CCB brake pad warning light..14,000 mi.
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CCB brake pad warning light..14,000 mi.
So my brake pad warning light came on yesterday as I was just about to go into the canyons for my usual Sunday morning drive.
I turned around since I have no idea how much pad is remaining before rotor contact..
I never brake hard up or down hill but the ESP cooks the brakes even going uphill.
14,000 mi. seems way too soon for someone that doesn't brake hard even on the down hill..
Yup these E63s are true lead sleds with ESP and 4,700 lbs.
I turned around since I have no idea how much pad is remaining before rotor contact..
I never brake hard up or down hill but the ESP cooks the brakes even going uphill.
14,000 mi. seems way too soon for someone that doesn't brake hard even on the down hill..
Yup these E63s are true lead sleds with ESP and 4,700 lbs.
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I'll do that when I get it into the shop. I'll take pad measurements also..
I have no idea how much pad is left once the warning comes on, I'm curious too..
I'm glad it came on before I started my little road trip up north..
I have no idea how much pad is left once the warning comes on, I'm curious too..
I'm glad it came on before I started my little road trip up north..
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They are heavy. Hopefully you’re just looking at pads for CCB. Just did my rear pads and rotors on the wife's GLE 63s at 15,000 miles. Pads and rotors were around $1,500 with labor but CCB are a lot more for rotors. Let us know.
edit: I was told my pads were at 4 mm before the metal, and the rotors were warped. No track or even canyon carving even. It’s just the family SUV that hauls baby and dogs. It is 5,200 lbs though with 577 hp rear biased so like ronin said ESP doesn’t want you to die and cooks the rear brakes.
edit: I was told my pads were at 4 mm before the metal, and the rotors were warped. No track or even canyon carving even. It’s just the family SUV that hauls baby and dogs. It is 5,200 lbs though with 577 hp rear biased so like ronin said ESP doesn’t want you to die and cooks the rear brakes.
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They are heavy. Hopefully you’re just looking at pads for CCB. Just did my rear pads and rotors on the wife's GLE 63s at 15,000 miles. Pads and rotors were around $1,500 with labor but CCB are a lot more for rotors. Let us know.
edit: I was told my pads were at 4 mm before the metal, and the rotors were warped. No track or even canyon carving even. It’s just the family SUV that hauls baby and dogs. It is 5,200 lbs though with 577 hp rear biased so like ronin said ESP doesn’t want you to die and cooks the rear brakes.
edit: I was told my pads were at 4 mm before the metal, and the rotors were warped. No track or even canyon carving even. It’s just the family SUV that hauls baby and dogs. It is 5,200 lbs though with 577 hp rear biased so like ronin said ESP doesn’t want you to die and cooks the rear brakes.
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How can they tell or define what normal use is? Is a track day once normal use? Once a year? Can they tell if you’ve tracked it?
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I had about 27,000 miles on my wagon w CCB and the pads were only worn to about 65-75%, that included a track day. For CCB, best practice is to replace the pads at around 50% wear as they are the best protection against rotor wear (oxidation for CCB). Maybe the factory wear indicator is set to trigger much earlier than with iron brakes? 14k is otherwise very early for CCB.
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Originally Posted by Carac
If a CCB rotor wears out before the warranty expires I'm pretty sure they'll be covered as a warranty replacement. The official word is that CCB rotors should last at least 100k miles under normal use.
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I would call a vital braking component wearing out 14% into it's expected operational life to be a defect.
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What's with you people jumping on a thread and taking it off the rails every time I post ?
Please start your own hypothetical what if crap elsewhere..or stay on topic..
Please start your own hypothetical what if crap elsewhere..or stay on topic..
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If you don't want people on a PUBLIC forum to jump into your thread and talking about related things (pads wear is a related thing) - talk to your wife only in private room and no one will disturb you. Stop to be... genius.
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Sorry, should have said 15%, was referring to the post where someone had to replace their GLE's rotors at 15k miles, it was a hypothetical. Anyway, back to OP.
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Well it turns out it was just the rears that were in need of replacement, fronts are like 1/4 worn.
Yup it is the ESP eating the brakes. Heavy braking in a normal car would eat the front brakes not the rears.
Yup it is the ESP eating the brakes. Heavy braking in a normal car would eat the front brakes not the rears.
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I'd certainly say they are wear items in normal use, but if they are consumed super early I'd almost class it as a warranty issue or a design flaw.
I don't recall reading any warning or disclaimer about excessive brake wear from activation of ESP during normal sport driving.
I don't recall reading any warning or disclaimer about excessive brake wear from activation of ESP during normal sport driving.
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I'd certainly say they are wear items in normal use, but if they are consumed super early I'd almost class it as a warranty issue or a design flaw.
I don't recall reading any warning or disclaimer about excessive brake wear from activation of ESP during normal sport driving.
I don't recall reading any warning or disclaimer about excessive brake wear from activation of ESP during normal sport driving.
The ESP uses the brakes to control stability, that's a fact and if you drive around corners it is working sometimes more than others depending what driving mode you are in.
Pads wear before rotors and the rotors show zero wear on them..But I have never had to replace my rear pads long before replacing the front pads on any car I've ever owned.
It's as if you were driving with the parking brake on..
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They are heavy. Hopefully you’re just looking at pads for CCB. Just did my rear pads and rotors on the wife's GLE 63s at 15,000 miles. Pads and rotors were around $1,500 with labor but CCB are a lot more for rotors. Let us know.
edit: I was told my pads were at 4 mm before the metal, and the rotors were warped. No track or even canyon carving even. It’s just the family SUV that hauls baby and dogs. It is 5,200 lbs though with 577 hp rear biased so like ronin said ESP doesn’t want you to die and cooks the rear brakes.
edit: I was told my pads were at 4 mm before the metal, and the rotors were warped. No track or even canyon carving even. It’s just the family SUV that hauls baby and dogs. It is 5,200 lbs though with 577 hp rear biased so like ronin said ESP doesn’t want you to die and cooks the rear brakes.
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Is the problem lessened if you drive in Sport+ or Race Mode? I would assume so. My Individual setting is set with comfort suspension (or Sport suspension activated by pushing the suspension button once) Sport+ for the tranny and ESP off. I am assuming ESP off will result in less wear on the CCB pads. I like the feel of the car with the ESP off--as I understand it the nannies are not completely disabled and the car is much easier to rotate in turns with the throttle. If I don't know the roads than I just use Sport+ as it is set by the factory so that the nannies are there to help if need be.
