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timmys site has a lot of great info. do the 05 halogen lights have the same bulb sizes as the 01-04? i dont have halogen nor do i have an 01-05 so i cant RTFM!! 
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For some odd reason the 1156 don't fit my rear turn signals. The little bumps on the side don't align with the spaces for them on the panel. I just painted my original ones silver, let's see how that turns out.
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Pilot - On ebay, you bought the rear clear side markers from F1 correct? I emailed him like 2 days ago, if they would fit the 05's, and he said no they would not fit them.
But you said they do, cause you did it for your friend?
But you said they do, cause you did it for your friend?
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................ Bell Helicopter & '05 C230 SS
Originally Posted by vishaL iZ mE
Pilot - On ebay, you bought the rear clear side markers from F1 correct? I emailed him like 2 days ago, if they would fit the 05's, and he said no they would not fit them.
But you said they do, cause you did it for your friend?
But you said they do, cause you did it for your friend?
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lol its F1's loss then - - he could be making more money by stating that they do fit on 05's. Ouch! Just don't get that finger infected, won't be pretty!
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................ Bell Helicopter & '05 C230 SS
Originally Posted by PRHeloPilot
For some odd reason the 1156 didn't fit my rear turn signals. The little bumps on the side don't align with the spaces for them on the panel.
The '05 WITHOUT XENONS use the 1156A while the ones WITH XENONS use 2357A for the front.
For the REAR you use a bulb called PY 21 W .
Front fog lamps use HB4 (51W)
Straight from the manual so I hope this helps.
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yes PY21W are the same as 1156 as far as base size and wattage, number of filaments. the difference is the nipples that are on the base. the 1156, the nipples are directly across from each other, 12 and 6 oclock, opposite on the base. on the PY21W, the nipples are like 12 oclock and 4:30.
PY21W are Euro version
1156 is NA
PY21W are Euro version
1156 is NA
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................ Bell Helicopter & '05 C230 SS
Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
yes PY21W are the same as 1156 as far as base size and wattage, number of filaments. the difference is the nipples that are on the base. the 1156, the nipples are directly across from each other, 12 and 6 oclock, opposite on the base. on the PY21W, the nipples are like 12 oclock and 4:30.
PY21W are Euro version
1156 is NA
PY21W are Euro version
1156 is NA
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oh. the PY21W ive used before in US spec lamps, i had to remove a nipple in order for them to fit. no biggie. like i said since my 05 tails are euro spec the PY21W fit perfectly.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
oh. the PY21W ive used before in US spec lamps, i had to remove a nipple in order for them to fit. no biggie. like i said since my 05 tails are euro spec the PY21W fit perfectly.
Now I know I can take the 1156A and grind off one of the nipples and it should work in a pinch if I ever can't find the PYs.
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................ Bell Helicopter & '05 C230 SS
If now we could only find someone who will sell the 194 (W5W) bulbs that will be clear and match the whiteness of the Bi-Xenons and we'll be in business !
The closest I found was AMBulbs.com (W5W Xtreme White $14 a pair) but still you can't be sure if they'll be white enough.
Anybody have clear side markers and good white bulbs ? Where did you get them and what's the part number ?
The closest I found was AMBulbs.com (W5W Xtreme White $14 a pair) but still you can't be sure if they'll be white enough.
Anybody have clear side markers and good white bulbs ? Where did you get them and what's the part number ?
Last edited by PRHeloPilot; Sep 23, 2004 at 11:44 PM.
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I got some recommendations here from Citron and a couple of others on the board. They said to get the Xtreme White Piaa bulbs so that is what I got for my side markers and parking lights. That way I could have the whole HID look across all the lights.
Also, I am waiting for those bulbs and the clear side markers from F1. Both got shipped yesterday and today, respectively.
Also, I am waiting for those bulbs and the clear side markers from F1. Both got shipped yesterday and today, respectively.
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OK, I checked and the PIAA Extreme White are the same ones I was talking about on AMBulbs.com.
The problem with those is that we're going to have blue bulbs showing through the CLEAR side markers during the day when they aren't turned on.
Did you consider that when you ordered them ?
That's why I'm still asking around and looking for a really white light when it's turned on from a bulb that is either clear or silver, but not blue.
The problem with those is that we're going to have blue bulbs showing through the CLEAR side markers during the day when they aren't turned on.
Did you consider that when you ordered them ?
That's why I'm still asking around and looking for a really white light when it's turned on from a bulb that is either clear or silver, but not blue.
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'05 C230K SS
Since I started this thread...
...I thought I should "finish" it.
I finally got my clear sidemarkers. F1Sports via EBay. F1Sports actually is just an EBay account/front for A-Spec Corporation btw.
Got mine, popped them in, and it's great! The rear (as in towards the rear of the car) ends of the markers flare out just a tiny bit, maybe .3cm. It's not because it is loose though. The housing snaps very snugly into the hole in the rubstrip. I don't forsee any rattling, and it doesn't feel loose at all. I think flare is due to the lens/housing not being shaped quite exactly like the OEM part. It is a little flatter, while the OEM part curves ever so slightly more.
But it's a minor quibble, not noticeable if you're standing more than 1-2 feet away.
I love it! Definitely recommended. Sorry no pix right now. If you want to see what it looks like, it looks exactly the same as TOPSPIN71's install, of which there is a picture on the second post in this thread.
HOORAY! Thanks for everyone's help. It's my first real mod. I hope this thread helps others.
I finally got my clear sidemarkers. F1Sports via EBay. F1Sports actually is just an EBay account/front for A-Spec Corporation btw.
Got mine, popped them in, and it's great! The rear (as in towards the rear of the car) ends of the markers flare out just a tiny bit, maybe .3cm. It's not because it is loose though. The housing snaps very snugly into the hole in the rubstrip. I don't forsee any rattling, and it doesn't feel loose at all. I think flare is due to the lens/housing not being shaped quite exactly like the OEM part. It is a little flatter, while the OEM part curves ever so slightly more.
But it's a minor quibble, not noticeable if you're standing more than 1-2 feet away.
I love it! Definitely recommended. Sorry no pix right now. If you want to see what it looks like, it looks exactly the same as TOPSPIN71's install, of which there is a picture on the second post in this thread.
HOORAY! Thanks for everyone's help. It's my first real mod. I hope this thread helps others.
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You're lucky. I've cut my finger installing and reinstalling those clear lens and mine haven't gotten here yet. Now I check the USPS webpage at it says that they were delivered !!!
Oh well, I guess now I have to wait for the USPS tracer to see who they delivered it to.
Congrats on your 1st mod !
Oh well, I guess now I have to wait for the USPS tracer to see who they delivered it to.
Congrats on your 1st mod !
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BTW, now that you have the clear markers and you can see that the bulbs are not as bright as the other ones, have you decided what bulbs to buy ?
I'm trying to get some for my neighbor but at the same time for myself because I'm still hopeful that someday they will arrive.
I'm trying to get some for my neighbor but at the same time for myself because I'm still hopeful that someday they will arrive.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
there doesn't seem to be a cure for the modding disease though! 
Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
once again, ive been proven wrong!!!!
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'05 C230K SS
Originally Posted by PRHeloPilot
You're lucky. I've cut my finger installing and reinstalling those clear lens and mine haven't gotten here yet. Now I check the USPS webpage at it says that they were delivered !!!
Oh well, I guess now I have to wait for the USPS tracer to see who they delivered it to.
Congrats on your 1st mod !
Oh well, I guess now I have to wait for the USPS tracer to see who they delivered it to.
Congrats on your 1st mod !
I have had packages totally lost before. Tracking page says "delivered!", but nothing on my porch! Either someone stole it right off the porch, or the shipping company totally screwed up. It sucks.
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'05 C230K SS
Originally Posted by PRHeloPilot
BTW, now that you have the clear markers and you can see that the bulbs are not as bright as the other ones, have you decided what bulbs to buy ?
I'm trying to get some for my neighbor but at the same time for myself because I'm still hopeful that someday they will arrive.
I'm trying to get some for my neighbor but at the same time for myself because I'm still hopeful that someday they will arrive.
Mine look exactly like TOPSPIN71's, who posted a pic in the second post of this thread.
