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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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That's not what I meant.

"Butt dyno" was the noun, "filled up" was the adjective, . . . ahh, fuggetabout it . . .
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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Thats ok, SoCal, I think I missed your point the first time, but maybe I get it now. The stock setup is a resonator and a very strangely shaped muffler. The Kleemann exhaust is just the muffler, and it leaves the resonator on.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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C7 or Evolution deletes the resonator.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 10:21 PM
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Andrew...arnt you suppose to take tha "D" off???
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 10:55 PM
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Yeah, but I cant bring myself to do it!
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 01:23 AM
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the inner part of your kleemann exhaust looks identical to my remus. only my tips are completly round. does remus make the exhuast for kleemann?
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 12:37 PM
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What does the rest of your muffler look like BlackC230Coupe? First off, it is kind of oddly shaoed like the stock muffler? And is it finished in a matte black finish with polished tips?
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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Hey Blackc230coupe. How does that REMUS sound? Where did ya get it and how much was it?

Thanks man!
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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The Remus and the Kleemann look the same...whats the price differences?

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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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I dont know what the Remus is, but the Kleemann was US $765.
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 07:19 PM
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I thought Remus would look like Romulus.:p
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 10:25 PM
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The Remus muffler looks like this. Does the Kleemann look the same? I've heard all the tuner exhuasts are either Remus or Supersprint.
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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Yes, it looks like that except it says "Kleemann" on the tips, and the tips are more oval shaped.

Also I've noticed that the sound of the "Kleemann" muffler sounds alot like a couple of the sound samples from the Remus website, so I'm sure they are the same.

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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by AndrewK
I dont know what the Remus is, but the Kleemann was US $765.
Ouch, $765 for a muffler, its not even a catback. Can anyone confirm the price of the Remus?

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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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I dunno about the Remus, but $765 is well below the rediculous $1400-$1500 for a Brabus or Lorinser. Also the Renntech is more at $790, or $890 for cat-back.
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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The Remus lists for $579, D2 told me they can do it for $500. The list price on the Supersprint is $453.10 muffler with dual square tips, $587.39 muffler with dual class tips. My guess is you can do about 10-15% off those numbers. You are always going to pay more for the tuner name on it.
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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Where can I get a remus?

Superspring make an exhaust for our 230K?

I talked to evosport they were really nice, but Im not sure i want to plop 700 on an eisennmenn race muffler.

Thanks!
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
Ouch, $765 for a muffler, its not even a catback. Can anyone confirm the price of the Remus?

Erik
Huhh? Aren't all of these aftermarket mufflers catbacks?

Anyways, that's a nice looking muffler - not obnoxiously overdone like a lot of aftermarket mufflers. Looks good on the car.

Andrew - did you take the D off in real life, or Photoshop?!?
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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All these mufflers are just that, mufflers. I dont think there is a cat back system for our cars? Im not sure tho.

I just dont see a muffler being worth 765, like for the sound it makes, cant I get a cheaper one?

Not trying to be cheap but I think I can spend 765 on my C230 on different little items to personalize it. I just want a deeper sound and it loud when i punch it to the floor.

Any ideas?
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 12:20 AM
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Check with Dee at D2Technik.com, he quoted me $500 for the Remus. I think I would still go with the Supersprint. They make more than a catback, they sell from headers to muffler for the coupe. D2 also sell the Supersprint. I think the Supersprint for abuot $400 is the best buy of them all. The prices I got on Supersprint came directly from their distributor as list prices and both those mufflers are available.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by AndrewK
What does the rest of your muffler look like BlackC230Coupe? First off, it is kind of oddly shaoed like the stock muffler? And is it finished in a matte black finish with polished tips?
the picture Buellwinke posted is my muffler, i took that and a cupple other pics before i got it installed. I got more pics of it in the box if u want. And yes the muffler is a little oddly shaped but not as bad as the stock one. Does yours bolt on the same as mine?


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Hey Blackc230coupe. How does that REMUS sound? Where did ya get it and how much was it?

Thanks man!
The remus sounds great to me. it has a nice deep throughty sound and at redline it sounds awsome, during normal driving u dont really hear anything. I got it from CEC Wheels for around $580.00 if i remember correctly. They also come in 3 different tip styles, Round, Square and DTM style, I ordered the square and i somehow got the round but i did not return it because i actually liked it alot. I was told from CEC that they make a cat back peice to go along with the muffler for the c230 for like $150.00 but i did not get it.




Originally posted by SoCal240/6
Anyways, that's a nice looking muffler - not obnoxiously overdone like a lot of aftermarket mufflers. Looks good on the car.
OMG! that is the nicest thing i ever seen u write on this whole fourm! good work!

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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 01:13 AM
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AndrewK - If Renntech is $790 for the muffler and $890 for the catback, then its well worth the extra $100 jump for the full exhaust, a muffler on its own is basically a waste if the pipe leading up to it is smaller.

SoCal240/6 - I'd say most aftermarket mufflers are just mufflers, which in reality (dyno and otherwise) do almost no good on its own.

x15jq - Deeper sounds are hard to reach on a 4cyl application. Ever hear a Civic with a loud muffler? It sounds like a lawn mower.

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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 03:51 AM
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NICE mufflers, BlackC230coupe, and AndrewK.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by SoCal240/6

Anyways, that's a nice looking muffler - not obnoxiously overdone like a lot of aftermarket mufflers. Looks good on the car.

Andrew - did you take the D off in real life, or Photoshop?!?
Thats a photoshop job, but I think I'll take it off in real life as well. Thanks for the complement!

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