Mercedes Bluetooth (AWS) Phone Compatibility List
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Samsung and Treo Smart Phones
I have a Samsung SCH-i760 smart phone with windows mobile 6. It pairs with my 2008 ML w/BT in that I can send and recieve calls; however, no phone book download.
My friend was in the car today with a Treo 750 and it also paired, and it downloaded his recent call list, but not his phone book.
I just bought my wife the LG enV2 and will try to pair it tomorrow.
Does anyone know about a fix that will allow a phonebook download from a PDA/Smart Phone like my samsung or my friend's Treo?
My friend was in the car today with a Treo 750 and it also paired, and it downloaded his recent call list, but not his phone book.
I just bought my wife the LG enV2 and will try to pair it tomorrow.
Does anyone know about a fix that will allow a phonebook download from a PDA/Smart Phone like my samsung or my friend's Treo?
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Welcome to the forum, FinemanM.
In short, there isn't a "fix" - at least, for the car's system. Post #355 above (I know, #355 in a string isn't exactly going to jump out at you) deals with the situation a bit, but more importantly, it gives links to a fuller discussion.
The fundamental problem with all 3 phones is that none of them have compatible firmware. Cellular service providers write their own firmware for their own purposes, not for a particular car (except for certain Mercedes-branded plug-in phones, which are very expensive). Most car cellular systems will function fine with many of the available phones in simply placing and receiving calls, and muting the audio system - but additional features, such as phone book downloads and the like, often won't function. This is not unique to Mercedes.
AWS, the Mercedes partner in the U.S., lists compatible phones and firmware versions at http://www.wireless4mb.com/MB.pdf. These are often called "approved" phones - which simply means they have undergone a 90-day testing period by AWS, and implement all of the functions they are supposed to, without causing conflicts with the car's systems. You do not have to buy these phones from AWS - but if you get them elsewhere, be sure your service provider will/can load the necessary firmware. Even if it is newer firmware, it may or may not work.
The "fix" is to use a phone that is compatible with the car's system. There is virtually nothing you can do to make the car's system compatible with an incompatible phone.
In short, there isn't a "fix" - at least, for the car's system. Post #355 above (I know, #355 in a string isn't exactly going to jump out at you) deals with the situation a bit, but more importantly, it gives links to a fuller discussion.
The fundamental problem with all 3 phones is that none of them have compatible firmware. Cellular service providers write their own firmware for their own purposes, not for a particular car (except for certain Mercedes-branded plug-in phones, which are very expensive). Most car cellular systems will function fine with many of the available phones in simply placing and receiving calls, and muting the audio system - but additional features, such as phone book downloads and the like, often won't function. This is not unique to Mercedes.
AWS, the Mercedes partner in the U.S., lists compatible phones and firmware versions at http://www.wireless4mb.com/MB.pdf. These are often called "approved" phones - which simply means they have undergone a 90-day testing period by AWS, and implement all of the functions they are supposed to, without causing conflicts with the car's systems. You do not have to buy these phones from AWS - but if you get them elsewhere, be sure your service provider will/can load the necessary firmware. Even if it is newer firmware, it may or may not work.
The "fix" is to use a phone that is compatible with the car's system. There is virtually nothing you can do to make the car's system compatible with an incompatible phone.
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Thanks Skylaw,
I just paired my wife's new LG enV2 with the ML and it works great, Phone book and all.
The thing I don't get is that I paired my samsung with my father's BMW X3 and it downloaded the entire phone book. I just don't get why the MB wont do it.
I just paired my wife's new LG enV2 with the ML and it works great, Phone book and all.
The thing I don't get is that I paired my samsung with my father's BMW X3 and it downloaded the entire phone book. I just don't get why the MB wont do it.
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Treo 750 and WinMo feedback
I have a Samsung SCH-i760 smart phone with windows mobile 6. It pairs with my 2008 ML w/BT in that I can send and recieve calls; however, no phone book download.
My friend was in the car today with a Treo 750 and it also paired, and it downloaded his recent call list, but not his phone book.
Does anyone know about a fix that will allow a phonebook download from a PDA/Smart Phone like my samsung or my friend's Treo?
My friend was in the car today with a Treo 750 and it also paired, and it downloaded his recent call list, but not his phone book.
Does anyone know about a fix that will allow a phonebook download from a PDA/Smart Phone like my samsung or my friend's Treo?
Regarding any other WinMo handheld, a couple of friends found success with Jetware Mobile - This also helps Windows Mobile devices connect to MB's properly: http://www.jetwaremobile.com - it's not cheap, but it works.
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Verizon Palm Treo 755p ROM Update works!
Last weekend I installed Palm's ROM update (was 1.06, now is 1.08), gave it a week to make sure the update worked well.
I own a 2007 GL450. Before the update, I had limited functionality: full control over the device, but only shortcuts in the Phone Applications shortcuts would show up in the Address Book. And, the Palm would hard reset periodically without warning if changes were made to the shortcuts - frickin' annoying!
Yesterday, I repaired my Palm and BT units and was about to turn the vehicle off and noticed that the COMAND display had already updated - far faster than ever before. I selected the Address Book and all of my contacts numbers (phone and mobile - no fax) showed up as:
First name, Last name /h
First name, Last name /m
and all of the Address Book contacts showed up as well. I deleted all of the shortcuts, and just the Contacts numbers showed up. No freezes, no crashes, clearer calls; Palm indicated that they made "improvements" to BT connectivity in their list of fixes with the ROM update. I'm impressed with the update.
I own a 2007 GL450. Before the update, I had limited functionality: full control over the device, but only shortcuts in the Phone Applications shortcuts would show up in the Address Book. And, the Palm would hard reset periodically without warning if changes were made to the shortcuts - frickin' annoying!
Yesterday, I repaired my Palm and BT units and was about to turn the vehicle off and noticed that the COMAND display had already updated - far faster than ever before. I selected the Address Book and all of my contacts numbers (phone and mobile - no fax) showed up as:
First name, Last name /h
First name, Last name /m
and all of the Address Book contacts showed up as well. I deleted all of the shortcuts, and just the Contacts numbers showed up. No freezes, no crashes, clearer calls; Palm indicated that they made "improvements" to BT connectivity in their list of fixes with the ROM update. I'm impressed with the update.
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Wow, I'm glad to see people are still using this thread. I just wanted to update and let everyone know that the iPhone 3G works perfectly. Everything works as expected except SMS (of course).
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In GL forum someone posted the LG Dare VX-9700 works with the MB bluetooth. Can other people confirm this? Because I am about to purchase this phone from Verizonwireless to replace my Motorola E815. Thanks.
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Please find information on compatibility of the MOTO Verizon W755 with the V60 bluetooth adapter in this thread.
Some information there may allow other phones, that apparently do not download or keep phonebooks synched, to do so. It is a weird process but it works for the mentioned phone and I suspect for several others.![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Some information there may allow other phones, that apparently do not download or keep phonebooks synched, to do so. It is a weird process but it works for the mentioned phone and I suspect for several others.
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Update for my LG Dare phone. It integrates flawlessly with the GL450 but no phonebook download with my 2006 E55. I believed this is due to the older bluetooth module(first generation) I installed in the E55. The GL450 has a newer version of bluetooth.
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JohnAMG, Does it work with the '02 E55? Thanks.
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I just paired the LG Dare with my 2002 E55(V60 bluetooth puck) and everything works including the phonebook download. I am very happy with my LG Dare and finally I am not stuck with Motorola phones anymore.
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wanted to share that just installed the Bluetooth Puk with Tail and works nicely with my blackberry curve 8320 running system software 4.5.0.52 (beta) with Bluetooth 1.1 Not sure the firmware it's running.
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can I ask a really stupid question: what is a "puck"?
Just got a 2009 C300, and although call-waiting doesn't work, I've got it running fine with my 2g iphone, having manually entered my frequently-used contacts thru the MM.
So... will a puck make call-waiting work? And phonebook book download? (Neither work with the C-class + iphone, apparently.) I can probably live without both, but I just want to understand this "puck" business.
Just got a 2009 C300, and although call-waiting doesn't work, I've got it running fine with my 2g iphone, having manually entered my frequently-used contacts thru the MM.
So... will a puck make call-waiting work? And phonebook book download? (Neither work with the C-class + iphone, apparently.) I can probably live without both, but I just want to understand this "puck" business.
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[QUOTE=boymom;3018150]can I ask a really stupid question: what is a "puck"?[/puck]
The puck is the bluetooth converter for those with the North American V60 system. It sits in the V60 cradle, car thinks it has a V60 and it bluetooths to your newer phone.
If your W204 C class has the phone wiring (i.e connector in the centre glovebox) you can add a MHI cradle to extend the phone functionality. In your case you would then add the MHI bluetooth cradle - however there is an issue with the iPhone phonebook download in V2 software (i.e iPhone 3G and old iPhone with V2 s/w) which we're eagily anticipating Apple to fix. Affects Mercedes and BMW. (the issue affects the European UHI and thus I assume the North American MHI) - at least in Europe we have an alternate product that we can use instead of the Mercedes cradle that does work with iPhone nicely.
Below is my braindump about different cradle types - please remember I write this from a European viewpoint
Hope that helps
Richard
All are devices mentioned below are Mercedes products except the ViseeOs
Where i say US, I mean US and Canada (sorry)
The exchangeable cradle system in North America is called MHI, in the rest of the world its called UHI. I dont think we really know all the differences but the connector for the cradles is physically the same. The control units have different part numbers, and the cradles available also have different part numbers
Europe:
a) SAP cradle - 'borrows' the ID of the SIM from the phone and its a 'phone' in itself compatable with GSM900 and GSM1800 mhz systems - which means it wont work in USA or on 3G networks in Europe. The cradle looks like the US MHI cradle - i.e nice and shiny silver cradle. Basically, only Nokia phones and a couple of Siemens phones support SAP. This uses the car's antenna (as its a phone) and can take a SIM card if you get stuck with a flat battery. There have been 2 versions of these, the earlier didnt remember the PIN number and could only pair with 1 phone and wasnt good at downloading phonebook.
b) HFP cradle - headset profile cradle, similar to US Bluetooth MHI cradle, but looks very different, its small and black. (picture here: http://www.comandonline.co.uk/images...8f759af19a.jpg )
c) A number of phone specific cradles, including some that use bluetooth but are tied just to a single phone manafacturer - like the iPhone
d) The Viseeo MBU-2000 - like the mercedes HFP cradle, but more flexible and supports more address book transfer functions (object push) so contacts can be sent from phones that dont auto-download phonebook properly (like the Nokia E and N series) - pictures etc here : - Comand Online Ltd :: Phone Cradles & Adapters :: ViseeO MBU2000 UHI Bluetooth for Mercedes Benz
e) The ViseeO MBU-1000 - somewhat like the US 'Puck' plugs into the old fixed mobile phone system (which was Nokia 6xxx series in Europe) - car thinks it has a Nokia, and it bluetooths to the phone
North America
f) MHI Bluetooth cradle. There seem to have been 2 versions of these. Current version available from places in Europe like Comand Online Ltd :: Phone Cradles & Adapters :: Mercedes MHI Bluetooth Module (North America Vehicles) at a load less than buying from a US dealer (equiv to about $410 instead of around $490).
g) Again. a number of phone specific cradles
h) V60 puck - plugs into V60 fixed cradle system installed in Mercedes before the MHI system and provides bluetooth
I have tried US MHI blueooth cradle on European UHI systems, and they work fine. I havent tried EU cradles on US systems as they are not FCC approved and US legislation seems a bit stronger that here.
I dont think the ViseeO MBU-2000 has been tried in US MHI systems
The puck is the bluetooth converter for those with the North American V60 system. It sits in the V60 cradle, car thinks it has a V60 and it bluetooths to your newer phone.
If your W204 C class has the phone wiring (i.e connector in the centre glovebox) you can add a MHI cradle to extend the phone functionality. In your case you would then add the MHI bluetooth cradle - however there is an issue with the iPhone phonebook download in V2 software (i.e iPhone 3G and old iPhone with V2 s/w) which we're eagily anticipating Apple to fix. Affects Mercedes and BMW. (the issue affects the European UHI and thus I assume the North American MHI) - at least in Europe we have an alternate product that we can use instead of the Mercedes cradle that does work with iPhone nicely.
Below is my braindump about different cradle types - please remember I write this from a European viewpoint
Hope that helps
Richard
All are devices mentioned below are Mercedes products except the ViseeOs
Where i say US, I mean US and Canada (sorry)
The exchangeable cradle system in North America is called MHI, in the rest of the world its called UHI. I dont think we really know all the differences but the connector for the cradles is physically the same. The control units have different part numbers, and the cradles available also have different part numbers
Europe:
a) SAP cradle - 'borrows' the ID of the SIM from the phone and its a 'phone' in itself compatable with GSM900 and GSM1800 mhz systems - which means it wont work in USA or on 3G networks in Europe. The cradle looks like the US MHI cradle - i.e nice and shiny silver cradle. Basically, only Nokia phones and a couple of Siemens phones support SAP. This uses the car's antenna (as its a phone) and can take a SIM card if you get stuck with a flat battery. There have been 2 versions of these, the earlier didnt remember the PIN number and could only pair with 1 phone and wasnt good at downloading phonebook.
b) HFP cradle - headset profile cradle, similar to US Bluetooth MHI cradle, but looks very different, its small and black. (picture here: http://www.comandonline.co.uk/images...8f759af19a.jpg )
c) A number of phone specific cradles, including some that use bluetooth but are tied just to a single phone manafacturer - like the iPhone
d) The Viseeo MBU-2000 - like the mercedes HFP cradle, but more flexible and supports more address book transfer functions (object push) so contacts can be sent from phones that dont auto-download phonebook properly (like the Nokia E and N series) - pictures etc here : - Comand Online Ltd :: Phone Cradles & Adapters :: ViseeO MBU2000 UHI Bluetooth for Mercedes Benz
e) The ViseeO MBU-1000 - somewhat like the US 'Puck' plugs into the old fixed mobile phone system (which was Nokia 6xxx series in Europe) - car thinks it has a Nokia, and it bluetooths to the phone
North America
f) MHI Bluetooth cradle. There seem to have been 2 versions of these. Current version available from places in Europe like Comand Online Ltd :: Phone Cradles & Adapters :: Mercedes MHI Bluetooth Module (North America Vehicles) at a load less than buying from a US dealer (equiv to about $410 instead of around $490).
g) Again. a number of phone specific cradles
h) V60 puck - plugs into V60 fixed cradle system installed in Mercedes before the MHI system and provides bluetooth
I have tried US MHI blueooth cradle on European UHI systems, and they work fine. I havent tried EU cradles on US systems as they are not FCC approved and US legislation seems a bit stronger that here.
I dont think the ViseeO MBU-2000 has been tried in US MHI systems
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can I ask a really stupid question: what is a "puck"?
Just got a 2009 C300, and although call-waiting doesn't work, I've got it running fine with my 2g iphone, having manually entered my frequently-used contacts thru the MM.
So... will a puck make call-waiting work? And phonebook book download? (Neither work with the C-class + iphone, apparently.) I can probably live without both, but I just want to understand this "puck" business.
Just got a 2009 C300, and although call-waiting doesn't work, I've got it running fine with my 2g iphone, having manually entered my frequently-used contacts thru the MM.
So... will a puck make call-waiting work? And phonebook book download? (Neither work with the C-class + iphone, apparently.) I can probably live without both, but I just want to understand this "puck" business.
Adding a puck to your '09 will not give you greater capability that you have - and I don't know where you would add it.
That said, you need to go back through your phone and Bluetooth settings. The iPhone should download its phone book; it certainly does with older systems. Your COMAND or audio system manual should tell you whether call waiting should work.
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^iphone contacts don't download to c-class cars (at least not '08 and '09). There are tons of threads about this. It's because these models' bluetooth protocols require vcards, and iphones don't use them (yet). Some people use old phones w/vcards to download; others use the PCMCIA slot.
Anyway, I'll make do, wait for the upcoming iphone cradle, or hope an iphone update uses v-cards.
Anyway, I'll make do, wait for the upcoming iphone cradle, or hope an iphone update uses v-cards.
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I've put this on other threads, but still don't have a clear answer. ANyone know if the LG Dare works with the puck in a 2008 E350?
Seems alot of people are having trouble with it and Wirelesss4mb says they don't recommend it.
Seems alot of people are having trouble with it and Wirelesss4mb says they don't recommend it.
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I don;t know if anyone has posted this yet, but the Blackberry 8120 works great!!
I am using the V60 Bluetooth adapter part number B67875856 on my 04 S430.
I have also used two different Motorola Pebl' s and the Razr as well they all work good but the 8120 really impresses me. The quality , and reception is wonderful..
I get caller ID as long as the caller is on my contact list. I haven't tried any of the multimedia yet, but I will.
I have noticed that the Blackberry 8120 loads the phone book faster as i have about 250 contacts automatically, and disconnects automatically from Bluetooth when I shut off my car. The US Pebl didn't do this. But I have a Eastern European Pebl with different software that does.
I am using the V60 Bluetooth adapter part number B67875856 on my 04 S430.
I have also used two different Motorola Pebl' s and the Razr as well they all work good but the 8120 really impresses me. The quality , and reception is wonderful..
I get caller ID as long as the caller is on my contact list. I haven't tried any of the multimedia yet, but I will.
I have noticed that the Blackberry 8120 loads the phone book faster as i have about 250 contacts automatically, and disconnects automatically from Bluetooth when I shut off my car. The US Pebl didn't do this. But I have a Eastern European Pebl with different software that does.
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