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Old 11-15-2014, 10:09 PM
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fair enough... notice the "pit crew" reference... that was me, lol... ive never met the guy, just rolled up on my pit bike and offered to lend a hand because we had a common interest...
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fair enough... notice the "pit crew" reference... that was me, lol... ive never met the guy, just rolled up on my pit bike and offered to lend a hand because we had a common interest...

Cool. I wish I'd driven down since my local track closed due to the temp being in the 40's. I'm glad to see everyting went well for you guys and all the paint is still shinny.
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It sounded like a good day, I can't wait to hear/see the details. Even if conditions got a little worse, it always nice to see people improve throughout the day.
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had fun and was proud of my girl. drove 130 miles one way to the track, went through tech and first run was a 10 with the every so irritating shifting problem.

each burnout got longer and longer but my 60s were getting worse and worse. just drove back home, super fun.

going to put on a smaller blower pulley and pick up some vht from summit to coat my tires for the next trip out.
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:36 AM
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jimmy (draggbody) was a major help and has been around the block when it comes to dragging, thanks again bro!!!
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Old 11-16-2014, 10:12 AM
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I don't know how well the prep the track there but if your having trouble with your slicks this will help. Buy 1 gallon of MEK and 1 gallon of VHT and a bottle of Karo corn syrup. Mix half a gallon of MEK, 1 bottle of Karo syrup and a little less than 1/2 gallon of VHT. Pour a good patch out in front of the tires and do a good burnout. The MEK will soften the tires up and they will stick like glue. I doubt the track would let you do it there but you can "condition" the tires that way. Always worked for me
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Everyone has their own but after experimenting a long time ago I found that to work about the best. I tried using VP's traction compounds but they seem to not work as well on the street. That mix will bring old drag tires back to life to but it also cuts the life of the tire down a lot.
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Ya that stuff will make tires stick and make strings hang from the tires to the ground.
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thanks Stevie, you the man. no that was not on any spray. 93/110 mix with meth. iats still got up too 146* at the end of the run. they started around 90* after the burnout. 3.0 huffer is a oven baker lol.
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Are you spinning or is it just not wanting to 60ft that well?
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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket
Are you spinning or is it just not wanting to 60ft that well?
i must be missing something. how is a 1.593 not a great 60 ft? overall the run is spot on, 7.1 in the 1/8 at 100 mph and picking up 29 mph on the back half running 3.8 secs for the second 1/8 at 129 mph.

looks like he is .7 slower in the 60 ft and 3 mph slower than your run for non nitrous according to your sig. wasn't that done at mir in late fall with massive neg d/a?

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i must be missing something. how is a 1.593 not a great 60 ft? overall the run is spot on, 7.1 in the 1/8 at 100 mph and picking up 29 mph on the back half running 3.8 secs for the second 1/8 at 129 mph.

looks like he is .5 slower in the 60 ft and 3 mph slower than your run for non nitrous according to your sig. wasn't that done at mir in late fall with massive neg d/a?
I didn't see the slip until after the post. Either way he said he was having traction problems and a 1.59 60ft on slicks isn't that good. My 10.51 run was in spring on a 82 degree day with +2000ft DA or something and no nitrous. My nitrous run was was 1.61 60ft and the same shifting problems Craig is having I believe.
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Originally Posted by draggbody
perfect weather... mid 50's and not a cloud in the sky... but the track wasnt doing so great towards the end of the day... nanayaw6 went from running low 12's/ high 11's to solid 11.50s by the days end... he had a great pit crew, lol... craig still has traction issues, but to drive to the track on a new build and break into the 10s is impressive... a little more tweaking and that things going to be mean... i had a fun day helping out while my crank is in good hands at BIP getting the crank snout fixed... good to meet jason as well as craigs dad...
Shout out to draggbody man and Craig. Was great meeting you and all the knowledge you and Craig offered came in really handy. Draggbody came right over the moment we pulled in and were installing the slicks and helped out the whole day. Been trying to get a few runs in since installing my current motor, modifying my long tubes and mid section single handedly in the garage this summer. Jerry, Jacob and Phil worked tirelessly with me over the summer to get the tune I wanted on there.Thank you EC! Been hoping to make around an 11.6 pass with the set up and slicks but hadn't had the time to. Of course my transmission on the drive down to the track started popping out from manual mode to Sport D after a few seconds of being in M mode. This was an issue for me since I only drive my car at the track in M mode and 80% all other times. Pulled over and scanned ECU, TCU and heck even ESP with Star and there were no stored codes nor events. Looks like it's time for another oil level sensor. Learning to launch on the slicks was interesting but fun as I had to overcome my mindset of too much throttle off the line and also knowing when I've gotten a good enough burnout. Draggbody was an awesome coach ! I eventually realized that my cold inflation on the slicks of 23 PSI that morning in my garage had turned to 26 in the warmer weather so dropped that sucker to 22 and finally started making sub 12s runs. BTW I hate doing a burnout in Sport mode. My car shifts into 2nd at 5500 ish RPM and once that happens it kills the burnout permanently!
All in it was a great day. Eventually managed a few 11.5 runs with my 60's in the high 1.7 range. Granted I've seen people pull off 1.5's with these slicks but with my starting IATs at 100 after burnout I think further cooling (meth) will do it for me. I am pleased with the car also given there was no cool down between runs except for the trip to the gas station to get some fuel. Lots of sweet rides, great people, was a fun day. Great seeing Jason again and Craig's beast. Heck even got to see an E63 S (gorgeous in that white trim) run a few times and got to run against it. This was one of the highlights of my day. Draggbody, can't wait till you get your whip back on the road man and thanks again for yesterday!!!

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^^^^^This!!!!

Originally Posted by chawkins2001
jimmy (draggbody) was a major help and has been around the block when it comes to dragging, thanks again bro!!!
Jimmy is amazingly helpful I owe him a round.
Jimmy. anytime I can ever be of help don't hesitate to let me know.
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Craig, your ride is an absolute beast! Lined up directly behind that beast and seeing it spin on launch and still pull high 10's floored me. One thing I noticed during your later runs when I was directly behind you was that your rear wheels seem to have a lot of camber. Wanted to ask if you were launching in raised or normal ride height. Thought I had a video to show you what i mean but of course looks like I didn't hit record. Awesome recovery skills too cos on one of your later runs I was behind you for, that thing spun out a lot and suddenly. I would have probably eaten the wall if I was running that much torque and lost traction when you did in the launch.
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Drag Season? I wish. My little 55K has been tucked in for the looong cold winter already. We haven't been above freezing for 3 days and won't be for another 5 or 6. Is my jealousy showing yet?
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Originally Posted by nanayaw6
...... Draggbody, can't wait till you get your whip back on the road man and thanks again for yesterday!!!
cough, cough.... just waiting on chawkins, cough, cough... lol

seriously, i had a blast... i just like helping out, i know how tough it can be to know whats going on outside the car while we are inside driving...
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Yeah, that time is spot on for what I ran, but it ran that time because the shifting hesistation is massive. I make 4 shifts through the 1/4, so it is losing speed and time on each upshift.

That 60ft was good, but the car still came sideways out the hole and the hesitation between shifts was immense. I would have done much better if the tcu was acting the way it should.

Stevie, what shifting issues were you having, I am thinking of going back to a stock TCU to see if it changes anything.
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
thanks Stevie, you the man. no that was not on any spray. 93/110 mix with meth. iats still got up too 146* at the end of the run. they started around 90* after the burnout. 3.0 huffer is a oven baker lol.
I feel your pain lol. You have a trunk tank too right?
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i must be missing something. how is a 1.593 not a great 60 ft? overall the run is spot on, 7.1 in the 1/8 at 100 mph and picking up 29 mph on the back half running 3.8 secs for the second 1/8 at 129 mph.

looks like he is .7 slower in the 60 ft and 3 mph slower than your run for non nitrous according to your sig. wasn't that done at mir in late fall with massive neg d/a?
1.59 is not a great 60' for these cars. He can/will do much better

I think it's hilarious that people think MIR is -2000 DA all the time. Like you guys don't get negative DA down there... they are closing tracks because it is too cold there!
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Yeah, that time is spot on for what I ran, but it ran that time because the shifting hesistation is massive. I make 4 shifts through the 1/4, so it is losing speed and time on each upshift.

That 60ft was good, but the car still came sideways out the hole and the hesitation between shifts was immense. I would have done much better if the tcu was acting the way it should.

Stevie, what shifting issues were you having, I am thinking of going back to a stock TCU to see if it changes anything.
Can't run a stock TCU with your gears unless you have it reprogrammed
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Ahmad, I am going to chase down a slk32 amg or a c55 amg that has stock 3.06 gearing to and try that. I will leave it stock and see how it does on the dyno.

For whatever reason, the tranny went into limp mode after every run and mine is built lol.
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Ahmad, I am going to chase down a slk32 amg or a c55 amg that has stock 3.06 gearing to and try that. I will leave it stock and see how it does on the dyno.

For whatever reason, the tranny went into limp mode after every run and mine is built lol.
Ok but I think you will hit torque limiters.

Does it get stuck in a gear?
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Originally Posted by nanayaw6
Craig, your ride is an absolute beast! Lined up directly behind that beast and seeing it spin on launch and still pull high 10's floored me. One thing I noticed during your later runs when I was directly behind you was that your rear wheels seem to have a lot of camber. Wanted to ask if you were launching in raised or normal ride height. Thought I had a video to show you what i mean but of course looks like I didn't hit record. Awesome recovery skills too cos on one of your later runs I was behind you for, that thing spun out a lot and suddenly. I would have probably eaten the wall if I was running that much torque and lost traction when you did in the launch.
I need to get that camber fixed, I did launch on raised mode btw homey. I remember that launch when it was spin city. Came out the hole sideways and over corrected, then the rear went the opposite direction and I knew I was in for one hell of a ride but I stayed in it
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz

1.59 is not a great 60' for these cars. He can/will do much better

I think it's hilarious that people think MIR is -2000 DA all the time. Like you guys don't get negative DA down there... they are closing tracks because it is too cold there!
considering that according to dragtimes the best 60 ft on record is a 1.50 and the top 4 are all 1.5 to 1.58 i would say craigs 60 ft is about as good as the e55 is going to see. mir has always had a reputation of having some of the lowest d/a in the country . isn't that why you hold so many events in the late fall right before it closes?
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Ahmad, I am going to chase down a slk32 amg or a c55 amg that has stock 3.06 gearing to and try that. I will leave it stock and see how it does on the dyno.

For whatever reason, the tranny went into limp mode after every run and mine is built lol.
might be easier to find a sort they have 3.06 gearing as well. jeremy swartz has a slk32 in at as well


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