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Old Oct 24, 2019 | 02:59 AM
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Bigger supercharger TENSIONER pulley???

Hi,

I just got a new toy - a lathe. Currently I'm fabricating a new supercharger belt tensioner pulley with it - just to train a bit

It's gonna be made of aluminum. I'll surely use a bigger bearing than the stock one - just for strenght and I was thinking.... maybe I should make the pulley a bit bigger? Let's say by 3-4mm in outside diameter.
I gues that it may "hold" the belt from slipping a bit better than the stock one (stock old tensioner arm stays in place).

Will such thing have any disadvantages?

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Old Oct 24, 2019 | 08:39 AM
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I think it's a good idea. The bigger it is, the more alignment matters though.
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Old Oct 24, 2019 | 02:34 PM
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

The pulley is done. And it works
(sorry for my dirty engine - I have this car since 3 months and didn't get into engine detailing yet )

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Alignment (if I understand it properly) went out not bad:

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Disadvantages? (I still did not ride with it much yet)

1. Beasause of the bigger bearing I used I needed to shave a bit of "lip" that surrounds the bearing on the tensioner side (really minor thing)
2. You need the "brake line wrench" to move the tensioner now

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If anything wrong happens with/beacause of it in the future, I'll surely come back here and report it.
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Old Oct 24, 2019 | 02:36 PM
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Nice job on making the pulley!
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 01:21 AM
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Thx. That was my first lathe job. The other pulleys are waiting
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 08:51 AM
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Looks like you could still take a lot of weight off it. the balance will matter less the lighter it is.
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 09:00 AM
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Yep, I know. But I did notice that after drilling those 6 holes.... and it was 4pm already... and I wanted to get home... and to actually check if it's working or not by driving with it for at least some time.

I'll surely get back to that and most probably will drill some more holes in the future.
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 03:23 PM
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A larger pulley might stop belt slippage with smaller blower pulleys.
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This is is a better way to wrap the belt to eliminate slipping. I moved the wrap kit idler pulley location up and over to increase the wrap. Works a treat with a 74mm SC puley.
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 05:05 AM
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bigger idlers were popular with the 03/04 cobra 100mm idlers the bigger idlers helped alot with belt slip
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Yep, I know. But I did notice that after drilling those 6 holes.... and it was 4pm already... and I wanted to get home... and to actually check if it's working or not by driving with it for at least some time.

I'll surely get back to that and most probably will drill some more holes in the future.
Looks good. I would just thin it out. Take a good look at the stock one first. They don't need much strength at the rim, just around the bearing.
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 05:45 PM
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bravo. gotta love the home made solutions
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by coobah
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

The pulley is done. And it works
(sorry for my dirty engine - I have this car since 3 months and didn't get into engine detailing yet )







Alignment (if I understand it properly) went out not bad:





Disadvantages? (I still did not ride with it much yet)

1. Beasause of the bigger bearing I used I needed to shave a bit of "lip" that surrounds the bearing on the tensioner side (really minor thing)
2. You need the "brake line wrench" to move the tensioner now




If anything wrong happens with/beacause of it in the future, I'll surely come back here and report it.
do you still have your OEM pulley? Can you send me photos of the OEM bearing part #. I’m trying to avoid pulling off my pulley until I can source a replacement bearing, if that is possible
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 01:35 PM
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Yep. Tommorow morning when I'll be at work.

Do you know that you need to cut/grind/mill the wheel (or drill out the rivets) to swap the bearing on a stock pulley?

(I'm pretty sure it was the 6303 type of bearing but I'll confirm tomorrow)

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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by coobah
Yep. Tommorow morning when I'll be at work.

Do you know that you need to cut/grind/mill the wheel (or drill out the rivets) to swap the bearing on a stock pulley?

(I'm pretty sure it was the 6203 type of bearing but I'll confirm tomorrow)
thanks for getting back to me. No I did not know that I needed to do that to swap the bearing, I do have access to a full machine shop so I think I will be able to handle it.

If you can send me the type of bearing and maybe even upload a photo of it that would be great. Thank you!!
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Old Dec 12, 2019 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by zhmorrow13
thanks for getting back to me. No I did not know that I needed to do that to swap the bearing, I do have access to a full machine shop so I think I will be able to handle it.

If you can send me the type of bearing and maybe even upload a photo of it that would be great. Thank you!!
Sorry made a mistake yesterday - edited the last post for future readers.

The bearing is 6303 - C3 closed from both sides
C3 is the norm of the play inside the bearing - for higher temp work etc.

BTW: If I had access to a full machine shop I'd definitely make another/new aluminum pulley with oversized bearing held by a circlip instead of fighting with the stock ****ty pulley.



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For what? For such a pulley? Hmmm... I'm not making it in "series" on CNC etc. Making one is around 80-85 Euros for a set with a quality bearing and the circlip. You could choose the outside diameter of the wheel itself and the size of the bearing (stock/oversized - just like mine's done). I can also powder coat it for you if you'd want (extra charge). Please note I'm located in Europe.
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