C-Class (W203) 2001-2007, C160, C180, C200, C220, C230, C240, C270, C280, C300, C320, C230K, C350, Coupe

I HATE Rusty Rotors!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 01-11-2006, 06:38 PM
  #1  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Roupin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Encino, CA
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
a toy
I HATE Rusty Rotors!!

All I have to do is wash the car, and by the time I'm done there is a surface layer of rust on the rotors. I know it only requires a short little drive to clean off, but it looks disgusting

Yuck!

Btw, it's a 2006 C230SS.
Old 01-11-2006, 07:37 PM
  #2  
Super Member
 
wingless's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 911
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Debadged 6-Speed '05 C320 Sports Coupe
Get a Porsche with the optional ceramic rotors, no more rust.

Porsche also "fine tunes" the braking systems, resulting from extensive testing. For example, they found that a turbo charged vehicle requires red calipers to brake properly.

On that same line, they found that ceramic brakes require yellow calipers.
Old 01-11-2006, 10:54 PM
  #3  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Roupin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Encino, CA
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
a toy
lol...good one...

And the AMG badge adds 15 rwhp right?
Old 01-11-2006, 11:03 PM
  #4  
Super Member
 
cdiken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 551
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
2005 Carlsson CD32 E320 CDI Inline-6
Each ceramic rotor costs more than a 1994 Roadmaster

Roadmaster 1994 LT1 went thru a local auction for $700 last week.

http://www.mycvaa.com/last_weeks_sales.htm
Old 01-11-2006, 11:07 PM
  #5  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Roupin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Encino, CA
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
a toy
Yeah the ones in bad shape hold no value. Hell the clean ones don't keep much value either. The exceptionally mint condition ones sell through Buick clubs and the sort for just under $10K.

It's a very fun car, but when it comes down to it, it's just a 10 year old American car.

The only reason for any interest is it shares the same engine/drivetrain as the 94-96 Chevy Impalas, so mods are cheap and plentiful.

And yes, we bought the car new.

Btw Cdiken, what does that have to do with my post about the rusty rotors on our C230? :p
Old 01-12-2006, 12:13 AM
  #6  
Super Member
 
cdiken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 551
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
2005 Carlsson CD32 E320 CDI Inline-6
Nothing...

was responding to the wingless post about Ceramic rotors, and saw a giant picture of a Roadmaster.

I'd like to get a cheap Roadmaster and use it for a Roast Master. Disconnect and plug the right-rear brake line, and just stand and burn the rear wheels with the moster torque of the LT1 through an open differential.

Last edited by cdiken; 01-12-2006 at 12:16 AM.
Old 01-12-2006, 01:11 AM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
white_w203's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Bay, CA
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
is SOLD
i dont think its rust. its the combination of water and brake dust that puts a coat on the rotor. don't worry about it.
Old 01-12-2006, 01:55 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Untouchable08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: orlando
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2005 C230
Originally Posted by white_w203
i dont think its rust. its the combination of water and brake dust that puts a coat on the rotor. don't worry about it.

yea my dealer just told me to paint them..its not rust.
Old 01-12-2006, 08:29 AM
  #9  
Super Member
 
wingless's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 911
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Debadged 6-Speed '05 C320 Sports Coupe
Originally Posted by white_w203
i dont think its rust. its the combination of water and brake dust that puts a coat on the rotor. don't worry about it.
Right. That dull, golden-brown patina that appears when water dries on unprotected steel in an oxygen-rich environment is not rust, it’s … something totally different.
Originally Posted by Untouchable08
yea my dealer just told me to paint them..its not rust.
Please post pictures of your painted rotors. Please also post pictures after these have been used to show how well they last.
Old 01-12-2006, 10:34 AM
  #10  
Super Member
 
LowCaliTi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: nJ/pHiLLy/nY
Posts: 630
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Audi 225 TT.w203 sedan.Bmw 318tiCali.Ed.VW Jetta vr6
mine were done, i will post pics later
Old 01-12-2006, 11:53 AM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
mleskovar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Huntington Beach, Ca.
Posts: 5,784
Received 148 Likes on 132 Posts
'17 Jaguar XF
Originally Posted by wingless
Right. That dull, golden-brown patina that appears when water dries on unprotected steel in an oxygen-rich environment is not rust, it’s ….
It is rust by definition. Can't stop it on steel rotors.
Old 01-12-2006, 12:54 PM
  #12  
ON PROBATION
 
ClayJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,024
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mleskovar
It is rust by definition. Can't stop it on steel rotors.
EXACTLY.
Old 01-12-2006, 02:22 PM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
360_iti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI
Posts: 2,255
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
W203, W211, W219, W212
Originally Posted by Untouchable08
yea my dealer just told me to paint them..its not rust.
I have yet to see it. I'm assuming you just paint the part that is not swept by the brake pads.
Old 01-12-2006, 02:27 PM
  #14  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Roupin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Encino, CA
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
a toy
My Roadmaster has an LSD...I roast both tires.

Btw, linelock only goes for about $100.

As for the rotors on the C230, the "petina" is definitely rust and CANNOT be painted. The paint will interfere with the heat transfer of the rotors to begin with.

Secondly, I was merely surprised that MB uses rotors that haven't been treated (zinc wash?) to prevent this rusting. The rotors on my Jeep or Buick don't rust at all and the MB kind of ticked me off in that aspect.

Oh well...


Originally Posted by cdiken
was responding to the wingless post about Ceramic rotors, and saw a giant picture of a Roadmaster.

I'd like to get a cheap Roadmaster and use it for a Roast Master. Disconnect and plug the right-rear brake line, and just stand and burn the rear wheels with the moster torque of the LT1 through an open differential.
Old 01-12-2006, 03:23 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
HoustonC230's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2010 C300
You can paint the area near the center, where the pads don't make contact.

You'll always have rust after you get water on the rotors though - nothing you can do about that.
Old 01-12-2006, 09:16 PM
  #16  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
Roupin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Encino, CA
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
a toy
Any sort of paint or powdercoat on ANY part of the rotor will interfere with the heat transfer. I just got to see proof of that a couple months ago on another board I'm on, after someone powdercoated the center portion.

I would "upgrade" the rotors to a different brand if I could to get rid of the rust issue, but I'm also concerned about aftermarket cross drilled rotors.

The OEM rotors have their holes cast into the rotor, while the aftermarket idiots drill them with a freakin drill after they are made.

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to live with this gripe. Can't really complain since everything else on the car is 100%.
Old 01-12-2006, 09:20 PM
  #17  
Out Of Control!!
 
vraa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 28,933
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Originally Posted by wingless
Get a Porsche with the optional ceramic rotors, no more rust.

Porsche also "fine tunes" the braking systems, resulting from extensive testing. For example, they found that a turbo charged vehicle requires red calipers to brake properly.

On that same line, they found that ceramic brakes require yellow calipers.
Where did you get the information about the colored calipers?
Old 01-12-2006, 09:58 PM
  #18  
ON PROBATION
 
ClayJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,024
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hearsay has it that CGT's come standard with the yellow calipers (and with ceramic rotors) and that another color (like red) is an option in ordering.... Maybe the other models with turbos come standard with red calipers?

You think that's where he got it from?
Old 01-12-2006, 10:03 PM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
mick1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,015
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2005 C320wz
the reason you hate them is because your car is still new. When it gets a little bit older, you will not care about those rusty rotors anymore
Old 01-12-2006, 10:23 PM
  #20  
Out Of Control!!
 
vraa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 28,933
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Originally Posted by ClayJ
Hearsay has it that CGT's come standard with the yellow calipers (and with ceramic rotors) and that another color (like red) is an option in ordering.... Maybe the other models with turbos come standard with red calipers?

You think that's where he got it from?
I was referring more so to the part where he mentioned that the brake types 'required' those color calipers.

I was under the impression that painted calipers are strictly a cosmetic modification.
Old 01-12-2006, 10:54 PM
  #21  
ON PROBATION
 
ClayJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,024
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And I wasn't being facetious?!!! LOL. I do think that the CGT's come standard painted in yellow, and the turbo'd models in red.... I almost always paint my calipersif they don't come that way just for the cleanliness factor....
Believe me, the color of the paint has nothing to do with their performance, Icky Ricky! LOL Now don't you worry your pretty little head or lose any sleep over this, OK? hahahahahaha.
Old 01-19-2006, 04:17 PM
  #22  
Super Member
 
LowCaliTi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: nJ/pHiLLy/nY
Posts: 630
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Audi 225 TT.w203 sedan.Bmw 318tiCali.Ed.VW Jetta vr6
cam fone pics, real quick, but u can see where is painted, had them preped and painted at my buddies body shop, looks 110% better, i hate rusty rotors too
Attached Thumbnails I HATE Rusty Rotors!!-brakes1.jpg   I HATE Rusty Rotors!!-brakes2.jpg   I HATE Rusty Rotors!!-brakes3.jpg  
Old 01-19-2006, 08:28 PM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
SeaCoupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,206
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
Rolling my eyes

I'm honestly a bit perplexed that you have enough energy to "hate" rusted rotors. Too much time on your hands. All respect to you for buying a Mercedes, but this goes way beyond concern.

Edward
Old 01-19-2006, 10:36 PM
  #24  
Super Member
 
LowCaliTi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: nJ/pHiLLy/nY
Posts: 630
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Audi 225 TT.w203 sedan.Bmw 318tiCali.Ed.VW Jetta vr6
Originally Posted by emrliquidlife
I'm honestly a bit perplexed that you have enough energy to "hate" rusted rotors. Too much time on your hands. All respect to you for buying a Mercedes, but this goes way beyond concern.

Edward
sorry for tryn to "keep it clean" i like all my stuff fresh, new, clean, detailed, or whatever. but deff not too mutch time. but enjoy YOUR rusty rotors pal
Old 01-20-2006, 12:06 AM
  #25  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
SeaCoupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,206
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
Sigh...

Originally Posted by LowCaliTi
sorry for tryn to "keep it clean" i like all my stuff fresh, new, clean, detailed, or whatever. but deff not too mutch time. but enjoy YOUR rusty rotors pal
You are TRULY missing the point here. Let me be simple:
You wash, you dry. Rotors are rusted. How long does it take before you drive your car? If it is THAT important. Put it in forward, drive, then park. Feel better?

Emoticans simply not needed here.

Edward
Manhattan Beach, CA


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: I HATE Rusty Rotors!!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:57 AM.