1. HOW-TO GUIDE FOR CELL PHONE UPGRADES, PLUG-IN AND BLUETOOTH
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Only way to know if you're missing parts is to check out the equipment in the trunk. Use the phone bulletin for the '05 to try to locate it. http://home.earthlink.net/~phdwebsit..._bulletins.htm
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Ok, pulled everything out of the trunk to compare to the bulletin -- while I have a 2006 and the bulletin is 2005, I'm pretty sure that I don't have any of the parts they reference in the bulletin.
The electronics bay is completely bare except for one tiny black box -- the antennae switch shown in fig 8 is not there.
Pulled the right side trunk panel to look for the linear compensator/UHI control module and I don't have that either -- in fact, the mounting bracket that was in the location had a piece of hard black styrofoam on it (similar to the foam covering the spare). When I took the foam off, the bracket didn't look at all like what was shown in figure 24.
Finally, there was no tele-aid control module (fig 28) either.
So, I guess the moral of the story is, having the MHI contact plate in the center console means absolutely nothing when it comes to having the necessary equipment in the back of the car -- at least, that's the case in the 2006 C-class.
Now, I'm off to ebay to list my newly purchased 5878 -- hopefully I don't take too much of a beating on the resale...
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The electronics bay is completely bare except for one tiny black box -- the antennae switch shown in fig 8 is not there.
Pulled the right side trunk panel to look for the linear compensator/UHI control module and I don't have that either -- in fact, the mounting bracket that was in the location had a piece of hard black styrofoam on it (similar to the foam covering the spare). When I took the foam off, the bracket didn't look at all like what was shown in figure 24.
Finally, there was no tele-aid control module (fig 28) either.
So, I guess the moral of the story is, having the MHI contact plate in the center console means absolutely nothing when it comes to having the necessary equipment in the back of the car -- at least, that's the case in the 2006 C-class.
Now, I'm off to ebay to list my newly purchased 5878 -- hopefully I don't take too much of a beating on the resale...
dave
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I have a 2004 E500 and want to be able to use my Blackberry Storm. It seems that I need the V60 cradle and cable. However only earlier Blackberry's are listed on the compatibility list. Any successful experiences with using a Storm?
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You may find the answer to this already posted. Please try the search tool, including the terms "Blackberry Storm" and "V60" in your search.
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Bluetooth 3G Phone Compatibility
To all:
I just received this response to my question about the 3G Blackberry Story from Auto Wireless Solutions info@autokonnect.com
The Storm is not compatible with the V60 phone system. You will not receive full functionality if any at all if you use the BB Storm with the V60 BT cradle adaptor.
I just received this response to my question about the 3G Blackberry Story from Auto Wireless Solutions info@autokonnect.com
The Storm is not compatible with the V60 phone system. You will not receive full functionality if any at all if you use the BB Storm with the V60 BT cradle adaptor.
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Indeed -thank you for the update. I'm sure that Storm owners will appreciate it.
And I did more than assume you'd find information in a search - using all or even part of the search terms I suggested, there were several posts indicating that the Storm worked with the pucks beginning with the 5857 and later models (for MHI systems) and several references to the AWS compatibility list and their website, by which you could have made the determination. I was also aware of the discussion on compatibility at permalink #6 in this string, and its link to the AWS site, though it does not (nor will it) attempt to discuss a wide variety of phones.
And I did more than assume you'd find information in a search - using all or even part of the search terms I suggested, there were several posts indicating that the Storm worked with the pucks beginning with the 5857 and later models (for MHI systems) and several references to the AWS compatibility list and their website, by which you could have made the determination. I was also aware of the discussion on compatibility at permalink #6 in this string, and its link to the AWS site, though it does not (nor will it) attempt to discuss a wide variety of phones.
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Indeed -thank you for the update.
And I did more than assume - using all or even part of the search terms I suggested, there were several posts indicating that the Storm worked with the pucks beginning with the 5857 and later models (for MHI systems) and several references to the AWS compatibility list and their website, by which you could have made the determination.
But you were the first to post that it would have NO functionality with the V60 puck, so thanks again for that information.
And I did more than assume - using all or even part of the search terms I suggested, there were several posts indicating that the Storm worked with the pucks beginning with the 5857 and later models (for MHI systems) and several references to the AWS compatibility list and their website, by which you could have made the determination.
But you were the first to post that it would have NO functionality with the V60 puck, so thanks again for that information.
Melanie wrote, "You will not receive full functionality if any at all." Not having full functionality suggest some level of functionality. She also questioned that there would be any functionality "at all." There may be other who will roll the dice and find out what level of functionality, if any, they have with a Storm. Since this BB is sweeping the market like a storm, there may be upgrades and/or alternative solutions in the future.
Thanks for sharing with us.
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That's because almost any Bluetooth phone that has been out for the last 3 years will at least be able to make and receive calls. It's the other features that are problematic.
I also question whether NO functionality would result with the V60 and the Storm - it seemed an overstatement - which I why I edited my comment - but your response captured the unedited post while I was making the edit.
I also question whether NO functionality would result with the V60 and the Storm - it seemed an overstatement - which I why I edited my comment - but your response captured the unedited post while I was making the edit.
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That's because almost any Bluetooth phone that has been out for the last 3 years will at least be able to make and receive calls. It's the other features that are problematic.
I also question whether NO functionality would result with the V60 and the Storm - it seemed an overstatement - which I why I edited my comment - but your response captured the unedited post.
I also question whether NO functionality would result with the V60 and the Storm - it seemed an overstatement - which I why I edited my comment - but your response captured the unedited post.
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I don't know about the phone book functionality with the Storm, but SMS is not supported on any U.S. specification MB Bluetooth system for any Bluetooth phone (meaning, your in-car system will not display the messages; your phone probably will). It is supported for plug-in phones only. So, it's a good (and wise) thing that you don't need SMS capability.
Any Storm (or Thunder, in Canada) users have any success with phone book downloads using the V60 puck?
Any Storm (or Thunder, in Canada) users have any success with phone book downloads using the V60 puck?
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Just to muddy the waters a bit.
Mercedes Benz of Monterey is selling a "Brand New Mercedes-Benz V60 Bluetooth Cradle Adaptor." I wrote to them, asking if the Blackberry Storm (aka 9530) is supported.
Their response was, "The 9530 storm with Verizon service is supported."
You pays your money and you takes your chances.
Mercedes Benz of Monterey is selling a "Brand New Mercedes-Benz V60 Bluetooth Cradle Adaptor." I wrote to them, asking if the Blackberry Storm (aka 9530) is supported.
Their response was, "The 9530 storm with Verizon service is supported."
You pays your money and you takes your chances.
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Mik-Box replacement with Puck BT V60
After waiting for many years, and more than few unanswered emails to Mik Box creator (very frustrating that I ever gave any business to this guy) I finally lived long enough to dump Mik Box into deepest part of my trash can.
With Skylaw's help and advice, I've purchased used V60 Puck on eBay for $140. That, and 1 penny holding my phone, was the total cost of this project.
For all members interested I posted few photos with caption.
Enjoy it...I did
http://picasaweb.google.com/lasicmla...kInstallation#
With Skylaw's help and advice, I've purchased used V60 Puck on eBay for $140. That, and 1 penny holding my phone, was the total cost of this project.
For all members interested I posted few photos with caption.
Enjoy it...I did
http://picasaweb.google.com/lasicmla...kInstallation#
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2002 w210 wagon bluetooth conversion
I've been reading through this thread and others, and am trying to figure out the bare minimum I need to do to install bluetooth functionality in my 2002 w210 wagon. This car never had a phone installed, and never had a CD changer installed (if that matters) and needs a new radio head unit (but that's another issue, sort of).
As far as I can tell, all I need (asside from the radio head unit) to get bluetooth working is the "V60 Cradle Eliminator Cable" PN Q682 0976, and the "Universal PSE" PN Q682 0971 (and of course the puck itself).
Is this correct? Am I missing anything? I don't care if the cable & puck are loose in the center console lower storage area, so I don't think I need a cradle or cradle kit. I want the simplest, cheapest way to get bluetooth phone capability integrated with the D2B system (i.e. to display call info on the head unit and on the dash, and to use the steering wheel buttons.)
What I'm not clear on is if there is some sort of part and/or modification I need in order to actually use (install) the cradle eliminator cable.
Thanks for any clarification.
Final question: dealer says the radio head unit I need is the Alpine CM1910 (audio30). Since I don't have a CD chagner and don't really want one, i was thinking of possibly getting an Audio10 unit instead. Is the bluetooth puck system compatible with the Audio10 head unit?
As far as I can tell, all I need (asside from the radio head unit) to get bluetooth working is the "V60 Cradle Eliminator Cable" PN Q682 0976, and the "Universal PSE" PN Q682 0971 (and of course the puck itself).
Is this correct? Am I missing anything? I don't care if the cable & puck are loose in the center console lower storage area, so I don't think I need a cradle or cradle kit. I want the simplest, cheapest way to get bluetooth phone capability integrated with the D2B system (i.e. to display call info on the head unit and on the dash, and to use the steering wheel buttons.)
What I'm not clear on is if there is some sort of part and/or modification I need in order to actually use (install) the cradle eliminator cable.
Thanks for any clarification.
Final question: dealer says the radio head unit I need is the Alpine CM1910 (audio30). Since I don't have a CD chagner and don't really want one, i was thinking of possibly getting an Audio10 unit instead. Is the bluetooth puck system compatible with the Audio10 head unit?
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Kieran28,
I think you have it pretty well figured out as to what you need. You will probably have to go to the dealer after your install to get the version coding redone since the car never had an integrated phone.
I recommend you call KEITH VALENTINE CELLULAR...cell:714-746-5930. He sells kits to upgrade obsolete MB phone systems and will probably have what you need. I bought the V60s kit from him. He is happy to talk with you and answer any questions that you have even before you commit to buy anything. And, if you buy from him, he provides great after sales service and advice for installation and troubleshooting.
As for the Audio 10, it doesn't have the telephone alpha numeric key pad so you may lose some functionality of being able to dial calls from the head unit even if it does work with your phone. Also, it does not have the tape deck like the Audio 30.
Fred
I think you have it pretty well figured out as to what you need. You will probably have to go to the dealer after your install to get the version coding redone since the car never had an integrated phone.
I recommend you call KEITH VALENTINE CELLULAR...cell:714-746-5930. He sells kits to upgrade obsolete MB phone systems and will probably have what you need. I bought the V60s kit from him. He is happy to talk with you and answer any questions that you have even before you commit to buy anything. And, if you buy from him, he provides great after sales service and advice for installation and troubleshooting.
As for the Audio 10, it doesn't have the telephone alpha numeric key pad so you may lose some functionality of being able to dial calls from the head unit even if it does work with your phone. Also, it does not have the tape deck like the Audio 30.
Fred
I've been reading through this thread and others, and am trying to figure out the bare minimum I need to do to install bluetooth functionality in my 2002 w210 wagon. This car never had a phone installed, and never had a CD changer installed (if that matters) and needs a new radio head unit (but that's another issue, sort of).
As far as I can tell, all I need (asside from the radio head unit) to get bluetooth working is the "V60 Cradle Eliminator Cable" PN Q682 0976, and the "Universal PSE" PN Q682 0971 (and of course the puck itself).
Is this correct? Am I missing anything? I don't care if the cable & puck are loose in the center console lower storage area, so I don't think I need a cradle or cradle kit. I want the simplest, cheapest way to get bluetooth phone capability integrated with the D2B system (i.e. to display call info on the head unit and on the dash, and to use the steering wheel buttons.)
What I'm not clear on is if there is some sort of part and/or modification I need in order to actually use (install) the cradle eliminator cable.
Thanks for any clarification.
Final question: dealer says the radio head unit I need is the Alpine CM1910 (audio30). Since I don't have a CD chagner and don't really want one, i was thinking of possibly getting an Audio10 unit instead. Is the bluetooth puck system compatible with the Audio10 head unit?
As far as I can tell, all I need (asside from the radio head unit) to get bluetooth working is the "V60 Cradle Eliminator Cable" PN Q682 0976, and the "Universal PSE" PN Q682 0971 (and of course the puck itself).
Is this correct? Am I missing anything? I don't care if the cable & puck are loose in the center console lower storage area, so I don't think I need a cradle or cradle kit. I want the simplest, cheapest way to get bluetooth phone capability integrated with the D2B system (i.e. to display call info on the head unit and on the dash, and to use the steering wheel buttons.)
What I'm not clear on is if there is some sort of part and/or modification I need in order to actually use (install) the cradle eliminator cable.
Thanks for any clarification.
Final question: dealer says the radio head unit I need is the Alpine CM1910 (audio30). Since I don't have a CD chagner and don't really want one, i was thinking of possibly getting an Audio10 unit instead. Is the bluetooth puck system compatible with the Audio10 head unit?
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Fred,
Thanks for the info and recommendation for Keith V.
Thanks for pointing out the lack of a keypad. That's something to consider for sure. I think I'll just try to find a decent audio30 head unit and go without CD's for a while, and put the extra $$ toward something like a gateway500 mp3 system.
Thanks for the info and recommendation for Keith V.
Thanks for pointing out the lack of a keypad. That's something to consider for sure. I think I'll just try to find a decent audio30 head unit and go without CD's for a while, and put the extra $$ toward something like a gateway500 mp3 system.
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Voice Control Module
How useful is the VCM for a bluetooth system? Is it absolutely necessary in order to be able to voice-dial some one in the phone book? If my phone has voice-dial capability, and it's connected via bluetooth, won't that still work? Is there anything else (other than voice-dialing) that's affected by not having the VCM installed?
Thanks...
Thanks...
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Some contributors have reported that their phones' built-in voice dialing capabilities do not work over Bluetooth, but I certainly cannot answer for all phones. The VCM memory is separate from the phone.
Voice control also controls the CD (and if you have one, the Tape) and radio functions; it also controls my iPod, which I have connected via a Dension Gateway 500 (it controls the functions corresponding to those on the CDC, not all iPod functions); and it controls certain functions on my nav unit. However, the nav unit control came in with the DVD-based systems; all I could do with a CD-based system was call up the nav screen.
You can download a VCM instruction booklet and read about the capabilities at http://home.earthlink.net/~phdwebsite/vcm.htm
Voice control also controls the CD (and if you have one, the Tape) and radio functions; it also controls my iPod, which I have connected via a Dension Gateway 500 (it controls the functions corresponding to those on the CDC, not all iPod functions); and it controls certain functions on my nav unit. However, the nav unit control came in with the DVD-based systems; all I could do with a CD-based system was call up the nav screen.
You can download a VCM instruction booklet and read about the capabilities at http://home.earthlink.net/~phdwebsite/vcm.htm
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SkyLaw: thanks for that info... and thanks of course for all the work you've done on this and similar topics.
Can anyone give a ballpark for a VCM price?
Can anyone provide the MBZ part number for a VCM? (for my w210 2003 e320 wagon).
Can anyone give a ballpark for a VCM price?
Can anyone provide the MBZ part number for a VCM? (for my w210 2003 e320 wagon).
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No worries, Fred! I will call him. In the mean time, just gathering as much info as possible. The car is gone for the weekend anyway (wife took it to visit family).
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part number update
I was at the dealer to pick up some radio removal keys, and had him quote some of the bluetooth parts for me. Thought I'd provide this info for the group:
"Universal PSE" Part # Q682 0971 - $167.00
"V60 Cradle Eliminator Cable" Part # Q682 0976 - $95.00
The following part number, which I got from this thread, was wrong, according to this dealership:
"V-60 bluetooth puck" Part # B 6 787 5878
That part is apparently for the cradle, not the puck.
The correct part number is
"V-60 bluetooth puck" Part # B 6 787 5856 - $265.00
A little off topic, but this might be useful to some also:
Turns out there are at LEAST three part numbers for radio removal keys:
"Radio removal keys" part # 929-589-01-05-00 ~$7.00 - out of stock
Also p/n 963-589-01-05-00 ~$5.00 - out of stock
Also p/n 000-589-88-63-00 ~$10.00 - in stock (of course)
The guy at the parts counter said as far as he knew these three part numbers were all for virtually identical keys.
And yes, Fred, I'm still going to call Keith V. when I have the car back and can schedule a visit. :-)
"Universal PSE" Part # Q682 0971 - $167.00
"V60 Cradle Eliminator Cable" Part # Q682 0976 - $95.00
The following part number, which I got from this thread, was wrong, according to this dealership:
"V-60 bluetooth puck" Part # B 6 787 5878
That part is apparently for the cradle, not the puck.
The correct part number is
"V-60 bluetooth puck" Part # B 6 787 5856 - $265.00
A little off topic, but this might be useful to some also:
Turns out there are at LEAST three part numbers for radio removal keys:
"Radio removal keys" part # 929-589-01-05-00 ~$7.00 - out of stock
Also p/n 963-589-01-05-00 ~$5.00 - out of stock
Also p/n 000-589-88-63-00 ~$10.00 - in stock (of course)
The guy at the parts counter said as far as he knew these three part numbers were all for virtually identical keys.
And yes, Fred, I'm still going to call Keith V. when I have the car back and can schedule a visit. :-)
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Those are pretty good prices from a dealer for those parts. My dealer quoted me over $200 for the PSE and I've seen the Cradle Eliminator Cable and Puck for more than that on ebay. According to Gregs210, Duvall Mercedes in Florida is the cheapest dealer for parts and even paying shipping charges you can often save quite a bit by buying from them. They recently quoted me $1000 plus shipping for a catalytic converter that my local dealer wanted $1400 plus tax for. 
You might want to check their prices before buying. BTW, I got a set of radio removal keys on ebay for $3 or $4.
Fred
You might want to check their prices before buying. BTW, I got a set of radio removal keys on ebay for $3 or $4. Fred
I was at the dealer to pick up some radio removal keys, and had him quote some of the bluetooth parts for me. Thought I'd provide this info for the group:
"Universal PSE" Part # Q682 0971 - $167.00
"V60 Cradle Eliminator Cable" Part # Q682 0976 - $95.00
The following part number, which I got from this thread, was wrong, according to this dealership:
"V-60 bluetooth puck" Part # B 6 787 5878
That part is apparently for the cradle, not the puck.
The correct part number is
"V-60 bluetooth puck" Part # B 6 787 5856 - $265.00
A little off topic, but this might be useful to some also:
Turns out there are at LEAST three part numbers for radio removal keys:
"Radio removal keys" part # 929-589-01-05-00 ~$7.00 - out of stock
Also p/n 963-589-01-05-00 ~$5.00 - out of stock
Also p/n 000-589-88-63-00 ~$10.00 - in stock (of course)
The guy at the parts counter said as far as he knew these three part numbers were all for virtually identical keys.
And yes, Fred, I'm still going to call Keith V. when I have the car back and can schedule a visit. :-)
"Universal PSE" Part # Q682 0971 - $167.00
"V60 Cradle Eliminator Cable" Part # Q682 0976 - $95.00
The following part number, which I got from this thread, was wrong, according to this dealership:
"V-60 bluetooth puck" Part # B 6 787 5878
That part is apparently for the cradle, not the puck.
The correct part number is
"V-60 bluetooth puck" Part # B 6 787 5856 - $265.00
A little off topic, but this might be useful to some also:
Turns out there are at LEAST three part numbers for radio removal keys:
"Radio removal keys" part # 929-589-01-05-00 ~$7.00 - out of stock
Also p/n 963-589-01-05-00 ~$5.00 - out of stock
Also p/n 000-589-88-63-00 ~$10.00 - in stock (of course)
The guy at the parts counter said as far as he knew these three part numbers were all for virtually identical keys.
And yes, Fred, I'm still going to call Keith V. when I have the car back and can schedule a visit. :-)
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I know the keys are available online cheaper (and also for more) but I figured $5 more for keys wasn't a big deal considering how much time the guy spent with me, and rummaging through his stock to find the keys.
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1996 SL500
please allow this M-B novice's question but..
Does my 08 S-550 that has blue tooth need the gizmo that plugs into the connector that is inside the armrest compartment for my LG/Verizon to work?
My phone synchs up but then seems to be dropped by the car when I try and use it.
The salesman was clueless..
Does my 08 S-550 that has blue tooth need the gizmo that plugs into the connector that is inside the armrest compartment for my LG/Verizon to work?
My phone synchs up but then seems to be dropped by the car when I try and use it.
The salesman was clueless..
