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Old Dec 25, 2022 | 09:54 PM
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Old Dec 25, 2022 | 10:46 PM
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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 06:12 PM
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No I haven't measured but seat positioning is a huge negative. As you know I've had two 2021 wagons and both suffered with same exact problem. I was hoping it was a defect on my first one. I just can't position the seat low enough in the position I desire. Frustrating. I like to be cradled a bit with support under my thighs (seat base tipped back) with a very straight back. In the 213 E63 the seat won't go low enough (and I'm only 5 11) and my head is literally an inch away from the headliner.
Are we talking about buckets here? I'm 6'4 and have plenty of room in my 213 with the seat all the way down. With the standard seats.
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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 06:46 AM
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Are we talking about buckets here? I'm 6'4 and have plenty of room in my 213 with the seat all the way down. With the standard seats.
You must have your seat reclined and/or have short torso/long legs proportions? I’m 6-1 and my head is very close to the headliner, but I have a long torso and prefer an upright seating position (bent elbows) that I suspect others here utilize as well.

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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ericxog
Are we talking about buckets here? I'm 6'4 and have plenty of room in my 213 with the seat all the way down. With the standard seats.
I have the comfort seats. Somehow they're poorly designed for driver position or I just just got unlucky with two bad batches or improper installation.
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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 06:52 PM
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I have the comfort seats. Somehow they're poorly designed for driver position or I just just got unlucky with two bad batches or improper installation.
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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 07:32 PM
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^^^Referring to my experience with the seats in my wagons, Harris Could never get them adjusted properly without feeling like my head was almost up against the glass roof. Hopefully, 2023 is the charm.
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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 07:43 PM
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^^^Referring to my experience with the seats in my wagons, Harris Could never get them adjusted properly without feeling like my head was almost up against the glass roof. Hopefully, 2023 is the charm.
Not against the glass, unless you have long legs. Headroom with seats adjusted as I described is around 4 inches to the headliner, much more room to the glass. The seating position in my 2018 and 2021 felt basically the same.

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Very unlikely the 2023 will be any different.
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We've witnessed this to some extent with the refresh. Will Mercedes ruin the next iteration E63? Probably not. But it'll likely be further diluted, yet another step away from its great heritage.

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Old Dec 30, 2022 | 03:20 PM
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We've witnessed this to some extent with the refresh. Will Mercedes ruin the next iteration E63? Probably not. But it'll likely be further diluted, yet another step away from its great heritage.

https://youtu.be/QTH-RGhUX24
What? The current cars are the best looking ones in years. The next E looks great.
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Diluted with a hybrid V8 engine and electric motor, heavy battery, and too much complexity between them all. Plus fake spaceship and engine noises to hide it. And capacitive controls for everything that's not otherwise on the touchscreen.

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Old Dec 30, 2022 | 03:52 PM
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If I were in charge of BMW, Porsche and Mercedes, I'd insist on at least one model be kept analog forever.
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If I were in charge of BMW, Porsche and Mercedes, I'd insist on at least one model be kept analog forever.
The reality is that the use of electronic controls increases the reliability of the vehicle with the reduction/elimination of copper wires and the use of fiber optics. Engine sizes will also come down due to EPA requirements. Look at the current E63S: 603hp from 4.0 liters vs 577hp from 5.5 liters from the previous engine.You may not like the future direction and that's ok. Better keep your new land cruiser for a long time. I think that AMG has come up with a good compromise given the available tech.

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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 06:54 AM
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Too bad it’s not looking like the S213 is going to hit US soil for MY23 😞
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Numbers will certainly be low, there are only 8 or 9 S213 allocations for the US so far.
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Thanks for sharing@I.T. Guy ! Glad didn't get that RS6 Avant...Review did mention future M5 Wagon probably also exclusive to European market? Was thinking about ordering a manual 2023 1LE 2SS Camaro yesterday since a Zero Motorcycle is nearly pushing $30K. Might save my $$$ for future brake replacement instead for AMG wagon. Keep us posted about your build, production, and Canadian Delivery...
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That wagon in that video above is a 2021.
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That wagon in that video above is a 2021.
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European model with performance seats not available in the US. I don't understand the 2021 vs 2023 though. The years are basically the same minus a couple of missing selections for 2023
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Performance seats are sexy but not sure I'd want them over the comfort seats for wagon as a daily-driver, Harris. Nevertheless, would've spec'd them, if available, and taken the risk. I sat in them once long ago but forget how they felt.
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Performance seats are sexy but not sure I'd want them over the comfort seats for wagon as a daily-driver, Harris. Nevertheless, would've spec'd them, if available, and taken the risk. I sat in them once long ago but forget how they felt.
I absolutely love mine but if your back is anywhere near compromised you're going to hate them.

Also, per your earlier comment about the dilution of the next gen E63: it's not going to be diluted, it's going extinct. The highest model in the E range is going to be the E53 with the same garbage drivetrain as the new C63 E Performance. No more V8, these are the last ones. You should have hung on to yours.
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