Got a shiny streak on my matte Edition 1- how to fix?? - MBWorld.org Forums

Go Back  MBWorld.org Forums > Mercedes-Benz AMG Vehicles > E55 AMG, E63 AMG, E43AMG (W210, W211, W212,W213) > W213 AMG
Got a shiny streak on my matte Edition 1- how to fix?? >

Got a shiny streak on my matte Edition 1- how to fix??

W213 AMG Discuss the W213 AMG - 2017/2018
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Got a shiny streak on my matte Edition 1- how to fix??

Reply

 
 
 
Old 02-03-2018, 12:26 PM
  #1  
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Vic55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: THE Orange County, California
Posts: 11,379
Thanked 435 Times in 318 Posts
2017 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2017 Audi RS7 Performance, 2017 C63S Coupe, 2012 C63 BS
Got a shiny streak on my matte Edition 1- how to fix??

It appears my detailer made a mistake and used a towel with some wax or polish that ended up creating a streak on my door. I have matte oem paint and now there is a bit of shine that I can tell is there. Is there a way to fix this?

Any chemicals or solvents on the market?

Last edited by Vic55; 02-03-2018 at 01:48 PM.
Vic55 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2018, 03:42 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 425
Thanked 44 Times in 35 Posts
2018 e63s
clearly...

Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
It appears my detailer made a mistake and used a towel with some wax or polish that ended up creating a streak on my door. I have matte oem paint and now there is a bit of shine that I can tell is there. Is there a way to fix this?

Any chemicals or solvents on the market?
trade the car lol... seriously I donít know but there should be something that strips it out down to the clear coat.
orenlasko is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2018, 03:45 PM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jan AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Autobahn
Posts: 1,198
Thanked 49 Times in 44 Posts
S63, CLS63S, 500SE
try a detailing forum instead and let us know
Jan AMG is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2018, 03:51 PM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Midwest.
Posts: 4,189
Thanked 275 Times in 224 Posts
'18 E63s ED1, '17 SL550, '14 ML350
I would try to call Dr. Beasley. A good crew with excellent knowledge on matte paint as they have developed special matte paint products.

This product may be a fit for your needs but I would still call them…
https://www.drbeasleys.com/matte-paint-cleanser.html

Good luck!
Wolfman is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2018, 04:40 PM
  #5  
Super Member
 
stealth.pilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 728
Thanked 92 Times in 65 Posts
2018 Mercedes-AMG E63S
Typically the best way to remove any glossy oils from the surface of a car is to wash with a solution of water and dishwashing liquid. That will strip the surface bare of any oils or coatings. Do this first.

Then follow it up with a coating of a protectant. The best protectants are Nanolex Matte Paint Sealant or Dr Beasley's Matte Paint Sealant.

The other thing to watch out for going forward is don't use any car wash liquid on the car. A lot of car wash liquids have built-in waxes to enhance gloss. Best to use a matte wash.

Bunch of suitable supplies for matte car care here.

https://www.detailersdomain.com/coll...matte-car-care

If you wash your car yourself and can't be bothered to dry the car and then apply a sealant, and rinse again. Then a simple solution is Permanon Supermatte. You just spray it on while the car is still wet, rinse and dry. Easiest way to protect the car.

https://www.autogeek.net/permanon-su...rotection.html

Last edited by stealth.pilot; 02-03-2018 at 04:44 PM.
stealth.pilot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2018, 06:12 PM
  #6  
Super Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: S.F. Bay Area, CA
Posts: 589
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
'04 E500; '10 Audi R8 V10; '16 Acura RDX; '14 Acura MDX
Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
It appears my detailer made a mistake and used a towel with some wax or polish that ended up creating a streak on my door. I have matte oem paint and now there is a bit of shine that I can tell is there. Is there a way to fix this?

Any chemicals or solvents on the market?
Yikes! This is my biggest fear with matte paint which I have never had, and which I have on order. I hope I'm wrong, but it sounds as if they polished this portion partially??? If this is the case, from what I have read, there isn't too much you can do.
CALBenzo is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2018, 10:41 PM
  #7  
Super Member
 
stealth.pilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 728
Thanked 92 Times in 65 Posts
2018 Mercedes-AMG E63S
Originally Posted by CALBenzo View Post
Yikes! This is my biggest fear with matte paint which I have never had, and which I have on order. I hope I'm wrong, but it sounds as if they polished this portion partially??? If this is the case, from what I have read, there isn't too much you can do.
Don't stress about it too much. I had a BMW in Frozen Gray (same as Magno Selenite Gray). It is hard to polish the finish accidentally. It requires the kind of material which buffs the paint to polish it - like a polishing pad. A regular microfiber or wash mitt won't cause the paint to become shiny.

Sometimes you might temporarily get too much gloss because you are using washes which contain wax and oils. That build-up is easily removed with detergent. If you use a plain car wash or a matte one you won't have any issues.

To me the frozen gray is the lowest maintenance paint you can buy. You can go for a month without the car looking dirty because dust just makes the car look more matte. If you have a CR Spotless system you can just wash your car, hose it off with the CR Spotless rinse, and you're done. You don't need to dry the car, because there won't be water marks, and tiny bits of mineral won't be visible on matte paint. Also you never need to detail or polish your car. Applying sealant is super easy - most products are spray on and wipe off. That's it.

Happy to answer any questions about matte paint finishes. I am a huge fan of these finishes. From my perspective they cost less to maintain, require less washing, and look better.
stealth.pilot is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to stealth.pilot For This Useful Post:
CALBenzo (02-04-2018)
Old 02-04-2018, 12:27 AM
  #8  
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Vic55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: THE Orange County, California
Posts: 11,379
Thanked 435 Times in 318 Posts
2017 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2017 Audi RS7 Performance, 2017 C63S Coupe, 2012 C63 BS
Originally Posted by Jan AMG View Post
try a detailing forum instead and let us know
Nah, the good members here are all I need...


Anyways thanks Stealth and Wolf, I appreciate the direction and will update soon enough.
Vic55 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2018, 12:34 AM
  #9  
Super Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Southern California
Posts: 539
Thanked 114 Times in 89 Posts
2018 E63S AMG
I did notice that the Edition 1 at the Nashville dealer had a few spots that needed to be detailed. Not shiny spots so much as looked more like an liquid that hadn't dried like maybe a light oil or something.

They said that is the last of 4 unsold ED 1s in the US.

I had stopped in Nashville to have my rear diff fluid changed at the 2000 mile mark on my drive back to SD.

More on my odyssey on a new thread. Not going well so far
E634Me is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2018, 11:24 AM
  #10  
Super Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: S.F. Bay Area, CA
Posts: 589
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
'04 E500; '10 Audi R8 V10; '16 Acura RDX; '14 Acura MDX
Originally Posted by stealth.pilot View Post
Don't stress about it too much. I had a BMW in Frozen Gray (same as Magno Selenite Gray). It is hard to polish the finish accidentally. It requires the kind of material which buffs the paint to polish it - like a polishing pad. A regular microfiber or wash mitt won't cause the paint to become shiny.

Sometimes you might temporarily get too much gloss because you are using washes which contain wax and oils. That build-up is easily removed with detergent. If you use a plain car wash or a matte one you won't have any issues.

To me the frozen gray is the lowest maintenance paint you can buy. You can go for a month without the car looking dirty because dust just makes the car look more matte. If you have a CR Spotless system you can just wash your car, hose it off with the CR Spotless rinse, and you're done. You don't need to dry the car, because there won't be water marks, and tiny bits of mineral won't be visible on matte paint. Also you never need to detail or polish your car. Applying sealant is super easy - most products are spray on and wipe off. That's it.

Happy to answer any questions about matte paint finishes. I am a huge fan of these finishes. From my perspective they cost less to maintain, require less washing, and look better.
Thanks!! Puts my mind more at ease! I especially like the low maintenance part.
CALBenzo is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2018, 03:43 PM
  #11  
SPONSOR
 
BlackC230Coupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: South Florida
Posts: 12,306
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
08' Viper SRT10 & 08' S550
Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
It appears my detailer made a mistake and used a towel with some wax or polish that ended up creating a streak on my door. I have matte oem paint and now there is a bit of shine that I can tell is there. Is there a way to fix this?

Any chemicals or solvents on the market?
Hey Vic

Hopefully you got it out by now, but if not I would try this Swissvax wax made specially for matte paint. I have tried it, it has got off some odd marks that were on matte paint off. Also protects it, because even though it's matte, it still can use some protection.

http://www.swissvax.us/merchant.mvc?...Code=SE1015117
BlackC230Coupe is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 10:11 AM
  #12  
Super Member
 
stealth.pilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 728
Thanked 92 Times in 65 Posts
2018 Mercedes-AMG E63S
Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
Nah, the good members here are all I need...


Anyways thanks Stealth and Wolf, I appreciate the direction and will update soon enough.
Did you manage to fix it?
stealth.pilot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 02:25 PM
  #13  
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Vic55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: THE Orange County, California
Posts: 11,379
Thanked 435 Times in 318 Posts
2017 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2017 Audi RS7 Performance, 2017 C63S Coupe, 2012 C63 BS
Originally Posted by stealth.pilot View Post


Did you manage to fix it?
Ive been out of the state for over a week, I have a guy coming out to the house who is well known in the biz to try. But I fear it will require a repaint or I could just stealth wrap the door?
Vic55 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 11:25 PM
  #14  
Super Member
 
stealth.pilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 728
Thanked 92 Times in 65 Posts
2018 Mercedes-AMG E63S
Originally Posted by Vic55
Ive been out of the state for over a week, I have a guy coming out to the house who is well known in the biz to try. But I fear it will require a repaint or I could just stealth wrap the door?
With the stealth wrap you would still notice a difference between that door and the other door.

Not sure what the previous guy did, but there are only two ways to make it permanently glossy:
1) To apply a glossy permanent coating like Optigloss (which can only be removed by polishing)
2) To buff it with a polishing pad.

Typically neither of these things would happen accidentally! It would require serious incompetence to do that by mistake!

Anything else (e.g. having carnauba or sealant on a microfiber) should come off with an IPA wipe down followed by Dishwashing liquid wash.

BTW if it won't come off, trying the Swissvax opaque might be a good option before using the stealth wrap. The Swissvax is different to the matte sealants I recommended because it actually costs the car in an opaque wax. So that might do the trick since it is like reapplying matte stuff on top of the glossy stuff.
stealth.pilot is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2018, 07:02 AM
  #15  
Member
 
CLS63AMG15NC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 146
Thanked 15 Times in 9 Posts
'18 E63 AMG S ED1, '18 C63 AMG S
I matte clear bra'd my whole Edition 1 car and cermic pro'd. It took out any small blemishes from the factory and I don't sweat getting it washed!

Last edited by CLS63AMG15NC; 02-12-2018 at 07:04 PM.
CLS63AMG15NC is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2018, 10:54 AM
  #16  
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Vic55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: THE Orange County, California
Posts: 11,379
Thanked 435 Times in 318 Posts
2017 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2017 Audi RS7 Performance, 2017 C63S Coupe, 2012 C63 BS
Originally Posted by stealth.pilot View Post
With the stealth wrap you would still notice a difference between that door and the other door.

Not sure what the previous guy did, but there are only two ways to make it permanently glossy:
1) To apply a glossy permanent coating like Optigloss (which can only be removed by polishing)
2) To buff it with a polishing pad.

Typically neither of these things would happen accidentally! It would require serious incompetence to do that by mistake!

Anything else (e.g. having carnauba or sealant on a microfiber) should come off with an IPA wipe down followed by Dishwashing liquid wash.

BTW if it won't come off, trying the Swissvax opaque might be a good option before using the stealth wrap. The Swissvax is different to the matte sealants I recommended because it actually costs the car in an opaque wax. So that might do the trick since it is like reapplying matte stuff on top of the glossy stuff.
I think you are right, we are going to test the wrap after we try the chemicals first. And I agree, serious incompetence here. I can always have the door sprayed.... Just looking for easier fixes than paint.
Vic55 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2018, 11:34 AM
  #17  
Super Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Southern California
Posts: 539
Thanked 114 Times in 89 Posts
2018 E63S AMG
I have to admit, this does have me a bit paranoid about taking my car to any of the local car washes.

My CR Spotless filters arrived a couple of days ago. It came with some soap and finishing products, but they both talk about leaving your car with a nice shine.

I'll save those for my other cars. Ordered some matte products from Adams and some separate towels that I'll keep for use just with the E63 so as to avoid any accidental wax transfer.

Also ordering a new pressure washer as my current one has been acting up. Moving up to a gas powered unit I think, so recommendations welcome.

Will be interested in seeing how your wrap goes Vic. I did pick up a small chip on the hood on the way home, which I don't feel too bad about considering what happened with the windshield. But once I get that fixed, I'm seriously considering a wrap.
E634Me is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2018, 11:52 AM
  #18  
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Vic55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: THE Orange County, California
Posts: 11,379
Thanked 435 Times in 318 Posts
2017 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2017 Audi RS7 Performance, 2017 C63S Coupe, 2012 C63 BS
Originally Posted by E634Me View Post
I have to admit, this does have me a bit paranoid about taking my car to any of the local car washes.

My CR Spotless filters arrived a couple of days ago. It came with some soap and finishing products, but they both talk about leaving your car with a nice shine.

I'll save those for my other cars. Ordered some matte products from Adams and some separate towels that I'll keep for use just with the E63 so as to avoid any accidental wax transfer.

Also ordering a new pressure washer as my current one has been acting up. Moving up to a gas powered unit I think, so recommendations welcome.

Will be interested in seeing how your wrap goes Vic. I did pick up a small chip on the hood on the way home, which I don't feel too bad about considering what happened with the windshield. But once I get that fixed, I'm seriously considering a wrap.
I trade a chip for a shine all day on my car. While chips cant be fixed you can get the matte touch up paint which isnt all too bad. I only wrapped my front and there is no way that shine should have occurred but my guy made a mistake and while it was a bad one, he has been washing my cars at my house for over 12 years and the law of averages caught up.

In reality I think Matte paint is rather easy to take care of--- wipe downs are easy with the right sprays and no need to worry about clear coat scratches/blemishes like a gloss finish. Its only when you get a scratch or chip or a very bad mistake does the paint suffer and the problem is the ability to fix. So maintenance is very easy but repair is not.
Vic55 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2018, 12:39 PM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Midwest.
Posts: 4,189
Thanked 275 Times in 224 Posts
'18 E63s ED1, '17 SL550, '14 ML350
Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
I trade a chip for a shine all day on my car. While chips cant be fixed you can get the matte touch up paint which isnt all too bad. I only wrapped my front and there is no way that shine should have occurred but my guy made a mistake and while it was a bad one, he has been washing my cars at my house for over 12 years and the law of averages caught up.

In reality I think Matte paint is rather easy to take care of--- wipe downs are easy with the right sprays and no need to worry about clear coat scratches/blemishes like a gloss finish. Its only when you get a scratch or chip or a very bad mistake does the paint suffer and the problem is the ability to fix. So maintenance is very easy but repair is not.
I hope a re-spray isn't needed. Check out this article: https://www.drbeasleys.com/blog/2017...cedes-stained/
Really like the matte paint care products from those guys...
Good luck!
Wolfman is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Wolfman For This Useful Post:
nynd (02-12-2018), Vic55 (02-12-2018)
Old 02-12-2018, 01:01 PM
  #20  
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Vic55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: THE Orange County, California
Posts: 11,379
Thanked 435 Times in 318 Posts
2017 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2017 Audi RS7 Performance, 2017 C63S Coupe, 2012 C63 BS
Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post
I hope a re-spray isn't needed. Check out this article: https://www.drbeasleys.com/blog/2017...cedes-stained/
Really like the matte paint care products from those guys...
Good luck!
Ordered!!!!!!!! I hope it works and that shine in the link is just like mine!!!

Vic55 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2018, 01:24 PM
  #21  
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Vic55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: THE Orange County, California
Posts: 11,379
Thanked 435 Times in 318 Posts
2017 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2017 Audi RS7 Performance, 2017 C63S Coupe, 2012 C63 BS
Originally Posted by stealth.pilot View Post
With the stealth wrap you would still notice a difference between that door and the other door.
I forgot to add- I have Stealth Wrap on my front bumper and sides with no color variation so this would be my final fix if needed. Beasley's first though.
Vic55 is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Vic55 For This Useful Post:
CLS63AMG15NC (02-12-2018)
Old 02-13-2018, 09:24 AM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
24Hours's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NYC area
Posts: 282
Thanked 37 Times in 32 Posts
'16.5 Landrover Landmark ('19 AMG wagon on the way)
Originally Posted by stealth.pilot View Post
Typically the best way to remove any glossy oils from the surface of a car is to wash with a solution of water and dishwashing liquid. That will strip the surface bare of any oils or coatings. Do this first.

Then follow it up with a coating of a protectant. The best protectants are Nanolex Matte Paint Sealant or Dr Beasley's Matte Paint Sealant.

The other thing to watch out for going forward is don't use any car wash liquid on the car. A lot of car wash liquids have built-in waxes to enhance gloss. Best to use a matte wash.

Bunch of suitable supplies for matte car care here.

https://www.detailersdomain.com/coll...matte-car-care

If you wash your car yourself and can't be bothered to dry the car and then apply a sealant, and rinse again. Then a simple solution is Permanon Supermatte. You just spray it on while the car is still wet, rinse and dry. Easiest way to protect the car.

https://www.autogeek.net/permanon-su...rotection.html
This is great information... thank you for sharing.
24Hours is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2018, 11:18 AM
  #23  
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Vic55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: THE Orange County, California
Posts: 11,379
Thanked 435 Times in 318 Posts
2017 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2017 Audi RS7 Performance, 2017 C63S Coupe, 2012 C63 BS
Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post
I hope a re-spray isn't needed. Check out this article: https://www.drbeasleys.com/blog/2017...cedes-stained/
Really like the matte paint care products from those guys...
Good luck!
So I have probably done 10 applications over 2 days and the shine has definitely come down but its still there. I am going to keep applying applications over the next few days.

Again thanks for this info.
Vic55 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2018, 12:55 PM
  #24  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Midwest.
Posts: 4,189
Thanked 275 Times in 224 Posts
'18 E63s ED1, '17 SL550, '14 ML350
Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
So I have probably done 10 applications over 2 days and the shine has definitely come down but its still there. I am going to keep applying applications over the next few days.

Again thanks for this info.
You might want to call Dr. Beasley; they may have a couple suggestions of how to get ride of the remaining shine. Hope you get everything out. Good luck!
Wolfman is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2018, 01:12 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
pbaylog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Aurora IL
Posts: 264
Thanks: 0
Thanked 29 Times in 23 Posts
2014 C63 Edition 507
Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
Ordered!!!!!!!! I hope it works and that shine in the link is just like mine!!!


+1 on the Dr Beasley's. I've been using for over two years now and have been very satisfied. Hopefully there is a solution to that shine
pbaylog is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Got a shiny streak on my matte Edition 1- how to fix??


Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: