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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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Angry Same problem here

I hear you Matt, I had exactly the same part break on me while driving. I ended up buying both deflectors and replacing them myself, both deflectors came up to about $150.00

Extended warranty sucks.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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If you have '03 with only 36k...I assume you bought in '02 and are just barely now out of the original MB factory warranty?? Otherwise your extended warranty even shouldn't be an issue at this point??
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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panoramic roof fit

I have an '03 C230 coupe w/ a panoramic roof. In the closed position, the deflector panel doesn't rest flush w/ the roof panel. The right trailing edge of the deflector is ok, but the left edge sits up about 1/4". The roof works properely, and there aren't leaks. I think I hear a little bit of wind noise, but it might just be in my head. I'm due for service "B" in 2k, so I'll let the dealer take a swing at it. Meantime, has anyone else seen this?
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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Come on, folks. I thought you all were supposed to be helpful when it comes to car problems, not just for talking about mods. Except for Vadim I haven't heard from anyone. It's a little discouraging to me.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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You are mistaken.

If you want technical information on the W203 there is a better forum to visit, as some of the more technically inclined members post more on other forums. In fact there is a thread on another forum dedicated to panoramic roof problems. Don't ask me for the name of the forum, that is against the rules of this site.

This forum seems to focus on: OEM mods, white/HID lights, rims, and warranty repairs.

Anything outside of that and you are SOL.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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Without giving me the name of the site (and violating rules), would you be willing and able to suggest any search terms for Google what would increase my chances of finding this other site? Thanks.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Without giving me the name of the site (and violating rules), would you be willing and able to suggest any search terms for Google what would increase my chances of finding this other site? Thanks.
PM drexappeal, he's a mod and will beable to direct you or not.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Hi Folks, Newbie here!

I have a 2001 C230K Panorama. I seem to have a bit of a problem with my Pano roof in that when i try to open or close it, it moves very slowly and then eventually stops... like its run out of juice! If i wait a minute or so and try again it moves a bit more then dies again.
Anyone ever come across this before? any suggestions?

Thanks
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Have you tried changing the batteries? I think it uses 8 AA's.

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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Have you tried changing the batteries? I think it uses 8 AA's.

Dude don't lie to him there's two lithium 9-volts man. You should take them in to your dealer, they're only $300 ea
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Probably needs a little lubrication on the sliding rails. The motor runs a bit, then stalls because it is overloaded. You might look in the owners manual for specific advice on which grease to use. I would use lanolin on it. I get my lanolin here:

http://store.flexbar.com/merchant2/m...e=MT-Lano-Lube
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Closing a Stuck Pano Roof

This DIY may need some editing for clarity. Feel free to make comments. I am in no way responsible for you following any advice or instruction contained in this post.

Here is some info on fixing a inevitable Panoramic Roof problem. My roof refused to close, even when using the supplied MBZ tool.



I got her stuck about an inch from being fully closed. This meant, I constantly got wind noise while driving, lots of interior dust, and worse a lack of security because the roof was open 24-7. Given that California's rainy season is here, I had to do something.

Please note, I did not want to remove the headliner, just have enought room to close the Pano roof. To get the headliner clearance to work, here is what to do:

Remove the sun visors.

Remove the rear view mirror. Take the mirror, and pull down on one side. Just pop it off. Its okay it'll come down. At the base, there is a mount with three torx screws that must come off.

Remove the black plastic Teleaid Box. This will just snap off by gently pulling away from the windshield.

Below is the picture with instructions for removing the lighting panel.




Once the light cover is off, this is what you see. Notice that the motor has a cover that is being pushed down. This kept the gears from engaging. Origionally, i thought it was a motor issue, unfortunately it was in the tubes. In the center of this motor cover is an Allen Head opening. By turning this, you should be able to get the roof open/closed. But in my case, the guide tube need A LOT more torque.





The guide tube has a stiff gear. I attempted to use the MBZ provided tool to close the window, but I couldn't get any torque to the gears with that flimsy piece. So, it was stripping the guide tube gear. Funny how the easy to replace piece has the toughest metal, and the hard to replace guide tube gear is a softer metal.




Here is how to close that POS



This DIY may need some editing for clarity. Feel free to make comments. I am in no way responsible for you following any advice or instruction contained in this post.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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nice write-up man!

here goes the money shot...



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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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i wish i had a pano roof
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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ahaha E,

your cars been going thru alot of minor problems lately. and you tend to solve them and post them up.

and i'd probably come back to this thread soon enough. so props to you!
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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Thanks Advan;

You live in NY, so I think you have a different type of driving. I actually did the same drive that I did earlier today. And while REALLY trying to drive in a gas conserving mode, I could only get 32.7 mpg. WTF?

I still have to deal with a Pogoing Driver's side door lock. I'll post that up when I get to it. May sound silly, but I know I have to take down the doors air bag. Pardon me for being a little scared of that airbag going BOOM in my face. I'm single right now, and I needs my face.

I just wish I could leave well enough alone. Now that the engine runs to performance, I have a new laundry list of what I want to do. Maybe if I click my heels three times I'll get this car bug out of me....

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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panoramic roof rear shade off track

The front larger shade and glass function perfectly. But the rear shade is off the track and never has really worked since i bought the car. It was broken at the dealership and I told them to fix it before I took the car. Unfortunately, in the excitement of picking up the car when the loan finally went though, I just told them I'd make an appointment for them to fix it. So of course I never did.

SO I just want to do it myself now. Has anybody ever done this? I searched a read.. I know now how to get the console down to work on it but what happens from there? Anybody know part numbers of stuff I might need?


BTW I called the local MB dealer for some tune up stuff. He quoted me $24 / spark plug. I laughed at him. Then he refused to give me the part number so I just told him I was going to buy it elsewhere anyway.
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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It was broken at the dealership and I told them to fix it before I took the car. Unfortunately, in the excitement of picking up the car when the loan finally went though, I just told them I'd make an appointment for them to fix it. So of course I never did........
First off....

Originally Posted by noreaga0221
Anybody know part numbers of stuff I might need?
The part number for the shade is 203-784-00-09 and the part number for the grease that is used is 001-989-50-51
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Newbie Panoramic roof question - not working

Yep my roof isn't working. It's closed, and the shade works. When you push the botton to open, or 'pop-up' you hear a click but no action.

As an aside, I also have a idiot light on for "light sensor"

On my countless searches I found that this idiot light may mean low battery...and was wondering if the roof has a voltage interupt where if there isn't enough juice, it doesn't open.

The car starts a little slow on cranking...but runs fine, and my stereo still pounds with no dimming of interior lights.

Any ideas would be appreciated. I'm going to pull the battery this weekend and get it tested.

Thanks all

/jc
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Call the 800 # for MB roadside assistance. If there's a problem with the battery, they'll sell you one on the spot and won't charge labor to put it in.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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well i had a similar problem with my sunroof, except it was all out of wack and it wouldn't reset. i took it to the dealer and apparantly they hooked it up to he DAS and couldn't reset the error so they concluded i needed a new motor for $1000...... i took the number 9 fuse out of the trunk panel, put it back in and voila, the roof was reset and works perfectly ever since...try it you never know.

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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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im having some serious sunroof trouble right now... what is the deflector exactly?

the motor seems to be working fine and ive gotten to the point where my sun roof will open just fine... only it doesnt have the automatic open to the two open "configurations." Half open and full open... it just kinda opens by inching backward with each press, stopping immediately if you let go (even if you use the second stage backwards press for automatic open). And when it closes it grinds forward... you literally have to press forward against it while holding the button to get it closed... needless to say i dont really open it alot but whats the point of having a car with a sunroof if you cant enjoy a sunny day with it open.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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This is why a friend who owns a dealership told me years ago that most extended warranties are not worth the paper they are printed on. He says take the money spent on them and bank it for repairs. If you can do that. But one of the largest complaints at the Consumer Protection Agency is with extended warranties. I think they are looking at legislation it in the near future. It is a multibillion dollar industry that pays out very little of that amount. <------ My two cents!
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tremere
im having some serious sunroof trouble right now... what is the deflector exactly?

the motor seems to be working fine and ive gotten to the point where my sun roof will open just fine... only it doesnt have the automatic open to the two open "configurations." Half open and full open... it just kinda opens by inching backward with each press, stopping immediately if you let go (even if you use the second stage backwards press for automatic open). And when it closes it grinds forward... you literally have to press forward against it while holding the button to get it closed... needless to say i dont really open it alot but whats the point of having a car with a sunroof if you cant enjoy a sunny day with it open.
Sounds exactly like the problem I had, I just resetted it. Have your key in the "On" position in ignition and just hold down the button on your sunroof as if you are tilting it open...press all the way down on the button...hold for about 10-15 seconds? Then turn off ignition...and turn it back on...give it a try...hope this helps.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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i have the coupe and the rear part of the sunroof the shade wont close but the front will. fuse, motor or what else could it be?
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