a lot of work and many hours to get this tune to work.i just thought that if someone already has the v2 cable maybe it would be a little less.since you guys sell the cable for $100 i was hoping for something like pulley/tune file for $550 for people that already have the cable.
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Yes, video is sideways..
As I hit record, I asked myself a bunch of questions:
Why am I doing this?
Umm...
Is there anything in it for me?
NO
So what is the purpose?
To show people how it works on the forum, and be a nice guy
But wait, didn't we just offer an independent review X 2?
Yes
So why a video?
Because people need "proof"
Is it my responsibility to provide proof to people that don't or can't believe an honest, unbiased review of a product?
No
In the end, I realized the following: Shardul and Jerry have been wonderful contributors to the forum and our platform in general. Helping to show real world experience helps those who have helped us.
I was at peace in my warped mind.. for a moment, then I was cut off... !!
11 minutes remaining for the **** video
As I hit record, I asked myself a bunch of questions:
Why am I doing this?
Umm...
Is there anything in it for me?
NO
So what is the purpose?
To show people how it works on the forum, and be a nice guy
But wait, didn't we just offer an independent review X 2?
Yes
So why a video?
Because people need "proof"
Is it my responsibility to provide proof to people that don't or can't believe an honest, unbiased review of a product?
No
In the end, I realized the following: Shardul and Jerry have been wonderful contributors to the forum and our platform in general. Helping to show real world experience helps those who have helped us.
I was at peace in my warped mind.. for a moment, then I was cut off... !!
11 minutes remaining for the **** video
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See, Brooke thinks I left him out of my "These guys are great" speech, But I had actually reserved a separate post just for Brooke.
For those of you who do not know the Houston crew, you are missing out. Brooke has more knowledge about these cars than probably anyone on the forum (or the face of the earth for that matter). I don't know many guys that have spare motors in their living room for study!
When Denroll blew his motor on a cross-country trip, Shardul, Brooke, and Jerry went to extraordinary measures to get him on the road, and that is no small task: New engine, race heads, custom tune, all while Denroll served our country, and countless hookers in New Orleans.
These guys answer questions, help with parts, provide tech support, all for the betterment of the Forum, the forum members, and platform.
The FSP and associated tune is a result of truly countless hours that I had nothing to do with. I just watched, and when it was ready: I got it.
As I mentioned, even though we all owe these guys a huge debt of gratitude, especially Brooke, our reviews of this product are genuine. As with any groundbreaking change, there are bumps, but this is simply baddass.. period.
Thanks Brooke!!!
For those of you who do not know the Houston crew, you are missing out. Brooke has more knowledge about these cars than probably anyone on the forum (or the face of the earth for that matter). I don't know many guys that have spare motors in their living room for study!
When Denroll blew his motor on a cross-country trip, Shardul, Brooke, and Jerry went to extraordinary measures to get him on the road, and that is no small task: New engine, race heads, custom tune, all while Denroll served our country, and countless hookers in New Orleans.
These guys answer questions, help with parts, provide tech support, all for the betterment of the Forum, the forum members, and platform.
The FSP and associated tune is a result of truly countless hours that I had nothing to do with. I just watched, and when it was ready: I got it.
As I mentioned, even though we all owe these guys a huge debt of gratitude, especially Brooke, our reviews of this product are genuine. As with any groundbreaking change, there are bumps, but this is simply baddass.. period.
Thanks Brooke!!!
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Originally Posted by MAN55LE
Quote:
So no discount on the new FSP and tune bundle package ..... This almost made it seem like we were allowed to apply the 10% to the discounted fix supercharger pulley and tune? Sorry I'm a mutant and didn't know if we could apply it to this
Quote:
So no discount on the new FSP and tune bundle package ..... This almost made it seem like we were allowed to apply the 10% to the discounted fix supercharger pulley and tune? Sorry I'm a mutant and didn't know if we could apply it to this
$650- $65(10%) = $585
Jake just responded and.....
works on the fsp deal...
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But yeah, my situation could have been so much worse. The whole crew was awesome. Can't forget Scott who drove his truck to Austin just to tow my car back to Houston. He wouldn't even accept gas money!
I sent Brooke and Shardul some shell casings from our 30mm guns. Makes a neat little paperweight.
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So with this pulley ... since the clutch can no longer disengage to cut boost, does one loose the safety net of the car being able to limit boost if the IATs get too high? or will the ECU have the ability to open the bypass valve and bleed boost?
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I got the 80 to go with my 175 crank pulley. Insanity level dialed down just ever so slightly from the wagon-wheel 190 on his car. My biggest concern is with IATs... wait, no it isn't, I have meth. But yeah, the cruising IATs I am curious about. Right now, I see typically 15-20 degrees over ambient, sometimes a few degrizzles higher.
Although if your car the car is making full boost at low rpms because of the FSP pulley, then you kit is spraying the full goodness at those same rpms... does that make sense?
Last edited by Kelvin07; Oct 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM.
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Guys,
I have the Zeitronix IAT and MAP sensors... where should I place them?, I understand it like this:
MAP sensor: Surge tank
IAT sensor: ???
Please advise...
I have the Zeitronix IAT and MAP sensors... where should I place them?, I understand it like this:
MAP sensor: Surge tank
IAT sensor: ???
Please advise...
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See, Brooke thinks I left him out of my "These guys are great" speech, But I had actually reserved a separate post just for Brooke.
For those of you who do not know the Houston crew, you are missing out. Brooke has more knowledge about these cars than probably anyone on the forum (or the face of the earth for that matter). I don't know many guys that have spare motors in their living room for study!
When Denroll blew his motor on a cross-country trip, Shardul, Brooke, and Jerry went to extraordinary measures to get him on the road, and that is no small task: New engine, race heads, custom tune, all while Denroll served our country, and countless hookers in New Orleans.
These guys answer questions, help with parts, provide tech support, all for the betterment of the Forum, the forum members, and platform.
The FSP and associated tune is a result of truly countless hours that I had nothing to do with. I just watched, and when it was ready: I got it.
As I mentioned, even though we all owe these guys a huge debt of gratitude, especially Brooke, our reviews of this product are genuine. As with any groundbreaking change, there are bumps, but this is simply baddass.. period.
Thanks Brooke!!!
For those of you who do not know the Houston crew, you are missing out. Brooke has more knowledge about these cars than probably anyone on the forum (or the face of the earth for that matter). I don't know many guys that have spare motors in their living room for study!
When Denroll blew his motor on a cross-country trip, Shardul, Brooke, and Jerry went to extraordinary measures to get him on the road, and that is no small task: New engine, race heads, custom tune, all while Denroll served our country, and countless hookers in New Orleans.
These guys answer questions, help with parts, provide tech support, all for the betterment of the Forum, the forum members, and platform.
The FSP and associated tune is a result of truly countless hours that I had nothing to do with. I just watched, and when it was ready: I got it.
As I mentioned, even though we all owe these guys a huge debt of gratitude, especially Brooke, our reviews of this product are genuine. As with any groundbreaking change, there are bumps, but this is simply baddass.. period.
Thanks Brooke!!!
After what happened to me with rip off/Bruce@TTM. I have been very lucky to deal with Brooke, he is my go-to guy for EVERY mod.
Guys like Denroll, Bramage, Shardul, Brooke, always willing help out and go the extra mile for fellow members, thank you boys, I mean that.
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Bramage, I like how your Dashdaq looks there, how did you run the wires from your Zeitronix to your Dashdaq? (because I didn't see one!)
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Its plug and play between these two devices.
Boost sensor goes in Surge Tank
I take IAT from OBDII, but if you have one, you could also put that in the surge tank. You will only see one side, but as the charge air is shared, there should never be a difference between sides
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If you order the Dashdaq and Zeitronix together, it should come with the cable in upper right "ZT-2 Cable:
Its plug and play between these two devices.
Boost sensor goes in Surge Tank
I take IAT from OBDII, but if you have one, you could also put that in the surge tank. You will only see one side, but as the charge air is shared, there should never be a difference between sides
Its plug and play between these two devices.
Boost sensor goes in Surge Tank
I take IAT from OBDII, but if you have one, you could also put that in the surge tank. You will only see one side, but as the charge air is shared, there should never be a difference between sides
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A few others have asked as well .... do you lose the safety feature of the SC disengaging if IATs get too high ?
So if I want this mod I can no longer use my current custom OE tune ?
This mod sounds bad *** and I want it. I hate how my car engages the SC .
So if I want this mod I can no longer use my current custom OE tune ?
This mod sounds bad *** and I want it. I hate how my car engages the SC .
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Anybody running this mod should invest in a monitoring system, like a Dashdaq XL and have IAT READINGS front and center at all times. Otherwise, you're taking a risk.
I have a split circuit reservoir + mbh monster IC, water/meth injection already installed in the car, aside from that, I am running a Dashdaq XL + ZT-2 + Zeitronix additional IAT and MAP sensors (these are added sensors for a faster reading of intake temps and boost), guys, the way I see it, this is a mod that as many other pointed out, if let alone, could potentially harm your engine, no point in taking a risk like that for any horsepower gains.
Be safe.
What sort of failsafe could Jerry insert into the tune to make it "safer"?, on the flip side, I don't think any tuner would take a risk of someone blaming the failsafe for a damaged engine, so we're on our own, we all pay to play....
I have a split circuit reservoir + mbh monster IC, water/meth injection already installed in the car, aside from that, I am running a Dashdaq XL + ZT-2 + Zeitronix additional IAT and MAP sensors (these are added sensors for a faster reading of intake temps and boost), guys, the way I see it, this is a mod that as many other pointed out, if let alone, could potentially harm your engine, no point in taking a risk like that for any horsepower gains.
Be safe.
What sort of failsafe could Jerry insert into the tune to make it "safer"?, on the flip side, I don't think any tuner would take a risk of someone blaming the failsafe for a damaged engine, so we're on our own, we all pay to play....
Last edited by Kelvin07; Oct 20, 2013 at 06:26 PM.
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Jerry has the only tune, and no, you cant use your old one. I understand a LOT went into getting this to work. In terms of failsafe: The SC will no longer disengage. SO from that standpoint, that feature is gone. Understand though that the failsafe fuel map will still be there (Jerry, correct me if I am wrong), and there may be some added security in the way the bleed off works. Those are really questions for Eurocharged.
I agree: Data logging when you start to modify an engine should be mandatory. If you were to say, get a tune, and the injectors were scaled wrong, how would you know you have a time bomb. It could be that simple.
Also note: Many supercharged cars do not employ a clutch.
I agree: Data logging when you start to modify an engine should be mandatory. If you were to say, get a tune, and the injectors were scaled wrong, how would you know you have a time bomb. It could be that simple.
Also note: Many supercharged cars do not employ a clutch.
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Jerry has the only tune, and no, you cant use your old one. I understand a LOT went into getting this to work. In terms of failsafe: The SC will no longer disengage. SO from that standpoint, that feature is gone. Understand though that the failsafe fuel map will still be there (Jerry, correct me if I am wrong), and there may be some added security in the way the bleed off works. Those are really questions for Eurocharged.
I agree: Data logging when you start to modify an engine should be mandatory. If you were to say, get a tune, and the injectors were scaled wrong, how would you know you have a time bomb. It could be that simple.
Also note: Many supercharged cars do not employ a clutch.
I agree: Data logging when you start to modify an engine should be mandatory. If you were to say, get a tune, and the injectors were scaled wrong, how would you know you have a time bomb. It could be that simple.
Also note: Many supercharged cars do not employ a clutch.
