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Old Oct 6, 2020 | 07:09 PM
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Misfire due to bad #6 ignition coil?

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I'm gonna pull the trigger on a 2015 E63 AMG S (black on black) from a non-MB dealer. It's a one-owner and low miles. It has clean carfax except that it has done some repair at a local shop (July of this year). So I called them to figure out what was it. They said they replaced the #6 ignition coil due to misfire. Is this a red flag? Also, I'm having hard time to purchase extended warranty for this car because it's out of factory warranty already (called Jeff and he's been super helpful providing me all the information though he couldn't sell me the warranty). Route66 only sells 1st street coverage for AMG (is this good enough?).

Btw, please also recommend good maintenance/repair shop for AMG in the greater Seattle area.

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Old Oct 6, 2020 | 08:45 PM
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check out https://www.extended-vehicle-warranty.com/
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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 10:01 AM
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Very very common to need to replace ignition coils on this engine around 30-40k miles, not a red flag; also have them consider replacing and indexing all the plugs and replacing all the rest of the 7 coils.

heres a video of my DIY for coils

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post8073603

also - ask them if the car is tuned, I suspect it may be.

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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Very very common to need to replace ignition coils on this engine around 30-40k miles, not a red flag; also have them consider replacing and indexing all the plugs and replacing all the rest of the 7 coils.

heres a video of my DIY for coils

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post8073603

also - ask them if the car is tuned, I suspect it may be.
OH nice! Thanks for the information. Seems not hard for DIY. So I'm gonna do all the rest 7 myself. They wouldn't know about if it's tuned or not as they got the car from an auction. The only way to find out is to bring to a dealer for PPI? If it's tuned, then it's more likely to misfire and require the replacement of ignition coils?
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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 12:58 PM
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OH nice! Thanks for the information. Seems not hard for DIY. So I'm gonna do all the rest 7 myself. They wouldn't know about if it's tuned or not as they got the car from an auction. The only way to find out is to bring to a dealer for PPI? If it's tuned, then it's more likely to misfire and require the replacement of ignition coils?
Couple ways to find out if tuned:

inspect the ecu to see if it's been opened .. there is a silicone seal that would be evident sometimes that's more sloppy by some tuners; the dealer will be able to tell you or a tuner will be able to tell you when they inspect the ecu data

time it -- 0-60 and 1/4 mile ... and compare to stock


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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 12:59 PM
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If tuned and running lots of boost more likely to misfire also the tune taxes the spark plugs and the coils more than the stock tune. Also bad gas can cause misfires

also... colder plugs with narrow gap can reduce misfires on an aggressively tuned engine

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Old Oct 7, 2020 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
If tuned and running lots of boost more likely to misfire also the tune taxes the spark plugs and the coils more than the stock tune. Also bad gas can cause misfires

also... colder plugs with narrow gap can reduce misfires on an aggressively tuned engine
Thanks! I will take the car to MB dealer for PPI then. If it's tuned, I won't purchase it.
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Old Oct 10, 2020 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by hardyli
Thanks! I will take the car to MB dealer for PPI then. If it's tuned, I won't purchase it.
Check out some of the misfire posts. Often it happens on the front two cylinders. There were some valve issues. It seemed like they weren't fixed and MB may know of them. If it is just a coil. It's not a big deal. I would imagine these could misfire stock. Mine stock if I pushed it before the colder spark plugs it would also buck a bit.
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