Mockbam5

So as some of you may know my lease on the M5 has expired. So I decided to take a drive to mexico for a final run to see which german super sedan has the upper edge in the straight away. Well here are the results and there will be 2 video's of low quality coming.

First run 45 - 150

M5 starts at 5,500 rpm S6 ESC OFF
E63 Starts at 4,900 rpm ESC OFF

Results - M5 wins by 1 1/2 cars.


Second Run 45 - 130

M5 starts at 5,400 rpm s6 ESC OFF
E63 Starts at 5,000 rpm ESC OFF

As I end my second gear I over rev for a split milisecond and the M5 starts to walk on me fast. By the time race of over the car was ahead by about 2 1/2 cars and probably would have pulled more.

With all the data mercedes really did not try to beat the BMW, yet they tried to match the bmw's horsepower without actually proving it on the track. I'm somewhat upset over the results yet I was kinda expecting it.

FlyC63

Thanks for posting! really surprised by the result as i also had a 08 M5.
The E is a lot more comfortable to drive as the SMG on M5 is really a pain in traffic.
I had a modded C63 and that took the M5 by couple car length but when i ran the C63 w/passenger and i was solo in the E we were dead even. I had singh tune and K2 shorty
headers on the C63.

gadgets

No need to have a race in order to know that my M6 is by far faster than my E63, the benz is more comfortable, but the BMW is a better driving machine hands down.

It's just the way it is, the E63 is still a great daily driver, but it lacks the 'edge' BMW has...

Mockbam5

E63 > M5 Daily Driver
E63 > M5 Looks department W212 VS E60


but the M5 does have that special edge, its more connected with the driver.

Mockbam5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imTt5aHaak4

Race #1 -- Quality is terrible! and so is host taking the video! At 11 seconds into the video you can see that we are almost dead even its only at 120 does he pull on me hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLwpC6nXCAc

Race #2 -- As before I over reved for a milisecond and thats all it took before the beast ate me again.

E-Ridium 63

I've been an M5 fan most of my adult life. However when it came down to buying my car, for me it had to be something i could live with day in and day out. Did i think that the E63 would tear apart an M5? Not in the least bit. Did I think the E63 was a very capable car thats more car than i would use 75% of the time I'm driving? I think so. Was I thinking that the ride and feel of the car would be more refined, agreeable and comfortable while being packaged with some brute power? Absolutely!

Point is, lets not kid ourselves. I think that if you're buying a benz, you're buying a level of refinement that is going to cost you some performance points. If i wanted to smoke a bunch of other cars out there, i woulda bought a GTR or a vette. I bought a four door cause I needed four doors...the power and ride were just a big bonus that puts a smile on my face everytime i step into the car.

E55_GT3wheels

I am sorry but I dont believe the results. yes the M5 is a great car but there is no way you would/should have lost so badly. Every car magazine that has tested the M5 vs E63 places the E63 ahead. Now let's wait and see what the new M5 brings. You can easily search for 0-60 and 1/4 mile times and you will see that your results are not typical. Are you sure you were not running a modded M5?

Mockbam5

These were both my cars. The M5 was driven by a friend to which I specified to start at 5,500 rpms. Both cars are stock.

ESIX3POWER

Hold on a second… Youre comparing a nicely broken in 2006 M5 vs a 2010 E63.. How many miles do you have on the 63 ? Also, lets not kid our selves with the handling talk. This isnt the W211 E63, were talking about. The W212 is a different animal. I have seen the new E63 put up a better # on the track than the new M3..

Mockbam5

My E63 currently has right under 2,000 miles.

Mockbam5

We're not talking about handeling capabilities, we're talking about being connected to the vehicle. After driving my M5 and then sitting in my e63 I prefer the E63 > M5.

E55_GT3wheels

+1

The new W212 E63 puts up a better track time than the CTS-V. It also bests the BMW M5. I am not sure I understand when people say the E63 is no tup to M5 standards? If you have driven both, its not the case anymore. It maybe was with the W211, not with the W212. Numerous magazines and tests have more than proven that now. Somehow AMG managed to get a great ride and also pretty much best in class handling. Here is one recent MT article showing that.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../handling.html


"Yes, you pay for such privilege. Base price of the E63 tops the CTS-V's by over $25K. Regular readers know that return on the dollar is a critical component in all our comparison-test verdicts. Indeed, the CTS-V won its matches against the BMW M5 and Jaguar XFR in part because it delivered so much talent for far less cost. In this duel, however, our test drivers are unanimous in their opinion that the E63 AMG is worth its premium. The CTS-V remains the world's leading sport-sedan value: It's breathtakingly fast, laser-precise in responsiveness, and loaded with tech and luxury. But the Mercedes-Benz is the better car. In terms of performance, the E63 does everything the CTS-V can do -- and with superior control and refinement. It's also roomier, more advanced (including that superb seven-speed auto), far better-presented (especially inside), and more livable day to day (that air-suspended ride, among other virtues). The E63 AMG is a brilliant executive's express."

Vic55

Thanks for the post first off!!

The E60 M5 is known, ad naseum, for its freeway prowess. I had the S85 engine in my M6 and its place to shine was on the freeway. But it was not a dig racer and to be fair I would always be wary of lining up with any AMG at a stop light. Races occur in all situations, not just from the roll.

You should have also done a 0-120 race for perspective. I think it would have been a different story.

As for handling, the W212 with its wider tracker and springs up front has closed the gap nicely.

Did you all get to see this post in the W211 forum:

Click Here

E55_GT3wheels

did see that but forgot abt it. Thanks for the info again Vic!

I am telling you I ahve had both a W210 E55 and a W211 E55 for years. Now the W212 E63 - it is a much more capable machine in terms on pure handling. The magazines can not all be wrong at the same time too...

Mockbam5

I'm not suprised the E63 won in the race around the track. I said the same thing about going from a stop. I feel the E63 would have won up until 120 from a stop.

Vic55

Cool!!!!!!

I had W210 E55 and W211 E55 plus a CL65 and this W212 is the best handling Benz Ive ever owned. The steering ratio, chassis response and suspension crushed all my previous rides on the AMG side. Granted they were all bought new and had older technology and less R&D.

E55_GT3wheels

Vic I can't keep track of all your cars. I just know that they all end up looking amazing! btw - time to update the signature pic. But I am guessing that will be after you mod the E63

Uhlenhaut

I totally agree. I've never seen a third-party report where an M5 beats an E55/E63 in a straight. Another non-magazine example was the Top Gear test of the E60 M5 Touring and the E63 T-Limousine and the Merc annihilated the BMW on the straights and vice versa through the curves (we're talking W211 here).

The W212 is a remarkable shift in handling, very impressive car. Let's see what the F10 brings to the table.

derrick_lui

I have the privilege of deciding to drive an M5 or E63 on a daily basis...but unfortunately I do agree that the M5 is faster on the highway.

HOWEVER, the E63 is much more drivable from a dig or in any other situations...and has better looks and sound.

Vic55

Id say this part is arguable; the V10 symphony that the S85 engine makes is wonderful. Put a nice cat back exhaust on it and its amazing. I guess it all depends on what you want: V8 grumble or V10 scream.

SMP

It sure is Vic! The V10 with an Eisenmann exhaust at 8200 is one of the best soundtracks ever One of these days I have to hang with you so you can hear what my CLK sounds like with an exhaust done the right way

Vic55

Absolutely... I have heard a few Evo CLK BS's and Im sure yours is just like or even better!!!!


I had the Meisterschaft GT on my M6- my gaaaaaaawd what a sound.

DAGREEKNYC

any races from a dig?

besides the low gearing does anyone think the v10 helps on the top end as well ? they do lack almost 100lbs of torque compared to a 63

SMP

Out of the hole the 63's are way better than the M5/M6 because of the torque. But on top, the M's pull brutally and the V10 with the SMG is in it's element. The M6 is also about 100 pounds lighter than the M5, which will help from a dig, but even with TC off and in S6, the 63 will have the advantage.

Mockbam5

I just want all of you to know both cars were driven by excellent drivers and it was fair races. The video's do not lie. I just want you guys to know I destroyed an SL63 in my M5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkEngTylIJk

I'm sure my car will gain more HP over the next 5k miles.

I'm just happy to be able to drive these cars on a daily basis .