Did Service A, oil level is above both red plastic marks
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Did Service A, oil level is above both red plastic marks
Should I be concerned about this? I remember having higher than marked oil levels is dangerous and can cause some permanent damage to your engine.
So I was surprised when I just got it back from an oil change and the oil levels were well above both marks. So far above, it was even above both plastic red markers onto the metal rod again.
I forgot to ask about it last week, now a week later it's just at the top of the top red plastic marker (meaning just above it). So it's come down maybe a few mm from where it was last week.
But I know when the engine is running, that level goes way down because the oil is up circulating through the engine. And I think it's only dangerous when oil levels are extremely high above the mark. Right now I'm probably almost a 1cm over the max mark.
Input and thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
So I was surprised when I just got it back from an oil change and the oil levels were well above both marks. So far above, it was even above both plastic red markers onto the metal rod again.
I forgot to ask about it last week, now a week later it's just at the top of the top red plastic marker (meaning just above it). So it's come down maybe a few mm from where it was last week.
But I know when the engine is running, that level goes way down because the oil is up circulating through the engine. And I think it's only dangerous when oil levels are extremely high above the mark. Right now I'm probably almost a 1cm over the max mark.
Input and thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
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do you dip and clean a couple of times before you take a read? I've found that I've had to dip and clean at least twice before I get a good read on the dipstick. I also check when the engine is cold and I'm sure you're making sure you're on level ground when you check.
I've heard that too much oil is a bad thing too but not sure what the tolerance is. I would go back to the dealer and have them check if it is really bothering you. Good luck
I've heard that too much oil is a bad thing too but not sure what the tolerance is. I would go back to the dealer and have them check if it is really bothering you. Good luck
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Sorry for the noobie advice....shoulda figured a man of your caliber knows this without thinking 
. Good luck at the dealer. The only calming anecdotal thought i have is that dealers I've been to usually pump out the oil from a spigot that is like a gas pump where they enter the appropriate amount and the machine does all the thinking. Hopefully it was like that at your dealer and not some shmoe filling it blind. Good luck and let us know what you find out.
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. Good luck at the dealer. The only calming anecdotal thought i have is that dealers I've been to usually pump out the oil from a spigot that is like a gas pump where they enter the appropriate amount and the machine does all the thinking. Hopefully it was like that at your dealer and not some shmoe filling it blind. Good luck and let us know what you find out.Cheers
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@Vic, 9.3 liters! Wow!
On my paperwork it says 7 L. Maybe they put more, just didn't measure it.
When you say top of the red, you're referring to the second higher up red mark, correct?
If I remember correctly, technically the right oil level is in between the 2 red plastic pieces, no?
@ e ridium, FREE!! I prepaid! :-) I called my wife on the spot when i was offered the option, and she told me how much the services cost. Man... it's a much better deal to buy up front! :-)
On my paperwork it says 7 L. Maybe they put more, just didn't measure it.
When you say top of the red, you're referring to the second higher up red mark, correct?
If I remember correctly, technically the right oil level is in between the 2 red plastic pieces, no?
@ e ridium, FREE!! I prepaid! :-) I called my wife on the spot when i was offered the option, and she told me how much the services cost. Man... it's a much better deal to buy up front! :-)
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@Vic, 9.3 liters! Wow!
On my paperwork it says 7 L. Maybe they put more, just didn't measure it.
When you say top of the red, you're referring to the second higher up red mark, correct?
If I remember correctly, technically the right oil level is in between the 2 red plastic pieces, no?
@ e ridium, FREE!! I prepaid! :-) I called my wife on the spot when i was offered the option, and she told me how much the services cost. Man... it's a much better deal to buy up front! :-)
On my paperwork it says 7 L. Maybe they put more, just didn't measure it.
When you say top of the red, you're referring to the second higher up red mark, correct?
If I remember correctly, technically the right oil level is in between the 2 red plastic pieces, no?
@ e ridium, FREE!! I prepaid! :-) I called my wife on the spot when i was offered the option, and she told me how much the services cost. Man... it's a much better deal to buy up front! :-)
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Dipstick shows the top of the 2nd red... the manual says 9.3 quarts as well. They might have put just a little too much but half a quart is gonna burn quickly.
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I just posted this same problem on another thread. The dealership put too much oil in my AMG E63 on Monday. The car started idling weird, alomost like it had a broken motor mount. I had to take out over a quart to bring it to the top red level of my dipstick. The bad part, the mechanic said the rough idle was normal and I was just lucky for the first 10K miles.....
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Vic, so far no issues. I checked again today and it went down another 2 mm or so. So now it's in the upper portion of the top red mark. Oh well, i guess it's ok.
I asked dealer and he said not to worry about it. Not sure if that's comforting or not. :-)
Clubrcr, geez... that's a lot! But come to think of it , that's about right. When my oil is at the bottom of the red mark, each 0.5 quarter brings it up half way. So an extra quart would bring it down exactly from the top of the top red mark to the bottom of the top red mark.
Did that make any sense? Geez... we have have to come up with better nomenclature for this! :-)
I asked dealer and he said not to worry about it. Not sure if that's comforting or not. :-)
Clubrcr, geez... that's a lot! But come to think of it , that's about right. When my oil is at the bottom of the red mark, each 0.5 quarter brings it up half way. So an extra quart would bring it down exactly from the top of the top red mark to the bottom of the top red mark.
Did that make any sense? Geez... we have have to come up with better nomenclature for this! :-)
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fwiw, I have my Indy do the oil changes. He's immaculate about it and also owns two AMGs himself. After an experience I had of overfilling on a previous car at a MB dealer, I refuse to let them drain the oil. And most of them don't drain, they use a topsider (even though AMG says drain from the pan.)
So the dealer does the service and my Indy does the oil (plus he's cheaper, I know he's using the correct oil, and he will always drain a small sample in a bottle for me to do a UOA.)
So the dealer does the service and my Indy does the oil (plus he's cheaper, I know he's using the correct oil, and he will always drain a small sample in a bottle for me to do a UOA.)
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After further review he found out the that tech at the dealer used the same washer on the oil pan bolt instead of a new one- this caused the leak. Within 30 minutes he had cleaned the under carriage, drained the pan, put a new bolt and washer in and filled up 8 quarts of Mobil One 05-40 ESP. He charge me for his cost on the oil and no labor. Thank god for good peeps.
If any of you want an oil change for cheap and correct; check out Hyevon Motors in Huntington Beach, CA and ask for John or Serge.
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wow!THAT'S QUICK WORK ON YOUR END!
Holy $h!t, i'm sur eyou were sweating bricks for a little bit. What a dumb @$$ tech at the MB dealer. man.. such a stupid little mistake causes so much extra work!
so i guess we do have a little too much oil, but so far hasn't caused any prooblems.
Glad you got 8 quarts this times. 9.3 seemed a little much.
Holy $h!t, i'm sur eyou were sweating bricks for a little bit. What a dumb @$$ tech at the MB dealer. man.. such a stupid little mistake causes so much extra work!
so i guess we do have a little too much oil, but so far hasn't caused any prooblems.
Glad you got 8 quarts this times. 9.3 seemed a little much.
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wow!THAT'S QUICK WORK ON YOUR END!
Holy $h!t, i'm sur eyou were sweating bricks for a little bit. What a dumb @$$ tech at the MB dealer. man.. such a stupid little mistake causes so much extra work!
so i guess we do have a little too much oil, but so far hasn't caused any prooblems.
Glad you got 8 quarts this times. 9.3 seemed a little much.
Holy $h!t, i'm sur eyou were sweating bricks for a little bit. What a dumb @$$ tech at the MB dealer. man.. such a stupid little mistake causes so much extra work!
so i guess we do have a little too much oil, but so far hasn't caused any prooblems.
Glad you got 8 quarts this times. 9.3 seemed a little much.
Even at the top of the red you should be ok... and if you drive the car hard you will burn it off easily.
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Some of these dealer MB tech are morons. I go to my private Benz mechanic. I got a oil change and he put in 8.5 qts(manual says 9qts) which read right on the full line.
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Drain Oil Cooler
Have not heard anyone mention oil cooler. E63 has oil cooler with drain plug. Oil change instructions from Startek requires draining the oil cooler. Based on a recent change, I would guess half a quart is in the cooler. Draining the oil cooler allows full 9.3 qts. to be added. Not draining the oil cooler leaves oil in the system and 9.3 qts. added is overfilling.
Also, not replacing the filter should not affect fill quantity given filter position topside. If someone knows differently, please advise.
Finally, the sealing washer for the oil cooler drain is different from the oil pan drain. Both should be replaced each change.
Instructions attached.
Also, not replacing the filter should not affect fill quantity given filter position topside. If someone knows differently, please advise.
Finally, the sealing washer for the oil cooler drain is different from the oil pan drain. Both should be replaced each change.
Instructions attached.
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