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Old 12-26-2023, 02:33 PM
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The main benefit of an EVM is that it is easily reversible and can be controlled via a remote. In stock form, valves open up at high RPMs but immediately close up quite a bit when it shifts as the RPM drops so keeping them open all the time allows that low RPM growl out which adds to the driving experience.

For those who drive in winter, is it fine if the exhaust valves are always open in the snow with all that salt/slush and brine getting inside the exhaust?
I live in Boston so I guess I’ll find out, although it’s been unseasonably warm so far. But theoretically, wouldn’t this be a concern for any car that had a similar performance exhaust? Whatever the case, I love the way it sounds and I can always close the valves if the weather gets too crazy.
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Originally Posted by ska597
I live in Boston so I guess I’ll find out, although it’s been unseasonably warm so far. But theoretically, wouldn’t this be a concern for any car that had a similar performance exhaust? Whatever the case, I love the way it sounds and I can always close the valves if the weather gets too crazy.
I assume for those cars, the partial closing of the valves at all times would had helped (compared to this mod forcing the valves fully open all the time). Perhaps, there isn't too much of an impact short term but maybe it adds up in the long term and... if so... how much damage and what sorts of damage? Anyone else can chime in with knowledge on this topic? Curious.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
I assume for those cars, the partial closing of the valves at all times would had helped (compared to this mod forcing the valves fully open all the time). Perhaps, there isn't too much of an impact short term but maybe it adds up in the long term and... if so... how much damage and what sorts of damage? Anyone else can chime in with knowledge on this topic? Curious.
as my favorite company loves to say,

it depends and it really does.
It depends on the strategy used by the valve.

Is there a feedback system based on position? If so there is no "damage" as the valve is put at certain positions based on position not amperage/current.
Is it based on amperage/current? as an example the parking brake system does this on Parking enable. It engages until it hits a certain amperage (usually 20amps) which translates directly to torque applied on the pads. This system if not tuned correctly WILL fry the motor if left on too long or not have enough holding power if not left on long enough. In both cases, this strategy does not apply to the valve for the exhaust unless there is a spring for tension.
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Originally Posted by figuwx
as my favorite company loves to say,

it depends and it really does.
It depends on the strategy used by the valve.

Is there a feedback system based on position? If so there is no "damage" as the valve is put at certain positions based on position not amperage/current.
Is it based on amperage/current? as an example the parking brake system does this on Parking enable. It engages until it hits a certain amperage (usually 20amps) which translates directly to torque applied on the pads. This system if not tuned correctly WILL fry the motor if left on too long or not have enough holding power if not left on long enough. In both cases, this strategy does not apply to the valve for the exhaust unless there is a spring for tension.
Good points, my concern was salt causing damage to the inside of the exhaust long term.
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So I still drive with my knee too much, and it slips on the carbon wheel.

I found this thread about covers:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...heel-wrap.html

Which linked to this site:
https://www.eastdetailing.com/

Where I just ordered this:


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Will that fit over the AMG steering wheel on the 21+? Interested in your experience with this..waiting to see how it turns out before getting one myself. Mine has the full leather from factory..kind of liked the look of half suede and leather.
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So I still drive with my knee too much, and it slips on the carbon wheel.

I found this thread about covers:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...heel-wrap.html

Which linked to this site:
https://www.eastdetailing.com/

Where I just ordered this:

this is fascinating but I'm so skeptical ... $49? In for the end result and how it holds up - is it glued on?
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this is fascinating but I'm so skeptical ... $49? In for the end result and how it holds up - is it glued on?
In that other thread it seems to just wrap around, and you use thread to tie it together and cinch it tight. I'll have my daughter do it, she is fantastic with crochet, knitting, sewing, all that stuff. In that other thread it takes a few hours, I would be livid after 30 seconds
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Been eyeing these for awhile! Are you getting a spare wheel for the swap? Please share your findings! And pricing goes up pretty quickly for the Alcantara versions
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
To me yes. It is deeper and throatier not just louder in the lower RPM range. Not raspy and loud like the kids like to do it. Remember by the time the car hits 4,000 RPM it's exactly like stock anyhow since that's when the flaps would open. So if you input more then part throttle you blow by 4,000 in a nanosecond and it's what you are used to hearing stock. The flap mod is for C and S in tool-around mode. It doesn't really do anything for when you are on it unless you forgot to push the Perf Exh button when you started the car in the first place.

A good analogy is it's like a big block boat lumping and idling out of the marina. Is it LOUD? No. Does it make the hair stand up on my arms? Yes. That's what flaps open does for me idling and part throttle. It's just audibly growly now all the time. If you have a thing for THAT V8 noise, and it gets you in the heart, you will love open flaps. Stock I could barely hear the car when inside. Now I hear it all the time and love it.
@I.T. Guy do you know if this works for a 2018 63S wagon without the performance exhaust? Emailed renntech and ASR, but got no reply. Thanks!
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They just cancelled my order with no explanation.
I have sent them an email.
Bugger.
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Hi Jason,

Our steering wheel covers are compatible with the standard leather steering wheels.
Your steering wheel has carbon and suede. Their thickness is different.


We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and appreciate your understanding.
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At least they have really good service and communication. Maybe one day they will make a cover that will work for me. I appreciate them not sending something that wouldn't fit!
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Hi Jason,

Our steering wheel covers are compatible with the standard leather steering wheels.
Your steering wheel has carbon and suede. Their thickness is different.


We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and appreciate your understanding.
Noooo! There must be someone who makes one for the wheels like we have. I'm not a knee-driver but i understand your plight.
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At least they have really good service and communication. Maybe one day they will make a cover that will work for me. I appreciate them not sending something that wouldn't fit!
Why don't you just replace the wheel with one that is either leather or Dynamica? Probably about $2k installed.
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Why don't you just replace the wheel with one that is either leather or Dynamica? Probably about $2k installed.
or trade yours - I'm sure someone wants it over their leather one
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I'm not too beat up about it yet. For 50 bucks I was going to try it. I love the feel of my wife's full leather wheel and am a little jealous, not enough to spend $2k or trade.

As for their answer, I'm still a little confused as the wheels LOOK the same size to me... and shape. Oh well.
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Plus in my head I think of programming that will need to be done, or swapping all electronics, and how I will mess it up and snap or scratch or lose something, or regret it. The cover was too easy to try. I'm not brave enough for a wheel swap.
Which is weird, I'll wrench under the hood or under the car all day long without concern. But as soon as it's interior trim, headliner, steering wheels, I know I'll mess it up.
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I made money at the dealer!
Ok not really.

I went in for my service A
It was comped
Then parts gave me the money back for the spare tire that Germany is never going to send

and

Im getting all new front brake pads! About 3,000 km ago braking from 40km-50km and down there was a scraping sound like a rock or salt or sand wedged in somewhere. They looked, the pads are weird. They said it’s safe just makes noise, they’ve ordered all new pads.

Free ride there and back in an EQ
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I took a bottle of their water.
WINNING
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The brake pads finally came in from Germany. Braking scraping noise is completely gone. Yay!

Dealer is PPF'ing the mirrors. The OEM carbon covers got stolen while at the dealer for the transmission repair, and since they were PPF'd the dealer always said they were going to do it to the replacements but I dropped the ball getting back to them. That's finally scheduled, and I am adding the A pillars, black B pillar trims, and rear 1/4 panels where the summer wheels spray the body with extra junk from the spacers.

Rear tire screw from post 280 https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post8866320 is not getting fixed. They said they could patch it and I asked "will you guarantee it 200kph+?" and they replied "we'll order you a new tire."


Getting ready for summer!!!

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They said they could patch it and I asked "will you guarantee it 200kph+?" and they replied "we'll order you a new tire."
priceless. You remain the most chill "dealer whisperer" on this board. Well done.
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Sticking with the same brand tire?

Had that happen to me Thanksgiving night and had the dealership replace it with another PZero. All the tires only had about 12k miles and after my AMG Driving Academy course I decided to go with Continental XtremeContact......when the time comes.
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Sticking with the same brand tire?

Had that happen to me Thanksgiving night and had the dealership replace it with another PZero. All the tires only had about 12k miles and after my AMG Driving Academy course I decided to go with Continental XtremeContact......when the time comes.
It came with PS4’s so yes.
Although I kinda wanted two 305 instead of 295 which would mean requiring 285s on the front so… I hit the STOP button and just one replacement.

You will like the Continentals, had them before, also a great tire. PZero not so much
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I want to go 305 too….

i like the beefy look and some more sidewall

whats motivating you?

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Can the stock AMG forged wheels support 305s out back? Has anyone done that with stock wheels?


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