All 55amg engines the same?
02-02-2019, 10:19 AM
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All 55amg engines the same?
Hello,
are all mk113 55amg compressor the same?
Do the cl55, cls55, sl55, s55 and e55 from 2003 to 2006 share the same engine, transmission and differential specifications? Power, torque , ratio etc...
can we swap them with no issues?
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are all mk113 55amg compressor the same?
Do the cl55, cls55, sl55, s55 and e55 from 2003 to 2006 share the same engine, transmission and differential specifications? Power, torque , ratio etc...
can we swap them with no issues?
regards
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02-02-2019, 02:30 PM
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They are the same for the engines---however you don't know the complete engine number to make comparisons-----go to any dealer and get a copy of the datacard and you will then be able to answer your own question.FYI MB en
02-02-2019, 07:35 PM
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They are very similar, but there are a number of small differences. Just to name a few: There are a few different versions of the superchargers depending on year. The bottom of the engine (oil pan and oil pump) are different depending on the vehicle configuration. Some SL55s had a larger (80mm) throttle body. Etc.
02-02-2019, 10:25 PM
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2005 E55 AMG, 1991 MR2
The later model SL55's had more power than the E55's and some others. Probably all in the OEM tune and some minor differences to fit in the different chassis. Chuck on LTH's, pulley and tune and they will all make the same. S55 and maybe 1-2 others had a secondary heat exchanger. Most of the parts are going to be the same.
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02-04-2019, 07:26 AM
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Thank you all your answer, let me explain why I asked this question.
at this moment my e55 w211 2004 engine, transmission and differential are all out of service and need to be replaced.
i’m having great difficulty to find them in the usa, but there are nemerous m113k 55amg for other models that are available.
what it be for you the best 55kompressor that would fit in my car and has the best features? Is it the sl55 with more hp or the s55 with its twin heat exchanger or other?
Thanks for your help
p.s: willing to buy if something available.
at this moment my e55 w211 2004 engine, transmission and differential are all out of service and need to be replaced.
i’m having great difficulty to find them in the usa, but there are nemerous m113k 55amg for other models that are available.
what it be for you the best 55kompressor that would fit in my car and has the best features? Is it the sl55 with more hp or the s55 with its twin heat exchanger or other?
Thanks for your help
p.s: willing to buy if something available.
02-04-2019, 07:44 AM
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pretty sure the SL has different cams, larger TB and 3:06 diff gearing - a little more HP ,,, i dont think it will take much to get them in your E, they are quite similar but you will need to recode from a tuner for the diff gears - if you had a choice go this route - my .02
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02-04-2019, 09:50 AM
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pretty sure the SL has different cams, larger TB and 3:06 diff gearing - a little more HP ,,, i dont think it will take much to get them in your E, they are quite similar but you will need to recode from a tuner for the diff gears - if you had a choice go this route - my .02
02-04-2019, 01:48 PM
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2005 E55 AMG, 1991 MR2
It is probably one of the easiest V8/transmission combos to swap into anything but there will still be a huge amount of custom work.
What happened to your engine and transmission? I would be rebuilding my own before buying someone else's second hand problem. Someone said you can buy new or maybe refurbished transmissions from the dealer with warranty for $3.5k.
What happened to your engine and transmission? I would be rebuilding my own before buying someone else's second hand problem. Someone said you can buy new or maybe refurbished transmissions from the dealer with warranty for $3.5k.
02-04-2019, 10:07 PM
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The SL55 has the same cams as other 55s. Also, most of them have the same throttle body. The 80mm throttle body was only on a specific year or two (if you search on here, you can find the specifics). The difference in power between the SL55 and other 55ks was mostly marketing (and perhaps a little bit due to the SL55's shorter and less restrictive exhaust system). From what I've heard, they put down very similar numbers on dynos. Unless you happen to find one with an 80mm throttle body or with aftermarket mods, you will not be gaining any power. The major difference that you will have to consider when swapping 55 engines is the oil pan and pump. Depending on which model engine you get, you may need to swap over your oil pan and pump (not that big a deal, but be sure to use new seals). The intercoolers on the engines are also the same. The difference (regarding the S55) is the front-mount heat exchangers, which you will not be swapping with the engine.
Just out of curiosity, how on earth do you end up needing to replace an engine, transmission, and differential on a car that is not known for failures of any of the above parts...?
Just out of curiosity, how on earth do you end up needing to replace an engine, transmission, and differential on a car that is not known for failures of any of the above parts...?
02-05-2019, 06:52 AM
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It is probably one of the easiest V8/transmission combos to swap into anything but there will still be a huge amount of custom work.
What happened to your engine and transmission? I would be rebuilding my own before buying someone else's second hand problem. Someone said you can buy new or maybe refurbished transmissions from the dealer with warranty for $3.5k.
What happened to your engine and transmission? I would be rebuilding my own before buying someone else's second hand problem. Someone said you can buy new or maybe refurbished transmissions from the dealer with warranty for $3.5k.
my engine blew one of its pistons, Spare part in my country are not original therefore It can not be repaired and needs to be replaced. My transmission was having some issues too, bad torque converter and few other things. All that due to the previous owner who was neglecting basic stuff like changing oil at the right time etc...
to give you an idea, it will cost me arround 7k for an engine+ transmission + differential.
the dealership is way too expensive to even trybto ask him
02-05-2019, 06:58 AM
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The SL55 has the same cams as other 55s. Also, most of them have the same throttle body. The 80mm throttle body was only on a specific year or two (if you search on here, you can find the specifics). The difference in power between the SL55 and other 55ks was mostly marketing (and perhaps a little bit due to the SL55's shorter and less restrictive exhaust system). From what I've heard, they put down very similar numbers on dynos. Unless you happen to find one with an 80mm throttle body or with aftermarket mods, you will not be gaining any power. The major difference that you will have to consider when swapping 55 engines is the oil pan and pump. Depending on which model engine you get, you may need to swap over your oil pan and pump (not that big a deal, but be sure to use new seals). The intercoolers on the engines are also the same. The difference (regarding the S55) is the front-mount heat exchangers, which you will not be swapping with the engine.
Just out of curiosity, how on earth do you end up needing to replace an engine, transmission, and differential on a car that is not known for failures of any of the above parts...?
Just out of curiosity, how on earth do you end up needing to replace an engine, transmission, and differential on a car that is not known for failures of any of the above parts...?
i bought the car almost a year ago, my first engine failure was on the highway when suddenly steal noise came from the engine, my crankshaft bearings were torn .... and now i have this piston problem.
i found out that the previous owner was a serious assho!!! He was not maintaining the car and driving it like a 4x4 ...
just a sad story...
02-05-2019, 03:58 PM
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That's very unfortunate. Have you torn them both down? I would try to rebuild both if you can. The main issue will be finding someone competent to do the work. Just about all possible parts are available across the world. I don't like second hand stuff at least without tearing it apart first to check the condition.
02-05-2019, 09:36 PM
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2004 s55, 2003 330ci , 2003 lx470, 92 landcruiser
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The SL55 has the same cams as other 55s. Also, most of them have the same throttle body. The 80mm throttle body was only on a specific year or two (if you search on here, you can find the specifics). The difference in power between the SL55 and other 55ks was mostly marketing (and perhaps a little bit due to the SL55's shorter and less restrictive exhaust system). From what I've heard, they put down very similar numbers on dynos. Unless you happen to find one with an 80mm throttle body or with aftermarket mods, you will not be gaining any power. The major difference that you will have to consider when swapping 55 engines is the oil pan and pump. Depending on which model engine you get, you may need to swap over your oil pan and pump (not that big a deal, but be sure to use new seals). The intercoolers on the engines are also the same. The difference (regarding the S55) is the front-mount heat exchangers, which you will not be swapping with the engine.
Just out of curiosity, how on earth do you end up needing to replace an engine, transmission, and differential on a car that is not known for failures of any of the above parts...?
Just out of curiosity, how on earth do you end up needing to replace an engine, transmission, and differential on a car that is not known for failures of any of the above parts...?
02-05-2019, 09:40 PM
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2004 s55, 2003 330ci , 2003 lx470, 92 landcruiser
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yes that it really sad!!
i bought the car almost a year ago, my first engine failure was on the highway when suddenly steal noise came from the engine, my crankshaft bearings were torn .... and now i have this piston problem.
i found out that the previous owner was a serious assho!!! He was not maintaining the car and driving it like a 4x4 ...
just a sad story...
02-06-2019, 07:25 AM
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I contacted the dealer for curiosity and ask him for an engine. Well I can order one but they only sell brand new!! 18k $ only the engine haha. But guess what 0 miles on it !!
I guess i have to wait until i find a good deal on the net.
I guess i have to wait until i find a good deal on the net.
02-06-2019, 10:02 AM
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Only $18000 for a new (not even reman) AMG engine? That doesn't sound right. Should be way more than that. Regardless, these engines are very reliable so I would still recommend a used one.
02-06-2019, 10:20 AM
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02-06-2019, 03:04 PM
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They all sport the same block, crank, pistons and rods and cylinder head designs (ALL M113K series engines for all USA models)
differences are very minimal and do not have to do with internals.
differences are very minimal and do not have to do with internals.
02-06-2019, 04:08 PM
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http://pauter.com/parts/rods/mercedes-benz/
There clearly is a difference between the range of m113k engines.
02-09-2019, 07:08 AM
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