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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 07:39 PM
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EBC Redstuff dust just as bad as OEM! Any other recommendations?

Installed the Redstuff last week and broke in.

Late last night I buffed my entire car spotless, after work today (car was parked all night and day in the garage, not driven) I washed my wheels by hand, then I drove 25 miles.

Pics show the results of 25 miles of driving. JUNK.

So seriously, what pads don't dust? Because it sure isn't these....
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 07:53 PM
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We have dust free pads for your car.

http://www.world-motorsports.com/mer...63/brakes.html
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 08:06 PM
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But $900 for brake pads?! I think I have $227 into the full four corners of Redstuff 😐
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 08:08 PM
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At first I thought the dust was red from the pads lol , I been using the Centric Posi Quiet there not dust free but much better than stock at least 50% less dust there a semi metallic pad , I also heard the company racing brake makes a good low dust pads , I might try those next.
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 08:58 PM
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But $900 for brake pads?! I think I have $227 into the full four corners of Redstuff 😐
They are expensive but they work really well. They are made for us by Project Mu and are 100% dust free.
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 09:15 PM
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My CCB have almost no dust lol 😂
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 09:47 PM
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The redstuff is a very aggressive pad. I believe if you want low dust, you need to go to their green or yellow lines. Reds are for max performance, and you are gonna get more dust.

You want a good ceramic, Akebono or Centric offer as do many others. If you're looking for improved bite over stock, you will most likely have to deal with some dust.

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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
The redstuff is a very aggressive pad. I believe if you want low dust, you need to go to their green or yellow lines. Reds are for max performance, and you are gonna get more dust.

You want a good ceramic, Akebono or Centric offer as do many others. If you're looking for improved bite over stock, you will most likely have to deal with some dust.

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Wasn't looking for more bite, was looking for the "low dust" that EBC markets their Redstuff as. The yellow is more aggressive than red and more dust.

I out akebono on my SL63 to stop the dust but they don't seem to make pads for this car.
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 10:50 PM
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They've updated their product line since I last looked, my mistake.

I'm surprised they market them as ultra low dust and you have that much dirt on the car. Are you sure it's all brake dust? Having it down the side of the body isn't normally just from the brakes.
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Yes, it is absolutely brake dust.

And almost every late-model AMG paints the sides of the car with brake dust from the factory.
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 12:40 AM
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I've had really good luck with the RacingBrake setup (pads and rotors). The picture below is from a little more than a week of driving, about 200 to 300 miles. FYI, I wiped my finger across the entire length of one of the spokes.

Prior to changing the pads/rotors, I was getting terrible dust with the OEM parts, but just on the front. Although the front OEM rotors were within the thickness spec, they were heavily grooved. At the same time, the rears looked "normal" with no grooving. With that said, I'm not sure if the dust was coming from the pad or the rotor, but without doing a chemical analysis on the dust, we'll never know.

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TRW pads have been very very low dust and slightly better initial bite than stock. Not sure about overall grip, but like them so far. No weird noises either.
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They are expensive but they work really well. They are made for us by Project Mu and are 100% dust free.
Guarantee 100% dust free? Or more like 95% / really good. I'd be interested in trying them because I hate cleaning wheels with a lot of spokes and with the factory brakes I have right now I can wash my car in the driveway, pull back into the garage, and dusty.
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Guarantee 100% dust free? Or more like 95% / really good. I'd be interested in trying them because I hate cleaning wheels with a lot of spokes and with the factory brakes I have right now I can wash my car in the driveway, pull back into the garage, and dusty.
They are dust free.
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There is no such thing called "dust free" pad unless you only park your car in the garage and never use the brake.

All semi-metallic pads all have carbon contents, so is the cast iron and the brake dust is a combined emmission of pad and rotor.

Low dust compound yet still can deliver a good friction torque, and modulation (brake control) is all about the best you can expect, you should not believe nor expect a dust free pad, it never exists nor it will stop you car even if there were one.

Read this real life testimonial from an SL550 owner, and learn how RB brake pads making this MB owner so happy.

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https://mbworld.org/forums/sl-class-...ml#post5939978
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There is no such thing called "dust free" pad unless you only park your car in the garage and never use the brake.

All semi-metallic pads all have carbon contents, so is the cast iron and the brake dust is a combined emission of pad and rotor.

Low dust compound yet still can deliver a good friction torque, and modulation (brake control) is all about the best you can expect, you should not believe nor expect a dust free pad, it never exists nor it will stop you car even if there were one.

Read this real life testimonial from an SL550 owner, and learn how RB brake pads making this MB owner so happy.

Racing Brake makes me happy

https://mbworld.org/forums/sl-class-...ml#post5939978
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Old Apr 7, 2017 | 01:56 AM
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I have EBC red stuff pads on my 2013 C350 4matic coupe. Love the stopping power, not crazy about the brake dust.

Try using this. It does work.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LWQ1GAC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491544445&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=armor+all+outlas t+brake+dust+repellent
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Old Apr 7, 2017 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RacingBrake
There is no such thing called "dust free" pad unless you only park your car in the garage and never use the brake.

All semi-metallic pads all have carbon contents, so is the cast iron and the brake dust is a combined emission of pad and rotor.

Low dust compound yet still can deliver a good friction torque, and modulation (brake control) is all about the best you can expect, you should not believe nor expect a dust free pad, it never exists nor it will stop you car even if there were one.

Read this real life testimonial from an SL550 owner, and learn how RB brake pads making this MB owner so happy.

Racing Brake makes me happy

https://mbworld.org/forums/sl-class-...ml#post5939978
Thete is a forum member that seems happy running your discs and street pads and work well with little dust , but how do they work with stock rotors? Are stock rotors softer vs RB rotors ? Also how come RB pads don't come with the harmonic balancers on the pads aren't they there for a reason?
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Originally Posted by 10speed
Thete is a forum member that seems happy running your discs and street pads and work well with little dust , but how do they work with stock rotors? Are stock rotors softer vs RB rotors ? Also how come RB pads don't come with the harmonic balancers on the pads aren't they there for a reason?
I removed the balances off of my OEM pads to fit 17" wheels with no ill effects...
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Old Apr 7, 2017 | 02:26 PM
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Agreed to your (smart) move. These things (Harmonic balancers) were in our observation, totally useless except adding the weight (you see a lot of them on Porsches' Cayenne, Boxster and 911 etc.).

In fact you will also see sometimes they were added to calipers (Like BMW 135i) for the same intended purposes - Reducing the noise, but we work on the pad compounds which we believe is the most authentic source of annoyed noise/squeak and proven works in various communities.
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Old Apr 7, 2017 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 10speed
Thete is a forum member that seems happy running your discs and street pads and work well with little dust , but how do they work with stock rotors? Are stock rotors softer vs RB rotors ? Also how come RB pads don't come with the harmonic balancers on the pads aren't they there for a reason?
RB rotor discs are made with alloyed iron and heat-treated to a hardness around 190 Brinell hardness scale, so they will never groove on you like OE soft rotors and is attested to last longer than 100,000 street/track miles.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ml#post6831579

Formulating a compound for harder iron is "harder" than for a soft iron, due to harder surface is more prone to squeaking noise but we was able to achieve that (performance w/o squeaking at low dust) for our rotor, so our pad should work well with "softer" rotors (OE or aftermarket) w/o compatibility concern.

All our brake parts carry a complete satisfaction guarantee, so no risk to try them out.
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