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Old Nov 10, 2022 | 09:08 PM
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We are probably all duped into ordering this "last" AMG Wagon, and then find out the next AMG Wagon will have the 4.0L AND an electric boost…
I was talking to the ‘AMG Specialist’ at a big So Cal dealer that volunteered this will indeed be happening. I’ll believe it when I see it…
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Old Nov 10, 2022 | 09:13 PM
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I’m shocked to see Vancouver has so many allocations for a wagon.

From previous comments the tax on over 100k is insane.

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Old Nov 10, 2022 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
I was talking to the ‘AMG Specialist’ at a big So Cal dealer that volunteered this will indeed be happening. I’ll believe it when I see it…
So that wagon will weigh over 5000 lbs if true with the 3.9kw battery and the two electric motors..Should have really interesting handling characteristics. Not a great powetrain combo for anything other than a straight line.
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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
I was talking to the ‘AMG Specialist’ at a big So Cal dealer that volunteered this will indeed be happening. I’ll believe it when I see it…
Absolutely everything else has trickled down from the flagships so if it didn’t It be shocked.
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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 06:22 AM
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Very happy to see this thread! I’ve got an allocation for a 2023 final edition WAGON not sedan!

Supposedly one of 12 final editions and no set number on how many are sedans and how many are wagons. Pricing is 170,000 Canadian. Hard to do competitive on these as it seems people will pay what they are listed for. I’m shocked to see Vancouver has so many allocations for a wagon.

From previous comments the tax on over 100k is insane. But in Alberta the lack of PST helps.
My build guessing at prices was $189K plus taxes $243,000. My dealer says we have to re-spec it later this is apparently just to hold the spot. That’s fully loaded with CCB, no custom paint or design.

$243k has me thinking on forged long block bigger turbos built tranny for my 212 with $180k leftover for a proper toy car or 10 vacations.

I’ll wait it out and see what happens.
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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HBerman
So that wagon will weigh over 5000 lbs if true with the 3.9kw battery and the two electric motors..Should have really interesting handling characteristics. Not a great powetrain combo for anything other than a straight line.
If they build it North America will buy it...
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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 12:53 PM
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So that wagon will weigh over 5000 lbs if true with the 3.9kw battery and the two electric motors..Should have really interesting handling characteristics. Not a great powetrain combo for anything other than a straight line.
The recipe will no doubt include RWS, which easily neutralizes weight increase when it comes to handling dynamics. The RS6 is already over 5,000 lbs, and the E73e (or whatever they call it) will always have a lower COG than ‘performance’ SUVs…so I’m sure handling will still be great for the intended audience.
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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
My build guessing at prices was $189K plus taxes $243,000. My dealer says we have to re-spec it later this is apparently just to hold the spot. That’s fully loaded with CCB, no custom paint or design.

$243k has me thinking on forged long block bigger turbos built tranny for my 212 with $180k leftover for a proper toy car or 10 vacations.

I’ll wait it out and see what happens.
Is yours a “standard” wagon?

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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
I was talking to the ‘AMG Specialist’ at a big So Cal dealer that volunteered this will indeed be happening. I’ll believe it when I see it…
Same sort of gathering from a different 'AMG Specialist' was relaying information on no V8, with the W214 actually capping at the E53. All we can do is speculate at this point.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post8603543

Speculation speculation. No spy photos of any E63 yet but confirmed for the E53 as a plug in Hybrid.

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/07/th...lug-in-hybrid/

We'll have to wait and see, would be hard to believe we are getting another 4.0 with a "Final Edition" send-off.
Now if we get some E63 spy shots that first thread is void. And we are all just shooting in the dark at that point lol.

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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 06:33 PM
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They could go the same route as the gt63 e-performance. It is a heffer

In fact it’s got the modular layout already and it’ll be easy to transplant into other models.
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Old Nov 11, 2022 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ericxog
Same sort of gathering from a different 'AMG Specialist' was relaying information on no V8, with the W214 actually capping at the E53. All we can do is speculate at this point.

Speculation speculation. No spy photos of any E63 yet but confirmed for the E53 as a plug in Hybrid.

We'll have to wait and see, would be hard to believe we are getting another 4.0 with a "Final Edition" send-off.
Now if we get some E63 spy shots that first thread is void. And we are all just shooting in the dark at that point lol.
I find it very hard to believe that going forward the E-class will stop at the ‘53’ models when we know for certain the C63 is coming.

The ‘Final Edition’ is for the E63. That’s why I was speculating the successor would be called the E73e or something else.
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Old Nov 12, 2022 | 08:17 PM
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I heard there is only one E-63 Wagon left in the US, out of the 999 Final cars.
This one?





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Old Nov 12, 2022 | 09:13 PM
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Configuration is up for final edition in the UK to get an idea of what’s included.

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Old Nov 12, 2022 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
The recipe will no doubt include RWS, which easily neutralizes weight increase when it comes to handling dynamics. The RS6 is already over 5,000 lbs, and the E73e (or whatever they call it) will always have a lower COG than ‘performance’ SUVs…so I’m sure handling will still be great for the intended audience.
I respectfully disagree. RWS hasn’t neutralized the weight increase for the RS6. It ‘only’ weighs 400lbs or so more than the E63s, but is slower and duller in every conceivable performance metric, whether that’s in a straight line or around the track, braking tests etc. And if the other upcoming E-performance models are any indication, the E63 (or whatever it will be called) will be well above the 5000lbs the RS6 weighs. So yes, it will sell and it’ll be quick, but it’ll be heavy and at what point is something too heavy? Might as well get an SUV so at least you get some ground clearance, towing and higher seating position. The E63s as it current is probably 200-300lbs porkier than it should be, in my opinion. This car would be even more dynamite if it weighed 4200lbs and had RWS.
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by NorseWagon
I heard there is only one E-63 Wagon left in the US, out of the 999 Final cars.
This one?


That’s not a ‘Final Edition’ car. None of the 2023s have been built yet, ‘Final Edition’ or otherwise.

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That’s not a ‘Final Edition’ car. None of the 2023s have been built yet, ‘Final Edition’ or otherwise.
Hmm, sometimes Google is not your friend
I have been clicking my through the MB USA website, not much if any information there.
I contacted an MB dealer, they never returned my call.
Guess I am looking for a unicorn.
Is there such a thing as an AMG Wagon called the T-model..?
If the above picture is not a Final Edition, can it be a prototype, or a rendering?
Final Question: Does MB USA have an AMG Specialist at the headquarters where a
prospective buyer could call for intel on the vehicle of choice..?
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 04:59 PM
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T modell is their way of calling wagon “ touring and transport”
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 05:01 PM
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T modell is their way of calling wagon “ touring and transport”
Aha, learn something every day, even MB has a Model-T
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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:23 AM
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Hmm, sometimes Google is not your friend
I have been clicking my through the MB USA website, not much if any information there.
I contacted an MB dealer, they never returned my call.
Guess I am looking for a unicorn.
Is there such a thing as an AMG Wagon called the T-model..?
If the above picture is not a Final Edition, can it be a prototype, or a rendering?
Final Question: Does MB USA have an AMG Specialist at the headquarters where a
prospective buyer could call for intel on the vehicle of choice..?
@NorseWagon Make sure you get your 2023 AMG E63s Wagon from a Dealership that has an Allocation. In 2020 Athens dealer down the street from our Georgia Residence wanted $10K just to place an order. Was in Duluth, 45-miles away looking at a S55 Coupe for ex roommate in DC a few weeks later and happened to stumble upon MB of ATL NE Dealership. Salesman instantly told me Athens did not have the Allocation and all he needed was $2K to order a 2020 AMG Wagon. Mailed him a certified check for that amount. Long story short the Pandemic hit, my order got pushed to 2021, and 15-months later drove my S213 1500-miles to New Mexico Residence to join my Ducati and 2015 Chevy SS in oversized Garage. Unlike @Alan Smithee , my garage is filled with Mountain Bikes, Outdoor Gear, Tools, Tires and Wheels for even our 3 Asian cars on the East Coast. Hoping wife relocates to DMV to finish out her Career at USDA HQ so we can consolidate. Only option that I should have got were the CCB. Steel Brake OE complete replacement cost about $6K with Labor for 2021 AMG Wagon...

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Make sure you get your 2023 AMG E63s Wagon from a Dealership that has an Allocation.
Yup, working on it.
Waiting to hear back, but not holding my breath.
Nice car in the above picture, shiny paint and all.
Seems like many late model E63s comes with the Mango finish instead.
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I have a 1/17/23 build and cannot wait to get my wagon back. Building my own 'Final Edition' with custom paint.
Overpriced? Absolutely.
Countless flaws? Most certainly.
Best wagon ever? No doubt.
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
I have a 1/17/23 build and cannot wait to get my wagon back. Building my own 'Final Edition' with custom paint.
Overpriced? Absolutely.
Countless flaws? Most certainly.
Best wagon ever? No doubt.
Care to share the details?

Also curious as to when your build was/will be frozen...found a dealer with an available January build, but claims the spec cannot be changed.
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I’d like to know about these details as well.

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^^^I tried to change my interior trim several weeks ago (from carbon fiber to natural black ash) and was denied as build was locked. Don't know why they are locking so prematurely. Highly unusual. My original order was submitted to MB on 9/8/22.
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This concerns me a little since my options sales submitted are not exactly what I wanted. Salesguy says "don't worry we will have to spec the car for real soon but not yet, this is just to hold the spot". I have not yet gone into the dealership to sit down and run a configurator or anything with them so I guess I just wait.
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