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Old Jun 11, 2024 | 08:31 AM
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yes, that car in Laval has the sunshades
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Old Jun 11, 2024 | 01:25 PM
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Thanks guys, correct on both accounts. I've sent that VIN to price out the panels and sun rollers

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Old Jun 11, 2024 | 03:01 PM
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Thanks guys, correct on both accounts. I've sent that VIN to price out the panels and sun rollers

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... or buy that one and sell your current one ?
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Old Jun 11, 2024 | 06:30 PM
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I've been looking at the couple Canadian wagons mentioned that have the CCBs. They are missing options like premium package and intelligent drive. Usually those are must haves. These have been sitting a while though and dealers may be motivated. Wondering how much I'd miss those options if I can get a really great deal 🤔
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Old Jun 11, 2024 | 06:32 PM
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Also if the vin above doesn't work for the headliner I can give you two 2021 vins that definitely had it.
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Old Jun 13, 2024 | 11:33 PM
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I've been looking at the couple Canadian wagons mentioned that have the CCBs. They are missing options like premium package and intelligent drive. Usually those are must haves. These have been sitting a while though and dealers may be motivated. Wondering how much I'd miss those options if I can get a really great deal 🤔
For what it’s worth, and after trying to order a car in June of 21… options are everything. I opted for color/trim that wasn’t my preference, but the lots of little bits make the car for me. My $.02
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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 03:21 PM
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this Canadian dealer still can't give them away ... lol. ... even with $20K discount. Better raise that discount to $40K as it will be 2 yrs old in just a few more months time.

https://www.mercedes-benz-oakville.ca/inventory/new-2023-mercedes-benz-e-class-e63-awd-wagon-w1kzh8kbxpb127470/


This one only offers $10K discount now

https://www.mercedes-benz-performanc...h8kbxpb127873/



https://www.aristocratmercedes-benz.com/inventory/new-2023-mercedes-benz-e-class-amg%C2%AE-e-63-s-4matic-wagon-4matic%C2%AE-wagon-w1kzh8kb3pb144417/

compared to this US dealer prices ... makes those 2 Canadian wagons such a bargains ... once converted to US $ ... those Cdn wagons would be around $116K US

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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 08:13 PM
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Oakville doesn't seem to know how to market the cars. The Key Features mentioned are only:AWD, BLUETOOTH, FOG LIGHTS, INTERIOR ACCENTS, PARKING SENSORS / ASSIST, SIDE-IMPACT AIR BAGS.

If that doesn't make you want to shell out $150K (CAD? USD?), I don't know what would.
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Does it mean the bottom is falling out of the market?
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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 09:19 PM
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It definitely means that older models... certainly W213 post-facelift, are worth less (since you can buy a brand new 2023 for less). However, 2023 prices are still elevated compared to 2021. (I don't think there were any 2022 models). Not sure if the Oakville website was Canada or US dollars. Website might see where I am and translate.
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It definitely means that older models... certainly W213 post-facelift, are worth less (since you can buy a brand new 2023 for less). However, 2023 prices are still elevated compared to 2021. (I don't think there were any 2022 models). Not sure if the Oakville website was Canada or US dollars. Website might see where I am and translate.

oakville is canada and listing is in Canadian $. Thus, it is less than $120,000 converted to US $ … before any taxes.

the hype of a wagon holding a significant premium should be all over now and back to the typical AMG depreciation curve.

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the hype of a wagon holding a significant premium should be all over now and back to the typical AMG depreciation curve.
Wagons always held more money and demand even before all this crap started
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 06:41 AM
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The Oakville car shows Carbon Ceramic Brakes in the picture but no mention of them in the description. Wonder if these are just stock phoptos? The prices of the two cars would be around the same price if the cheaper one is missing that option. Looks like no massage seats either
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Wagons always held more money and demand even before all this crap started
compared to its brother, sedan, it used to have around $10,000 - $15,000 Cdn in premiums in resale asking price in Canada ... it now has probably around <$5,000 in similar conditions / specs. nowadays. When I traded my wagon last fall, it has maybe around $3-4,000 Cdn premium over the sedan.
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https://www.aristocratmercedes-benz....h8kb3pb144417/

here was that Kansas link one for the 23 E63S wagon asking nearly $180K US.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 07:28 AM
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https://www.mercedes-benz-oakville.c...h8kbxpb127470/

the same car lined yesterday has now been discounted with an additional $3400 Cdn this morning ... listing for $150,000 Cdn or $110,000 US. That's cheap
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@bobblehead I had to confirm Canadian dollars as it seems rare/surprising that dealer price has decayed this much (from ~177k I believe with Final Edition markup). That $150k is indeed Canadian dollars, which is indeed USD111,000. Wow. Of course, it's in Canada so the hassle/cost of importing to the U.S. must be considered. I guess this is why grey market cars came to be.

we are exited that you are interested in one of our vehicles.
Yes, our pricing is in Canadian dollars.
Would you like to schedule a phone call to discuss this further or would you like to come in person?
Woud you be interested to lease or finance this vehicle?
Please let me know.
I am looking forward to assisting you further.

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@bobblehead I had to confirm Canadian dollars as it seems rare/surprising that dealer price has decayed this much (from ~177k I believe with Final Edition markup). That $150k is indeed Canadian dollars, which is indeed USD111,000. Wow. Of course, it's in Canada so the hassle/cost of importing to the U.S. must be considered. I guess this is why grey market cars came to be.

we are exited that you are interested in one of our vehicles.
Yes, our pricing is in Canadian dollars.
Would you like to schedule a phone call to discuss this further or would you like to come in person?
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I am looking forward to assisting you further.

Thank you. All the best.
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part of the total discount offering, $10,000 discount is directly from MB Canada and the rest is from dealer who just want to get rid of it quickly .. it seems.

If this car is driven with mileage and selling as "used", then the full factory warranty is honorable in the US. But as a new when sold, MB Canada will not honor it in the US. Strange policy.
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https://www.mercedes-benz-oakville.c...h8kbxpb127470/

the same car linked yesterday has now been discounted with an additional $3400 Cdn this morning ... listing for $150,000 Cdn or $110,000 US. That's cheap
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compared to its brother, sedan, it used to have around $10,000 - $15,000 Cdn in premiums in resale asking price in Canada ... it now has probably around <$5,000 in similar conditions / specs. nowadays. When I traded my wagon last fall, it has maybe around $3-4,000 Cdn premium over the sedan.
it will come down to supply and demand thing and wagons being low production, they always go back up, always is and has been more desirable.
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The Oakville car shows Carbon Ceramic Brakes in the picture but no mention of them in the description. Wonder if these are just stock phoptos? The prices of the two cars would be around the same price if the cheaper one is missing that option. Looks like no massage seats either
It also listed DINAMICA but IRL this car does not have it, I had the dealer physically go check the car.

Only way to be sure of options is get the VIN and sheet from dealer. Even then punch it into a VIN checker. Never trust descriptions and pictures.
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