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Mar 20, 2012 | 07:01 PM

areuv

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2005 E55 drowned/ 2011 CTS-v coupe gone/ 2012 E63 PP,LSD finally here

factory lsd or Renntech

so I was getting ready to order my new 2012 E63 knowing full well build times are taking over 4 months but then I happened to locate a car at another local dealership, the car I located is Iridium silver, when I was going to order diamond white but the silver was my second choice, I could live with it, now the car I located has every option I wanted i;e Performance package, twin spoke 5 star rims,black premium leather, parktronic, the premium package that includes the key less go and everything that comes with it, and no pano roof which is how I want it, now the car also has the CF interior trim, the CF rear spoiler, the distronic package with lane keeping and blind spot, these are options I would not have ordered but can live with, the only option I can't live with is that the car does not come with the factory LSD, now the dealer is really working with me, 3k conquest cash, 5% off MSRP and then some, plus they are giving what I wanted on my trade in, so my question is should I buy this car so I don't have to wait for months and just have the Renntech lsd installed? (I believe the Renntech unit is supposed to be better the the factory lsd) or order the car with the factory lsd and in the diamond white which is my first color choice? the dealer knows I am torn between taking this one and ordering the other one and they are really working the numbers, I do plan to lower the car, get a tune and some other mods so swapping out the Renntech lsd is just another mod to me, what would you do?

Mar 21, 2012 | 11:03 AM

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i thought if you got the performance pack it automatically had the LSD?

Mar 21, 2012 | 11:07 AM

Joyride

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i thought if you got the performance pack it automatically had the LSD?

That was my understanding as well...

Mar 21, 2012 | 11:09 AM

Joyride

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This is what comes with the Performance Package:

AMG Carbon Fibre Trim
AMG 19" 5-twin-spoke alloy wheels
Performance Package
Sport Suspension
AMG Performance Steering Wheel
Red Brake Calipers
Electronic Speed Limiter Deletion
Tire Pressure Monitoring System
Additional Horsepower
Limited-Slip Rear Differential

Mar 22, 2012 | 08:04 AM

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2005 E55 drowned/ 2011 CTS-v coupe gone/ 2012 E63 PP,LSD finally here

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I wish it did, unfortunately the lsd is factory code471 and costs $2,030 and the twin spoke wheels are factory code793 and cost $1,790 these two options are not part of the P30 pp package (I wish they were) so this particular car that I'm considering does not have the factory lsd and I am wondering if it would be worth buying and having the Renntech lsd installed afterwords, what do you guys think?

Mar 22, 2012 | 08:31 AM

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Just go with a quaife lsd, they the best out there. You won't be sorry.

Mar 22, 2012 | 06:49 PM

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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).

Definitely, the Quaife LSD is the best from what I hvae heard. It sounds like a good deal. Yes!--Another no-pano believer coming along.

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Mar 23, 2012 | 09:14 AM

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2005 E55 drowned/ 2011 CTS-v coupe gone/ 2012 E63 PP,LSD finally here

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yes def no pano roof, also Quafie does not make a unit for this car only Renntech and their unit is $3600, so that's about my only option

I might have stated this too early as there is another thread stating that Quafie does indeed make a unit for the 212 E63 twin turbo car, can anyone please confirm this, it would be a tremendous help

Mar 23, 2012 | 05:02 PM

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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).

I wonder if Quaife can be contacted directly to see if a compatible unit is available.

Mar 23, 2012 | 08:24 PM

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2005 E55 drowned/ 2011 CTS-v coupe gone/ 2012 E63 PP,LSD finally here

I don't think the Quafie will work I did a little research and the rear out of a 2011 E63 and the rear out of a 2012 E63 have different part numbers so the Quafie probably won't work, on another note I can get a new complete lsd rear from the dealer for $3300 so that's another option besides the Renntech

Mar 24, 2012 | 12:28 AM

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Pretty sure PP comes with LSD
It's also a stand alone option for cars without PP.

Mar 24, 2012 | 04:19 PM

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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).

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That's bummer. So MB dealer can get the LSD for $3300--I figure that is possible. That was not the case last Nov when I asked the closest MB dealer, which is a real scam dealership that no one should ever go to so it's no wonder I got BS answer like that. Is the price for an oem LSD? How much is the installation at the dealer? I assume it will not void the warranty when installed at the dealer, right?

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Pretty sure PP comes with LSD
It's also a stand alone option for cars without PP.

LSD comes with the performance package on '10 and '11 cars. LSD is a separate option start in '12.

Mar 25, 2012 | 12:19 PM

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i keep thinking is it better to not get the PP on the car but instead get the Renntech stage 1 ECU and Quaife LSD - $8500 vs - $5500

Mar 25, 2012 | 03:17 PM

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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).

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i keep thinking is it better to not get the PP on the car but instead get the Renntech stage 1 ECU and Quaife LSD - $8500 vs - $5500

Thinking about it--that's quite true. Of course, the only thing missing will be the stiffer spring and possibly the factory warranty.

Mar 27, 2012 | 02:32 PM

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Thinking about it--that's quite true. Of course, the only thing missing will be the stiffer spring and possibly the factory warranty.

It would be a gamble on the warranty. I'd think the thing to do would be find a MBZ dealer local that does Renntech installations and more than likely is "warranty friendly" to them. I know at least one dealer down here sells/installs Renntech items.

Regardless it would void warranty on things the installed items can effect. So the rear diff probably is nothing to even begin to worry about in regards to the factory warranty. The ECU tune on the other hand I could see someone worrying about but would greatly depend on just how long do they plan to keep their car.