E53 AMG/CLS53 AMG oil temperature / oil consumption
06-03-2020, 03:04 PM
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E53 AMG/CLS53 AMG oil temperature / oil consumption
Really curious your experience with this engine. Lots about 63, none about 53.
I have 6500km oil changed after 1000km so 5500km (3400miles) - zero oil consumption 5W30 Motul Specific 229.52, but 110*C (230*F) oil temp (90*C water (194*F)) during 12*C (54*F) on comfort mode regular driving in town or 110-115*C (230-239*F) on comfort highway speed (180-200km/h (112-125mph)) 15*C (59*F) is for me way too much (didn't even try sport and manual mode revving 6000rpms)... I changed the oil to 5W40 some time ago worried about temps, couldn't find more powerful in BEVO Mercedes specification to this engine than Ravenol 5W40 Racing Ultra Performance 229.51 and temperature dropped by 3-5*C. Gearbox so far 85-90*C
To summarize :
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevol...cid=7062#close
This engine has got 229.51/52/61/71 specification ... 71 is 0W20 which I heard was used only to meet fuel efficiency tests and better not use this oil in this engine what they told me in Mercedes dealership... You can find most oils in 5W30 specs, but 5W40, 0W30, 0W20 are also available across those 4 norms.
Looking for your experience.
I have 6500km oil changed after 1000km so 5500km (3400miles) - zero oil consumption 5W30 Motul Specific 229.52, but 110*C (230*F) oil temp (90*C water (194*F)) during 12*C (54*F) on comfort mode regular driving in town or 110-115*C (230-239*F) on comfort highway speed (180-200km/h (112-125mph)) 15*C (59*F) is for me way too much (didn't even try sport and manual mode revving 6000rpms)... I changed the oil to 5W40 some time ago worried about temps, couldn't find more powerful in BEVO Mercedes specification to this engine than Ravenol 5W40 Racing Ultra Performance 229.51 and temperature dropped by 3-5*C. Gearbox so far 85-90*C
To summarize :
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevol...cid=7062#close
This engine has got 229.51/52/61/71 specification ... 71 is 0W20 which I heard was used only to meet fuel efficiency tests and better not use this oil in this engine what they told me in Mercedes dealership... You can find most oils in 5W30 specs, but 5W40, 0W30, 0W20 are also available across those 4 norms.
Looking for your experience.
06-05-2020, 07:10 AM
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C300>GLA45>E43>CLS53
Id also be interested to know. I’m in Canada and the most idea oil would be the Mobil 1 ESP X3 0W-40 but unfortunately I cannot find it anywhere.
After searching some forums I noticed that dealership would still be putting in 229.52 5W-30 which in Canada seems like an not optimal oil due to the extreme temperature changes. 5W is ok with the cold of course but I don’t understand why even Mercedes is using the 5W-30 in an high performance engine. Like you said my older Mercedes all run Mobil 1 0W-40 and those are readily available everywhere.
After searching some forums I noticed that dealership would still be putting in 229.52 5W-30 which in Canada seems like an not optimal oil due to the extreme temperature changes. 5W is ok with the cold of course but I don’t understand why even Mercedes is using the 5W-30 in an high performance engine. Like you said my older Mercedes all run Mobil 1 0W-40 and those are readily available everywhere.
06-06-2020, 05:52 AM
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Id also be interested to know. I’m in Canada and the most idea oil would be the Mobil 1 ESP X3 0W-40 but unfortunately I cannot find it anywhere.
After searching some forums I noticed that dealership would still be putting in 229.52 5W-30 which in Canada seems like an not optimal oil due to the extreme temperature changes. 5W is ok with the cold of course but I don’t understand why even Mercedes is using the 5W-30 in an high performance engine. Like you said my older Mercedes all run Mobil 1 0W-40 and those are readily available everywhere.
After searching some forums I noticed that dealership would still be putting in 229.52 5W-30 which in Canada seems like an not optimal oil due to the extreme temperature changes. 5W is ok with the cold of course but I don’t understand why even Mercedes is using the 5W-30 in an high performance engine. Like you said my older Mercedes all run Mobil 1 0W-40 and those are readily available everywhere.
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04-29-2021, 07:02 AM
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Refreshing this topic, anybody with 53 AMG engine can share some experience with oil, temperature, measurement, consumption?
I got 18 000km (11200mi), last oil change was 6000km (3750mi) ago. I always replace oil max till 10000km (6200mi). Running on Ravenol RUP 5W40 with 229.51 MB norm. What I can say is the fact that this electric engine oil gauge works upside down. Once you'll run a bit on an uphill or leave a car on even 1-10* uphill for a while you can expect to see 1/3rd oil so 2/3 oil consumed, downhill adds oil. You can drive the car 2-5 days until this electric gauge decides to recheck the oil, unless you add some (I have no idea how they did it but it detects even small amounts of oil added even 1 added drop it can detect) oil and force a recheck.
Really can't say if the car takes oil or not. Today I have 50% of oil (first time check after 6000km when car was showing full with exact 8.5L added), tomorrow I might have 90% just because. For the first time I added 100ml of oil to force oil gauge to recheck the level of oil on purpose.
I also saw that car wants to get to stabilize around 110*C (230*F) of oil temperature when temps are > 10*C (50*F), 100-105*C (212-221*F) is below 10*C (50*F), around 100*C (212*F) when temperatures are below 0*C (32*F). Gearbox is around 80*C (176*F) when fully "heated". Max temperature I saw was 115*C (238*F) and that was when I was using pads and SPORT+.
I had 1 ignition coil failure of 1st cylinder (good I was close to MB dealership so on 5 cylinders quickly got there), 1 rear shock absorber was replaced and rear right exhaust pipes were replaced because this black painting started to peel off.
I got 18 000km (11200mi), last oil change was 6000km (3750mi) ago. I always replace oil max till 10000km (6200mi). Running on Ravenol RUP 5W40 with 229.51 MB norm. What I can say is the fact that this electric engine oil gauge works upside down. Once you'll run a bit on an uphill or leave a car on even 1-10* uphill for a while you can expect to see 1/3rd oil so 2/3 oil consumed, downhill adds oil. You can drive the car 2-5 days until this electric gauge decides to recheck the oil, unless you add some (I have no idea how they did it but it detects even small amounts of oil added even 1 added drop it can detect) oil and force a recheck.
Really can't say if the car takes oil or not. Today I have 50% of oil (first time check after 6000km when car was showing full with exact 8.5L added), tomorrow I might have 90% just because. For the first time I added 100ml of oil to force oil gauge to recheck the level of oil on purpose.
I also saw that car wants to get to stabilize around 110*C (230*F) of oil temperature when temps are > 10*C (50*F), 100-105*C (212-221*F) is below 10*C (50*F), around 100*C (212*F) when temperatures are below 0*C (32*F). Gearbox is around 80*C (176*F) when fully "heated". Max temperature I saw was 115*C (238*F) and that was when I was using pads and SPORT+.
I had 1 ignition coil failure of 1st cylinder (good I was close to MB dealership so on 5 cylinders quickly got there), 1 rear shock absorber was replaced and rear right exhaust pipes were replaced because this black painting started to peel off.
Last edited by F1le; 04-29-2021 at 07:18 AM.
04-29-2021, 10:54 AM
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I would have had the car towed. At least on our old AMG a failed ignition coil allows unburnt fuel to pass through to the catalytic converter causing it to overheat and fail.
04-29-2021, 11:57 AM
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Normally I would have done it like this, but had 5-10min "free drive" to Mercedes Service from the moment ignition coil failed.
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Refreshing this topic, anybody with 53 AMG engine can share some experience with oil, temperature, measurement, consumption?
I got 18 000km (11200mi), last oil change was 6000km (3750mi) ago. I always replace oil max till 10000km (6200mi). Running on Ravenol RUP 5W40 with 229.51 MB norm. What I can say is the fact that this electric engine oil gauge works upside down. Once you'll run a bit on an uphill or leave a car on even 1-10* uphill for a while you can expect to see 1/3rd oil so 2/3 oil consumed, downhill adds oil. You can drive the car 2-5 days until this electric gauge decides to recheck the oil, unless you add some (I have no idea how they did it but it detects even small amounts of oil added even 1 added drop it can detect) oil and force a recheck.
Really can't say if the car takes oil or not. Today I have 50% of oil (first time check after 6000km when car was showing full with exact 8.5L added), tomorrow I might have 90% just because. For the first time I added 100ml of oil to force oil gauge to recheck the level of oil on purpose.
I also saw that car wants to get to stabilize around 110*C (230*F) of oil temperature when temps are > 10*C (50*F), 100-105*C (212-221*F) is below 10*C (50*F), around 100*C (212*F) when temperatures are below 0*C (32*F). Gearbox is around 80*C (176*F) when fully "heated". Max temperature I saw was 115*C (238*F) and that was when I was using pads and SPORT+.
I had 1 ignition coil failure of 1st cylinder (good I was close to MB dealership so on 5 cylinders quickly got there), 1 rear shock absorber was replaced and rear right exhaust pipes were replaced because this black painting started to peel off.
I got 18 000km (11200mi), last oil change was 6000km (3750mi) ago. I always replace oil max till 10000km (6200mi). Running on Ravenol RUP 5W40 with 229.51 MB norm. What I can say is the fact that this electric engine oil gauge works upside down. Once you'll run a bit on an uphill or leave a car on even 1-10* uphill for a while you can expect to see 1/3rd oil so 2/3 oil consumed, downhill adds oil. You can drive the car 2-5 days until this electric gauge decides to recheck the oil, unless you add some (I have no idea how they did it but it detects even small amounts of oil added even 1 added drop it can detect) oil and force a recheck.
Really can't say if the car takes oil or not. Today I have 50% of oil (first time check after 6000km when car was showing full with exact 8.5L added), tomorrow I might have 90% just because. For the first time I added 100ml of oil to force oil gauge to recheck the level of oil on purpose.
I also saw that car wants to get to stabilize around 110*C (230*F) of oil temperature when temps are > 10*C (50*F), 100-105*C (212-221*F) is below 10*C (50*F), around 100*C (212*F) when temperatures are below 0*C (32*F). Gearbox is around 80*C (176*F) when fully "heated". Max temperature I saw was 115*C (238*F) and that was when I was using pads and SPORT+.
I had 1 ignition coil failure of 1st cylinder (good I was close to MB dealership so on 5 cylinders quickly got there), 1 rear shock absorber was replaced and rear right exhaust pipes were replaced because this black painting started to peel off.
