ska597

I think this post deserved its own thread.

A few sites are now reporting that because of the lacklustre sales of both the four pot C63 and GLC 63, MB is bringing back the V8 for definitely the CLE 63 AMG and from here we can probably extrapolate that the E63s will get another V8. The question will be whether it gets V8 and the hybrid system as found in the E-Performance line or ‘just’ the V8 as is the case with this CLE 63.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mercedes-amg-cle-63-switches-four-pot-phev-585bhp-v8

ocdbroker

Excellent news.

HBerman

This will never happen for the US market IMO..

KB5

This is more that excellent news, it is outstanding news. If the V-8 comes to the US I will be on waiting list for sure.

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

MercedesAMG's own instagram replied "yep that's the rumor" to someone asking them directly. Sales are king, I haven't seen a single new C63 in the wild and I live in an AMG mecca.

willypos

That's great news! I'm waiting for the V8

OldManAndHisCar

As was said - "Money is king". The majority of the performance Coal powered cars are folks third and fourth cars (next to their Suburban). Fact is, my neighbor (who owns a freaking tire shop) who has a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (392), massive Dodge (dualie) pickup truck...probably two dozen "work trucks"....for his "fun car" he is already over his Tesla (Plaid), looking to dump it and get a GT3.

This might change in a few generations. That said, I am in FL and with our hurricanes and the fact that a Tesla can not "Store" extra power in a big tank in our yards...yeah, no good.
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ska597

Some of the articles have quoted Markus Shafer that same exact point that sales will determine it. If that is true, which it has to be, we’ll be seeing it again.

Crito

https://www.tesla.com/powerwall

But personally I'd rather just use the vehicle itself as backup power for my house like with a Ford EV: https://chargers.ford.com/ford-charge-station-pro

OldManAndHisCar

A friend installed the Tesla power thing at his (lake) home...it has not been figured out, some three years later. The same guy, you know - "saving the earth" did just sell his spare helicopter because who needs two helicopters? (two helicopters is just wasteful, right...).

I was at his hanger the other day and he was on his knees at my front wheel saying "Those are the STOCK brakes?"....(oh, his hanger is at his airport house, on his private airport with his private runway that only he uses.....) These are the current EV customers.... :-)

streborx

My G550 4L V8 and my X7 4.4L V8 are the cars I intend to keep forever.

YYC53

I find the moves by so many automakers hilarious...asking premium buyers to abandon what THEY want for what automakers WANT to build hasn't worked so well. Probably the most delerious is Stellantis...eliminating V8's from the most V8 hungry and proud brand there is will have certain consequences. Replacing a hellcat with an EV... Oh boy. I can already see the hedge fund buying it from Stellantis as a dead brand...

streborx

What I find hilarious are the TV commercials promoting environmentally conscious hybrid SUVs shown tearing up the wilderness areas.

OldManAndHisCar

Dont confuse what Auto makers want with what Governments want (with no facts or reality to backup their wants).

ska597

this article suggests it could be 2027 before we see the V8, but it’s coming. Apparently Mercedes is offering 18 per cent discounts on the four banger C63s.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...-engine-plans/

graphitegreyamg

Big fan of the return, eventhough I ended up with an FE myself, the V8 needs to stay. The decline of Tesla should be a big sign about the government regulations.m not being enough.

YYC53

The V8 formula I'd love to see is normally aspirated, high compression, cylinder deactivation. Energy recovery to a high capacity capacitor. Don't get flashy with how much the capacitor can add power, just make it big enough to run accessories. Perhaps running accessories that are electric as per M256 as long as it doesn't add weight.

Basically give it the soul of a V8 but add efficiency with virtually no extra weight. I don't care if it's only 550 HP, give it the pure character that a master engine builder can offer. Nine speed transmissions can easily put that formula into optimum efficiency or power.

If you need to make crazy power please quit with the weezy turbos and properly supercharge.

I.T. Guy

Giddyup!
This is great news.
Now everyone needs to actually step up and by the V8's like crazy when they come out again. Make them a blockbuster.

ocdbroker

Went to local dealer to check out new body style E450 wagon. Nice but definitely NOT worth $90k. Approaching AMG pricing. Sad how they're all SUV-like now in the US.

OldManAndHisCar

You must have looked at that "off road" one that is a bit more like a Subaru.

HBerman

The front interior looks almost identical to my AMG EQEX4 including the dash and the side panels. Ugly with the rubber wheel opening moldings. I'm glad that I decided to exit the MB wagon for 2024.

PeterUbers

jellybeans haven't been working for Benz

HBerman

Agree that the sedan versions look like jellybeans, but the SUVs have a different profile. The new 2024 E450 looks odd IMO, but MB is probably not looking to sell many of those. The EQEX4 does not have a tall profile (only 5.5" higher than my previous E63S wagon). Great rear seat legroom, but I do miss the multi-contour seats.

YYC53

This is a jelly-bean. The Merc is almost exotic relative to them...although its never a good look/comparison.

PeterUbers

beauty is in the eye of the buyer/beholder, and sales and resale values are what they are

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-sedan-flopped