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Originally Posted by ctC230K
man forget buying a C55 its so overpriced!!! even a CPO 2002 C32 went for $39K i think?!
Originally Posted by ctC230K
yeah that along with the miles i am now putting on this car since i am driving it everywhere all the time. and the mods hopefully will not void the warranty on anything except for parts that i replace all together. 
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
Dyno costs $$$$$$$. PM me some $$ and we'll talk. Unless ICS wants to dyno it for free with the stock filter i'm not gonna bother.
Why am I not surprised. Don't bother dyno'ing the car with the rest of the mods either then.
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Originally Posted by Jim Banville
Your gonna spend all this money and time on this car, yet you refuse to even prove that your very first mod did anything? Simply amazing
Why am I not surprised. Don't bother dyno'ing the car with the rest of the mods either then.
Why am I not surprised. Don't bother dyno'ing the car with the rest of the mods either then.
risk + challenge =
i may end up getting all renntech upgrades if i can get some $. then we'll see who continues hating when i smoke a car costing twice as much.
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
DUDE do you have PayPal????? send me the dollars and i'll do it.
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Originally Posted by Jim Banville
Honestly, I think you are afraid to see the dyno results :p
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so....
back to my original post,
- baseline dyno
you can't claim HP gain, if you don't know where it was before.
- good luck !
lofty goals ! You can do it. I hope your rich ! But you won't reach C32/C55 numbers without voiding your warranty (ie: completely new engine components), or spending $$$. $9K is not enough, believe me ! I'm trying to get my V6 C320 up to C32 specs, and that alone is over $10K. But like you, I'm modding for fun, so have fun !
- check your math
like everyone has said, HP gains are not linear. HP = $$$$ And be very specific on how you're going to get each extra pony !!
I'm not hating ! You do the MODS you need to do ! Have fun !
It's just that you really need to research and take a reality check.
If you can't afford a $50 DYNO, where you gonna get the cash to get a C230K 4cyl up to C55 specs ??? I know, I know, in time, we will all see !
But by that time, the C55 will be as slow as hell !
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back to my original post,
- baseline dyno
you can't claim HP gain, if you don't know where it was before.- good luck !
lofty goals ! You can do it. I hope your rich ! But you won't reach C32/C55 numbers without voiding your warranty (ie: completely new engine components), or spending $$$. $9K is not enough, believe me ! I'm trying to get my V6 C320 up to C32 specs, and that alone is over $10K. But like you, I'm modding for fun, so have fun !- check your math
like everyone has said, HP gains are not linear. HP = $$$$ And be very specific on how you're going to get each extra pony !!I'm not hating ! You do the MODS you need to do ! Have fun !
It's just that you really need to research and take a reality check.
If you can't afford a $50 DYNO, where you gonna get the cash to get a C230K 4cyl up to C55 specs ??? I know, I know, in time, we will all see !
But by that time, the C55 will be as slow as hell !
Carlos
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
I'm trying to get my V6 C320 up to C32 specs, and that alone is over $10K. But like you, I'm modding for fun, so have fun !
Don't know if it is or not, but very curious, cuz my cousin has a 320 sedan and if at all possible, I can help him out on "increasing hp".
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Yes, very possible, There's plenty of room in the engine bay for S/C and inline coolers and all that other jazz... it's not just a straight plug & play. You also have to do some downline mods to tranny & crank & headers, because the stock C320 is not set up for all that extra HP & torque a S/C would add.
KLEEMANN, RennTech, CARLSSON, and (I believe) BRABUS, all have SuperChargers for the V6 C320 as well. Ranging from $13K to $30K depending on dealer.
Dropping in a C32 engine with associated drive-train & SAM computer would be ideal !!
but costly !! I spoke to Mark Cummins about this once before. I think there's more stuff I would need. He would know.
Let me know if you have any ideas / suggestions on V6 C320 performance upgrades.
So far, I've got:
- K&N air filters
- AMG exhaust
- RENNTech ECU programming
adding about 20 HP to my already 218 stock.
thinking of future mods to include:
- EVOsport UDPS
- EVOsport new headers
- AMG n/a C55 air intake (if possible)
Did we meet at the Rose Bowl get-together back in February ???
Thanks !
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KLEEMANN, RennTech, CARLSSON, and (I believe) BRABUS, all have SuperChargers for the V6 C320 as well. Ranging from $13K to $30K depending on dealer.
Dropping in a C32 engine with associated drive-train & SAM computer would be ideal !!
but costly !! I spoke to Mark Cummins about this once before. I think there's more stuff I would need. He would know.
Let me know if you have any ideas / suggestions on V6 C320 performance upgrades.
So far, I've got:
- K&N air filters
- AMG exhaust
- RENNTech ECU programming
adding about 20 HP to my already 218 stock.
thinking of future mods to include:
- EVOsport UDPS
- EVOsport new headers
- AMG n/a C55 air intake (if possible)
Did we meet at the Rose Bowl get-together back in February ???
Thanks !
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
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Originally Posted by MARK CUMMINS
Can I Get a Refill on the Popcorn....Oh and Top off the soda!
at least it will keep me busy until REVENGE OF THE SITH opens !
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
Yes, very possible, There's plenty of room in the engine bay for S/C and inline coolers and all that other jazz... it's not just a straight plug & play. You also have to do some downline mods to tranny & crank & headers, because the stock C320 is not set up for all that extra HP & torque a S/C would add.
KLEEMANN, RennTech, CARLSSON, and (I believe) BRABUS, all have SuperChargers for the V6 C320 as well. Ranging from $13K to $30K depending on dealer.
Dropping in a C32 engine with associated drive-train & SAM computer would be ideal !!
but costly !!
Let me know if you have any ideas / suggestions on V6 C320 performance upgrades.
Did we meet at the Rose Bowl get-together back in February ???
Thanks !
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
KLEEMANN, RennTech, CARLSSON, and (I believe) BRABUS, all have SuperChargers for the V6 C320 as well. Ranging from $13K to $30K depending on dealer.
Dropping in a C32 engine with associated drive-train & SAM computer would be ideal !!
but costly !!
Let me know if you have any ideas / suggestions on V6 C320 performance upgrades.
Did we meet at the Rose Bowl get-together back in February ???
Thanks !
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
As for the Rose Bowl meet...LOL...I was supposed to go. I think I told you, IKomprz, Citron and a couple others that I would be there, but I had to cancel out last minute. But, to answer your question, we haven't met in person yet...I'll do my best to make the next one!
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
this is pretty entertaining...
at least it will keep me busy until REVENGE OF THE SITH opens !
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at least it will keep me busy until REVENGE OF THE SITH opens !
Carlos
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Either way, I hope Lucas did a re-vamp on his approach from Episode 1 and 2 because that was ridiculous. I wonder if he'll kill off Jar-Jar...I hate that character
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Damn, I figured as much. No matter what version of the w203 or Benz in general, mods just get astronomically insane when it comes to the $$$. Has anybody done a forced induction (Turbo) setup for either the 240 or 320? I know there was that one kid that did a complete swap out from supercharger to turbo on the 230, but curious if anybody considered that? If there are any threads on that, let me know. I'd like to check out what others with the 240/320 have conceptualized when it comes to their NA motors.
I'm sure there are more peeps up in L.A. car clubs that could probably pull it off, with the right amount of $$$. Yeah, it seems like it's all about the $ with these Benzos. But damn, they're fun !!
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Hahaha...yup. I heard that it's actually very dark (like it should be) and is even rated PG-13!! Never thought any of the Star Wars would ever be given that rating.
Either way, I hope Lucas did a re-vamp on his approach from Episode 1 and 2 because that was ridiculous. I wonder if he'll kill off Jar-Jar...I hate that character
Either way, I hope Lucas did a re-vamp on his approach from Episode 1 and 2 because that was ridiculous. I wonder if he'll kill off Jar-Jar...I hate that character
and I would definitely consider it a re-vamp from I or II.
sorry to spoil it for you, but...
bad news is Jar-Jar is back.
good news is that he doesn't say ONE word !!
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
Yes, VERY dark !
and I would definitely consider it a re-vamp from I or II.
sorry to spoil it for you, but...
bad news is Jar-Jar is back.
good news is that he doesn't say ONE word !!
Carlos
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and I would definitely consider it a re-vamp from I or II.
sorry to spoil it for you, but...
bad news is Jar-Jar is back.
good news is that he doesn't say ONE word !!
Carlos
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
so....
back to my original post,
- baseline dyno you can't claim HP gain, if you don't know where it was before.
- good luck ! lofty goals ! You can do it. I hope your rich ! But you won't reach C32/C55 numbers without voiding your warranty (ie: completely new engine components), or spending $$$. $9K is not enough, believe me ! I'm trying to get my V6 C320 up to C32 specs, and that alone is over $10K. But like you, I'm modding for fun, so have fun !
- check your math like everyone has said, HP gains are not linear. HP = $$$$ And be very specific on how you're going to get each extra pony !!
I'm not hating ! You do the MODS you need to do ! Have fun !
It's just that you really need to research and take a reality check.
If you can't afford a $50 DYNO, where you gonna get the cash to get a C230K 4cyl up to C55 specs ??? I know, I know, in time, we will all see !
But by that time, the C55 will be as slow as hell !
Carlos
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back to my original post,
- baseline dyno
you can't claim HP gain, if you don't know where it was before.- good luck !
lofty goals ! You can do it. I hope your rich ! But you won't reach C32/C55 numbers without voiding your warranty (ie: completely new engine components), or spending $$$. $9K is not enough, believe me ! I'm trying to get my V6 C320 up to C32 specs, and that alone is over $10K. But like you, I'm modding for fun, so have fun !- check your math
like everyone has said, HP gains are not linear. HP = $$$$ And be very specific on how you're going to get each extra pony !!I'm not hating ! You do the MODS you need to do ! Have fun !
It's just that you really need to research and take a reality check.
If you can't afford a $50 DYNO, where you gonna get the cash to get a C230K 4cyl up to C55 specs ??? I know, I know, in time, we will all see !
But by that time, the C55 will be as slow as hell !
Carlos
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lololol i'm not hating, now you're lying. anyway... i am not doing mods because i have to or because i need to prove to anyone what HP increases are, i honestly don't give a fack, i'm doing it for fun. just for fun. i am not going to spend a ton of money on dumb stuff right away. i'm just gonna take my time, do one or two mods a month maybe and see what happens. i don't care about "specs" of other cars, i don't care about the dyno chart, i don't care about anything but having fun moddding. :p
also, last time i will say this, i am not going to void any warranties unless the mod directly causes a failure, THIS IS THE LAW not what MB says or what people on intraweb forums say. modding will not cause warranty voiding unless the part directly caused the failure. so enough with the "omg ohnoes voided warranty" posts please.
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lately it seems i can't make it to ICS at all or when i do it's like 7 or 8pm and the guys are trying to finish up and go home. i won't have that stock filter dyno any time soon guys. 
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
also, last time i will say this, i am not going to void any warranties unless the mod directly causes a failure, THIS IS THE LAW not what MB says or what people on intraweb forums say. modding will not cause warranty voiding unless the part directly caused the failure. so enough with the "omg ohnoes voided warranty" posts please.
You will find out in life that just because something is right it will not always turn out this way...I will almost guarantee you if it looks like an aftermarket part you put on your car in any way shape or form to them could have caused the damage you are wanting them to fix under warranty, they will deny the claim. If the local dealers reasoning is far stretched you might have some luck contacting the regional rep. to get them to cover it, but good luck.
Yes, you can fight it and yes, maybe your part did not cause the problem but the time, effort and money you will need to fight them on this will not be worth it.
So..basically keep all your original parts and make sure to install them back on before you head back to the dealer for related warranty work.
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