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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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Engine upgrades for C350 Sport?

Anyone make upgrades for the C350/SLK350? Did a search, nothing came up. I'm looking for more power....pulleys, exhaust, headers, intake, ecu etc.etc. Looks like I can put a higher final drive off a C230 or SLK350 for better acceleration.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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The only thigs I've been able to find are ECU upgrades so far. Renntech has one that says it will give us 10hp for $1,300.

Powerchip has one that also claims 10-15hp for $850 or so.

http://www.powerchipgroup.com/produc...=Mercedes-Benz

I also think this engine has a lot of potential. I think it's underrated and with a couple mods, get into the high 13's with a 0-60 breaking into the 4's.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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as of right now.. there arent any engine mods bc of the new engine... but they will come out sooner or later... but there are ECU upgrades like wat e1000 sed...
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MBNorCal
Anyone make upgrades for the C350/SLK350? Did a search, nothing came up. I'm looking for more power....pulleys, exhaust, headers, intake, ecu etc.etc. Looks like I can put a higher final drive off a C230 or SLK350 for better acceleration.

Aren't pulleys for SC cars? <~sorry if thats retarded...that and cant you use an exhaust made for the C320 engine? They are both NA V6s so you wouldnt have to worry about that whole backpressure issue discussed in using V6 exhausts for M271...I might be wrong but it makes sense to me
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by StillKickin
...cant you use an exhaust made for the C320 engine? ....
Now that doesn't make sense. You want to use the exhaust from an older tech V6 on the newer tech V6.

And where did this thread talk about 4-bangers (ref m271)?
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Now that doesn't make sense. You want to use the exhaust from an older tech V6 on the newer tech V6.

And where did this thread talk about 4-bangers (ref m271)?

The engine is new, exhaust is still exhaust? The reference to the M271 was made because there was an earlier thread about backpressure and problems arising from it in regards to using exhausts for the V6 on the I4 and vice versa. Or maybe it all really doesnt make sense and Im bein retarded
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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...Or maybe it all really doesnt make sense and Im bein retarded
OK. You win. You're retarded. {ducksandhidesquicklytoescapewrath} (j/k)
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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We may be able to use a C320 cat back but i'd bet the headers are different between the M272 and the previous V6.

There are many pullies in a car. Yes, most pullies are for supercharged cars. These pulleys increase the boost a supercharger generates by making it spin faster. A pully can also be an accessory pully. These can significantly reduce the power required to drive the car's accessories such as the A/C and alternator. These types of pullies do not increase the amount of power an engine makes, rather decreases the power lost.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by e1000
We may be able to use a C320 cat back but i'd bet the headers are different between the M272 and the previous V6.

There are many pullies in a car. Yes, most pullies are for supercharged cars. These pulleys increase the boost a supercharger generates by making it spin faster. A pully can also be an accessory pully. These can significantly reduce the power required to drive the car's accessories such as the A/C and alternator. These types of pullies do not increase the amount of power an engine makes, rather decreases the power lost.
Thanks for the clarification...as far as exhaust and headers he mentioned those seperately by exhaust I meant like the Eisenmann exhaust...or is that just a muffler and not really an exhaust?
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by StillKickin
Thanks for the clarification...as far as exhaust and headers he mentioned those seperately by exhaust I meant like the Eisenmann exhaust...or is that just a muffler and not really an exhaust?
From the website, the Eisenmann exhaust looks like a "cat back" system. This means that the exhaust only includes the piping starting behind the catalytic converter and a muffler. These systems can still net a couple ponies. A full exhaust system would be a header, possibly a catalytic converter, and a full cat back system.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Alright... after driving the car for a couple days and looking at every C350, SLK350 timesheet, I have come to the conclusion that we NEED to dyno the M272 immediately. Does anyone know a place I can get my car dyno'd in northwest Chicago? I have a sneaking suspicion that the M272 is underrated.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by e1000
Alright... after driving the car for a couple days and looking at every C350, SLK350 timesheet, I have come to the conclusion that we NEED to dyno the M272 immediately. Does anyone know a place I can get my car dyno'd in northwest Chicago? I have a sneaking suspicion that the M272 is underrated.
i would like to see this too.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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wait a while... and do a supercharger! for a N/A engine, its hard to do any mods thats goin to have a big enough gain that you will feel. unless you do the whole package: intake,exhaust, throttle body, cams, port n' polish, software. the money you spent will = to a supercharger.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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wait a while... and do a supercharger! for a N/A engine, its hard to do any mods thats goin to have a big enough gain that you will feel. unless you do the whole package: intake,exhaust, throttle body, cams, port n' polish, software. the money you spent will = to a supercharger.
Totally agree !! Kleenmann will have the supercharger kit in a few month ! Star save money now !
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 03:59 AM
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Totally agree !! Kleenmann will have the supercharger kit in a few month ! Star save money now !
any info on this?
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Does all of the above apply to the '06 C230 V6 as well as the C320 V6 from '05??? Looking for a way to increase HP a little without breaking the bank? I'm new to the Mercedes thing and trying to learn.

Sorry if this does not belong here, but I started another thread on this and it got shut down. Found this using the search function like I'm suposed to.......slapping hand for being a bad, bad boy
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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ecu is the fastest and easiest mod to make for a new car. you could get a drop in filter if K&n has one. exhaust meant for a c320 should be possible.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Check out the latest 350 tuning by MKB. The 350 engine truly has a lot of potential, as the ECU tuning alone will bring your 0-100km time down by about 1 second. I will be doing the ECU tuning next week and will let you know the difference.

http://www.mkb-tuning.de/pages_en/pr...prod_gruppe=11
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by shimmers
Check out the latest 350 tuning by MKB. The 350 engine truly has a lot of potential, as the ECU tuning alone will bring your 0-100km time down by about 1 second. I will be doing the ECU tuning next week and will let you know the difference.

http://www.mkb-tuning.de/pages_en/pr...prod_gruppe=11


I wonder how this would mix with the new Kleemann headers.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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I think it is just a matter of time until mods show up for the 350 engine. It does feel good in the 350 C Sport.

I'm guessing the Kleeman kit would be at least $9,500 or more, and install would be $2000? Ouch, That is a lot of bread.

But, I'd love to see it.

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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Might want to check out our new lineup of Speed Innovation Software:

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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Sorry in advance, I don't have any info to add about mods for the M272 - But I am interested in what has been posted so far. I would just like to add a few general comments.

I gotta say my 350 w/ 6spd gets up and MOVES. I did some gentlemanly highway playing with a new 335i the other night and the 350 held up STRONG. Everytime the 335i gunned it, I was able to stay right with him. Plus there are numerous other examples with other cars.

Secondly, have most of you mod'ers mod'ed multiple cars? I.e., have you mod'ed new cars that you upgraded to? Reason I ask is that I spent a lot of time and money back in the day modding the '94 Taurus SHO that I had and in the end really didn't feel like I gained that much or that is was really worth doing. I am talking about ECU, intake, exhaust, pulleys, etc. I like the idea of an even faster 350, but I guess I am a little gun shy. Plus, at this point I prefer just to drive and enjoy the car the way it is and spend my money on booze and chics... But then again I am getting a bit old.

And really for cost of a Kleeman kit, one should have just bought the C55 - You'd get a lot more.

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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:05 AM
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Totally agree !! Kleenmann will have the supercharger kit in a few month ! Star save money now !
kleemann super charger rock!!
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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Meanwhile you should upgrade your exhaust, get a custom header, highflow cat, K&N filters, Schrick cams. These are a preliminary upgrade that you should have before getting the beast supercharger in.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by shimmers
Check out the latest 350 tuning by MKB. The 350 engine truly has a lot of potential, as the ECU tuning alone will bring your 0-100km time down by about 1 second. I will be doing the ECU tuning next week and will let you know the difference.

http://www.mkb-tuning.de/pages_en/pr...prod_gruppe=11
Just got an email back from MKB. The cost for this ECU update is $2800 and you have to ship your ECU to Germany so they can modify it. OUCH! So did you buy this kit?

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