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2014 AMG E63 S212 | 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport Q4
Rough shift 2nd to 3rd after trans fluid change
Recently did a transmission fluid and filter change. Followed spec, filled to overfill then got the dripping and sealed it, how its explained in the tech docs.
What is happening is that normal driving in S+ or C is fine. No issues what so ever. However, once i put heavy load on it (80% or full WOT from a stop, 1st rolling, or 2nd rolling) it almost as if it doesn't grab the gear. I hit rev limiter and it then grabs OR it hits revs and then the whole car shakes for a moment then it grabs and goes. Hard from 3 to 4 is completely fine, had to find a long enough empty road to test it - but it works.
Trying to see if this is something that will work its way out or if its something that requires attention right away.
I did do the readapt (car on, not started, lights on dash, gas pedal down to kick down for 10s, turn car off, release, wait 2 min) and it didn't seem to help. Ill also say 1/5 times i go from 2nd to 3rd hard, it does grab the gear correctly and work..
2014 AMG E63 S212 | 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport Q4
So update
Did adapt for the 5th time, now 3rd no longer shudders, but it also doesn't kick hard, it's a smooth grab and change....so...going to keep an eye on it...not sure if fluids high or low but if there is an issue I'm thinking it's fill related....
You may not like this answer, but I had shift flare issues after a service using that FCP kit with the Top Tec fluid. That is not MB approved despite Top Tec saying it will work, I ignored another review stating the same thing and figured the guy hadn't set the level correctly.
Knowing that I did, I bought the other kit with the Pentosin 134 FE fluid that IS approved and it got rid of the flare. FCP will credit it but I have to send all my old fluid back which is just a pain in the rear....
I highly recommend avoiding this fluid, apparently our transmissions are quite picky!
2014 AMG E63 S212 | 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport Q4
Originally Posted by GinDistiller
You may not like this answer, but I had shift flare issues after a service using that FCP kit with the Top Tec fluid. That is not MB approved despite Top Tec saying it will work, I ignored another review stating the same thing and figured the guy hadn't set the level correctly.
Knowing that I did, I bought the other kit with the Pentosin 134 FE fluid that IS approved and it got rid of the flare. FCP will credit it but I have to send all my old fluid back which is just a pain in the rear....
I highly recommend avoiding this fluid, apparently our transmissions are quite picky!
Yeah.... ****. Im slipping into 2nd on a hard acceleration....guess she's getting drained again.
2014 AMG E63 S212 | 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport Q4
Originally Posted by 5soko
OEM fluid is a must and filter please. Also, sometimes, some miles after a fluid change or adaption change, will help work things out.
Well, intent is to always use oem or equivalent, however trusted off both FCP Euro & LiquiMoly site...both said this is what's needed for our transmissions...the top tech atf.
2014 AMG E63 S212 | 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport Q4
Posting now because i failed to update, and i got here based on a google search and i don't want to be this comic:
I drove it another week. No change kept slipping and hard - even on not super enthusiastic acceleration. I swapped the kit out for this - https://www.fcpeuro.com/.../mercedes-722-9-transmission... and the issue was solved. It was still a smig sketchy for about a day, but only REALLY hard acceleration caused it (RS) - however that cleared up in about a week.
Posting now because i failed to update, and i got here based on a google search and i don't want to be this comic:
I drove it another week. No change kept slipping and hard - even on not super enthusiastic acceleration. I swapped the kit out for this - https://www.fcpeuro.com/.../mercedes-722-9-transmission... and the issue was solved. It was still a smig sketchy for about a day, but only REALLY hard acceleration caused it (RS) - however that cleared up in about a week.
nice! I added this to the sticky thanks for completing the story
Posting now because i failed to update, and i got here based on a google search and i don't want to be this comic:
I drove it another week. No change kept slipping and hard - even on not super enthusiastic acceleration. I swapped the kit out for this - https://www.fcpeuro.com/.../mercedes-722-9-transmission... and the issue was solved. It was still a smig sketchy for about a day, but only REALLY hard acceleration caused it (RS) - however that cleared up in about a week.
Thanks for the update. Glad it is resolved for you.
Thank you for sharing. I am going through this exact same thing at the moment. Had a fender bender and the car was down for a few months. The trans cooler was shot so I had them top off the trans fluid. As soon as I got it back it wouldn't even go WOT. Felt like the trans would pop out of gear and then pop back in. Slipping or complete throttle cut. Regardless, I drained it and filled it with the only 236.15 fluid I could find locally. (I was impatient) and now, I think I'll have to do this all over again. What a PITA but thank you for the post.
Posting now because i failed to update, and i got here based on a google search and i don't want to be this comic:
I drove it another week. No change kept slipping and hard - even on not super enthusiastic acceleration. I swapped the kit out for this - https://www.fcpeuro.com/.../mercedes-722-9-transmission... and the issue was solved. It was still a smig sketchy for about a day, but only REALLY hard acceleration caused it (RS) - however that cleared up in about a week.
If your car was cold there wasn't enough fluid. It has to cycle while hot to make sure you have enough fluid. I don't want to say whether it was or wasn't the Amsoil since thats not the point. I'm relieved that your car is working
If your car was cold there wasn't enough fluid. It has to cycle while hot to make sure you have enough fluid. I don't want to say whether it was or wasn't the Amsoil since thats not the point. I'm relieved that your car is working
You are a straight up good guy Chris. I will say, for the record, my e63s LOVES the Amsoil ATF I put in it a few months ago! Thank you for helping me get a great product. I’ll be placing another order for my e550 before long
If your car was cold there wasn't enough fluid. It has to cycle while hot to make sure you have enough fluid. I don't want to say whether it was or wasn't the Amsoil since thats not the point. I'm relieved that your car is working
Agree, I confirmed with my tech, he actually used Amsoil Signature Series and did the fluid change again, setting the level with the engine running (after running through some gears, etc...)
You are a straight up good guy Chris. I will say, for the record, my e63s LOVES the Amsoil ATF I put in it a few months ago! Thank you for helping me get a great product. I’ll be placing another order for my e550 before long
Originally Posted by Bertie_
Agree, I confirmed with my tech, he actually used Amsoil Signature Series and did the fluid change again, setting the level with the engine running (after running through some gears, etc...)
Transmission shifts 10/10 perfect.
Yeah the problem with good products is nobody is going to take the time to give continual updates if stuff works well and keeps on ticking. I appreciate the business you guys. IF Amsoil lubricants were to ever let you down I'd never try to disprove your experience I'd always weigh it against mine
You want to drain it ripping hot so it brings all the dirt out with it, then fill it, then attempt to fill it like 1/2-to a full quart while running to get the air out. You were probably 1 quart shy.. but I always measure what comes out vs what goes in and its usually within a 1/2 bottle or less regardless of the fluid. It ALWAYS measures 5.5-6 coming out and I sometimes run an extra quart to make 7 to rinse the old stuff out although if you do it regularly enough this probably doesn't make a difference at all.
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