View Poll Results: Opinion of the Panorama Roof
The Panorama Roof is a Necessity
107
75.35%
Take it or Leave it, I don't care
12
8.45%
Forget it, Spend your money on a Pulley
23
16.20%
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CL203 Coupe Pano-roof Maintenance - MB lube Grease Part #s, gears, & fixes
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Sounds exactly like the problem I had, I just resetted it. Have your key in the "On" position in ignition and just hold down the button on your sunroof as if you are tilting it open...press all the way down on the button...hold for about 10-15 seconds? Then turn off ignition...and turn it back on...give it a try...hope this helps.
its starting to be a huge hassle... I really love the way my car handles and the performance of it... the engine just has this beautiful sound and plenty of power for a daily driver but im really starting to see a trend of cheap everything else that is going to stop me from buying a mercedes again... this is my first mercedes and while i understand its their lowest end... it should still have quality... there is simply no reason to be broken at this early in its life... sure its at its 5th year mark... but it only has 35k miles on it... and it broke 8k ago.... sooo aggravated right now at this car...
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Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Redding, California
AMG GTS
I actually think that the "Guide" that follows the rail is broken... i can close the sunroof to the tilt position but any further than that and the passenger side goes down and the driver side stays up... i should be able to get a picture in a few minutes posted... but im not sure how much this is going to help....
its starting to be a huge hassle... I really love the way my car handles and the performance of it... the engine just has this beautiful sound and plenty of power for a daily driver but im really starting to see a trend of cheap everything else that is going to stop me from buying a mercedes again... this is my first mercedes and while i understand its their lowest end... it should still have quality... there is simply no reason to be broken at this early in its life... sure its at its 5th year mark... but it only has 35k miles on it... and it broke 8k ago.... sooo aggravated right now at this car...
its starting to be a huge hassle... I really love the way my car handles and the performance of it... the engine just has this beautiful sound and plenty of power for a daily driver but im really starting to see a trend of cheap everything else that is going to stop me from buying a mercedes again... this is my first mercedes and while i understand its their lowest end... it should still have quality... there is simply no reason to be broken at this early in its life... sure its at its 5th year mark... but it only has 35k miles on it... and it broke 8k ago.... sooo aggravated right now at this car...
Newbie
Joined: Apr 2007
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i would really <3 some part numbers and approximated prices... and if possible a few hints and tips at sun roof disassembly :-). While I am a mechanic and could possibly get it apart and back together with as few broken parts as possible... its still nice to get experienced feedback from people who have already broken those parts 
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From: Portugal
'13 E500 Coupe AMG// '17 E350d // '24 E53 AMG
well i had a similar problem with my sunroof, except it was all out of wack and it wouldn't reset. i took it to the dealer and apparantly they hooked it up to he DAS and couldn't reset the error so they concluded i needed a new motor for $1000...... i took the number 9 fuse out of the trunk panel, put it back in and voila, the roof was reset and works perfectly ever since...try it you never know.
Where is the fuse box at the trunk?
Could be the Euro cars the same as US??
I have the same problem, but the roof opens all the way back and close, nothing more!!!
How to reset the roof? (I have a sedan owners manual and I tried it as discrebed but no luck, maybe in the coupe is diferent!?
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From: vancouver canada
2001 c240, 65 MG Midget...5.0L V8
well i have a sedan and they do have a rear SAM and fuse box, don't know about coupes though. i know the european sedans also have a rear fuse box. in either case just look for the sunroof fuse and reset it.
good luck, please let me know if it worked i wanna know i fluked out or the method does acctually work.
good luck, please let me know if it worked i wanna know i fluked out or the method does acctually work.
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From: Portugal
'13 E500 Coupe AMG// '17 E350d // '24 E53 AMG
I tryed the "fuse n.9" and no luck, I checked the fuse map on the fuse box on the driver side, and it seams the fuse 9 on the boot its for more equipment like sun roof, rain sensor, auto-diming mirror...
More strange is that, the roof works, but only to open all the way back and close, but no more functions!!!
Could be the operation stwich since the motor is working!!
Any info how to reset the roof? I searched but no info on that, only to check owners manual, and I don't have the coupe one...
Please help!
More strange is that, the roof works, but only to open all the way back and close, but no more functions!!!
Could be the operation stwich since the motor is working!!
Any info how to reset the roof? I searched but no info on that, only to check owners manual, and I don't have the coupe one...
Please help!
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From: vancouver canada
2001 c240, 65 MG Midget...5.0L V8
hmmm can't help you there man, i probably just lucked out with the fuse reset. it could be the switch as you are saying but i just don't know w/o further testing.
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From: Portugal
'13 E500 Coupe AMG// '17 E350d // '24 E53 AMG
All fine now!
Just a reset and worked fine.
I will post how to:
first open all the way back, keep pushing the button for 3 sec,
than, close the roof
an now open the roof up and keep pushing for another 3 sec,
and thats it, close it and test it if is working, if not, do it again.
Just a reset and worked fine.
I will post how to:
first open all the way back, keep pushing the button for 3 sec,
than, close the roof
an now open the roof up and keep pushing for another 3 sec,
and thats it, close it and test it if is working, if not, do it again.
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"Buzzing" when panorama roof open
I just got into a 04 C230K coupe and I noticed the front lift panel of the panorama roof has this lip thing on it...when im in the car driving at higher sppeds with the roof open i notice this really loud buzzing sound...when i had my 02 C230K the roof didnt have that lip and i never heard anything. did anyone else hear this on theirs? or is something broken on mine? if it is common, is there a remedy?
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2002 C230 Coupe needs pano-roof help
I am trying to find out if anyone knows the parts numbers or where to get the parts to repair the sunroof on my 2002 c230 sport coupe w203. If anyone has any leads or insights I would greatly appreciate a reply. Thanks
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CL203 Pano-roof Maintenance - MB lube Grease Part #s, gears, & fixes
For those with sunroofs, the Mercedes part #s are
MB Special Lubricant - For lubricating outer guide rail of panorama roof
001 989 50 51
MB Lubrication Paste - For cleaning outer/inner channel, shift gate, pivot arm of wind deflector of top sliding roof (panorama roof)
001 989 46 51
Apparently, this is also known as Klueber Polylub GLY 801 (see page 14 of this Maybach document http://www.mercedestechstore.com/pdf...2006-06-03.pdf ). I believe they're a Germain company.
I found the part #s here: http://www.billsden.org/fileadmin/me...ducts_2005.pdf
There are part #s for many other MB spec oils, filters, lubricants, greases, etc.
For sunroof maintenance, regularly clean the rubber seal surrounding the roof that comes into contact with the glass panel. Clean the underside of the glass panel as well, particularly where it contacts the rubber seal. "Rubber Care Gel Stick" from Wurth is supposed to be good to apply to the rubber seal once its clean. As for the aforementioned lubricants, I'm not sure really what the difference is as I've yet to procure either.
Any others want to chime in on keeping their malfunction-prone panoroma sunroofs operating for years to come?
MB Special Lubricant - For lubricating outer guide rail of panorama roof
001 989 50 51
MB Lubrication Paste - For cleaning outer/inner channel, shift gate, pivot arm of wind deflector of top sliding roof (panorama roof)
001 989 46 51
Apparently, this is also known as Klueber Polylub GLY 801 (see page 14 of this Maybach document http://www.mercedestechstore.com/pdf...2006-06-03.pdf ). I believe they're a Germain company.
I found the part #s here: http://www.billsden.org/fileadmin/me...ducts_2005.pdf
There are part #s for many other MB spec oils, filters, lubricants, greases, etc.
For sunroof maintenance, regularly clean the rubber seal surrounding the roof that comes into contact with the glass panel. Clean the underside of the glass panel as well, particularly where it contacts the rubber seal. "Rubber Care Gel Stick" from Wurth is supposed to be good to apply to the rubber seal once its clean. As for the aforementioned lubricants, I'm not sure really what the difference is as I've yet to procure either.
Any others want to chime in on keeping their malfunction-prone panoroma sunroofs operating for years to come?
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From: Dundee, IL
2005 Corvette, 2002 MB C230 Coupe
That is a nice way to put it! Have any of you heard of the sunroof being intermittent? Mine wouldn't work all winter and then recently it started working were it would open about 3 inches at a time, and now it works perfect. I am wondering if it is a bad switch?
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From: Westwood, NJ
2004 Civic Si. FWD for the Win!
I used both the lube on the tracks and the Wurth stick recently. Both worked well.
Of course, my car should be finished today at the dealer, for about $950 or so. Anyone want to guess what was the principle component of that bill is?
Note to self: never buy the first year of any car or new component of said car.
Of course, my car should be finished today at the dealer, for about $950 or so. Anyone want to guess what was the principle component of that bill is?
Note to self: never buy the first year of any car or new component of said car.
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From: Pasadena, CA
2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
I used both the lube on the tracks and the Wurth stick recently. Both worked well.
Of course, my car should be finished today at the dealer, for about $950 or so. Anyone want to guess what was the principle component of that bill is?
Note to self: never buy the first year of any car or new component of said car.
Of course, my car should be finished today at the dealer, for about $950 or so. Anyone want to guess what was the principle component of that bill is?
Note to self: never buy the first year of any car or new component of said car.
I'll keep the M111. Even though I sealed my Sunroof shut.
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1959 220S / 1979 230 G / 2002 A210 AMG / 2003 C320 SC / 2004.5 C320 SS / 2005 ML350 SE / 2008 smart
Another useful and informative thread.
Will definitely subscibe to this one, to keep as a handy reference.
thanks govertime !
Carlos
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1979 230 G-Wagen
2003 C320 Sports Coupé
2004 A210 EVO AMG
2004.5 C320 Sports Sedan
2005 ML350 Special Edition
Will definitely subscibe to this one, to keep as a handy reference.
thanks govertime !
Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com
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2003 C320 Sports Coupé
2004 A210 EVO AMG
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2002 C230 Sports Coupe
Pano-roof problems, and yes i searched.
before i get a thousand people telling me to search the site let me say that i did.
My sunroof wont close, it keeps make a terrible loud noise, like a jackhammer, when i try to get it down. It goes backwards to some extent but when i use the one touch it wont go all the way back.
From the search that i did im pretty sure that what i need is some kind of cable guide or something. the part is a few dollars and takes half an hour to install but nowhere were the steps to the installaiton included. If anyone has done this please, please, please post the steps. It's raining and even though nothing gets into my car its still brings me anxiety.
Thanks in advance.
My sunroof wont close, it keeps make a terrible loud noise, like a jackhammer, when i try to get it down. It goes backwards to some extent but when i use the one touch it wont go all the way back.
From the search that i did im pretty sure that what i need is some kind of cable guide or something. the part is a few dollars and takes half an hour to install but nowhere were the steps to the installaiton included. If anyone has done this please, please, please post the steps. It's raining and even though nothing gets into my car its still brings me anxiety.
Thanks in advance.
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2002 C230 Sports Coupe
It says in the manual that i need to synchronize after i close it manually but doesnt say exactly how to manually close it. if i just need to push it myself then that doesnt work because my drivers side wont go down even when i put a lot of weight behind it. the passenger side goes down but i dont keep it that way because not only do i look like a lopsided idiot i dont see how that could be good for the roof.
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2002 C230 Sports Coupe
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2002 C230 Sports Coupe
Unfortunately manually closing my roof didn't work. The key turned the motor but the something kept slipping. After about 10 rotations the roof moved about half a millimeter and i could here something slipping making the same sound that was made when i pressed the button, just not as much since i couldn't spin it nearly as fast. Has anyone had this happen to them???
