.. also, save some money for new tires as well.
Why does the Kompressor not allow me to this?
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Why does the Kompressor not allow me to do this?
Ok please no flames...
I went to Floyd Bennet field today, a huge open field (ex military base) to learn my car better. It was raining out but regardless I tried to do burn outs. My friend suggested that I:
Go in Reverse, gas up until 20 mph, then quickly change to Drive and floor the gas pedal.... He has a fast Maxima and this is how he burns out.
This is what happend;
As soon as I switched to Drive (w/o braking, just switched from R to D), the car kept going in reverse anyway! Even if I gas'd up it would just go faster in Reverse until I came to a complete stop, then there would be a jerk and the car would be in D mode. Why did this happen? I did this with ESP off & ESP on, W mode & S mode. Someone explain.
I went to Floyd Bennet field today, a huge open field (ex military base) to learn my car better. It was raining out but regardless I tried to do burn outs. My friend suggested that I:
Go in Reverse, gas up until 20 mph, then quickly change to Drive and floor the gas pedal.... He has a fast Maxima and this is how he burns out.
This is what happend;
As soon as I switched to Drive (w/o braking, just switched from R to D), the car kept going in reverse anyway! Even if I gas'd up it would just go faster in Reverse until I came to a complete stop, then there would be a jerk and the car would be in D mode. Why did this happen? I did this with ESP off & ESP on, W mode & S mode. Someone explain.
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Re: Why does the Kompressor not allow me to this?
Originally posted by 02Impressor
As soon as I switched to Drive (w/o braking, just switched from R to D), the car kept going in reverse anyway! Even if I gas'd up it would just go faster in Reverse until I came to a complete stop, then there would be a jerk and the car would be in D mode. Why did this happen? I did this with ESP off & ESP on, W mode & S mode. Someone explain.
As soon as I switched to Drive (w/o braking, just switched from R to D), the car kept going in reverse anyway! Even if I gas'd up it would just go faster in Reverse until I came to a complete stop, then there would be a jerk and the car would be in D mode. Why did this happen? I did this with ESP off & ESP on, W mode & S mode. Someone explain.
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Re: Re: Why does the Kompressor not allow me to this?
Originally posted by viper
I hope you saved up for transmission repair. Driving like this will cost you some money very soon.
I hope you saved up for transmission repair. Driving like this will cost you some money very soon.
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Re: Re: Re: Why does the Kompressor not allow me to this?
Originally posted by 02Impressor
Interesting theory, yet you did not answer my question.
Interesting theory, yet you did not answer my question.
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Man, 2k kms and I am still not willing to drop the clutch with ESP off to see if I can smoke the tires.
Can't you just rev the engine in drive with the parking brake on, or even holding the brake pedal and just smoke the tires? or is the electronics still smart enough to keep you from doing this in an automatic? Yes this would still be bad for the mechanical parts, but gotta be better than slamming from reverse into drive!
02Impressor, I used to have a Dodge Ram pickup with a slant 6 and a practically bulletproof transmission. I reversed as fast as it would go in snow and threw it into drive, never heard such a bad sound as that before, and ended up in a spin and in a snow bank. I was 17, it was dumb, I learned my lesson on a truck that most likely can handle some abuse... I wouldn't be trying it on a brand new MB.
Can't you just rev the engine in drive with the parking brake on, or even holding the brake pedal and just smoke the tires? or is the electronics still smart enough to keep you from doing this in an automatic? Yes this would still be bad for the mechanical parts, but gotta be better than slamming from reverse into drive!
02Impressor, I used to have a Dodge Ram pickup with a slant 6 and a practically bulletproof transmission. I reversed as fast as it would go in snow and threw it into drive, never heard such a bad sound as that before, and ended up in a spin and in a snow bank. I was 17, it was dumb, I learned my lesson on a truck that most likely can handle some abuse... I wouldn't be trying it on a brand new MB.
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Dude................you got to be kidding........right?
If you could see the temperature increase in your tranny when you do a hard brake/gas pedal on the floor start you would never, EVER do it again.
Keep this up and you'll be up with Buellwinkle in getting loaner cars from your dealer.........and..........abuse is not covered by your warranty nor should it be.
You want to do a burnout...........get a bottle of beach..........pour some out on the street. Back your car over the wet spot. Put tranny back into drive and hit it. Watch the smoke..........than please tell me what's the point.
If you could see the temperature increase in your tranny when you do a hard brake/gas pedal on the floor start you would never, EVER do it again.
Keep this up and you'll be up with Buellwinkle in getting loaner cars from your dealer.........and..........abuse is not covered by your warranty nor should it be.
You want to do a burnout...........get a bottle of beach..........pour some out on the street. Back your car over the wet spot. Put tranny back into drive and hit it. Watch the smoke..........than please tell me what's the point.
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You must be going at least 50 mph for this to work, and when you drop it in to drive, all I can say is its cooooooooool, rock on
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I know you asked for no flames, but I got to say thats the stupidest thing I've heard this week. If a neutral drop is bad for a tranny, I can imagine how bad it is to do a reverse drop!
But, to propose an answer to your question, it probably has a safeguard in the transmission electronics that prevents crap like that.
But, to propose an answer to your question, it probably has a safeguard in the transmission electronics that prevents crap like that.
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What the car did by not going into drive might be the only thing that saves your transmission. The electronics probably prevented it from going into drive. So if you're lucky, it didn't do any damage at all. But I would think it would still do something. Just don't do that again.
A question for those of you with automatics? Can you just hold the brake and give it gas. I know there is something built in that doesn't give it gas if you're on the brake, so you can't drag the brake like the old folks do. But it doesn't seem to do it in certain situations. My 6-speed even does it if I'm trying to clean the rotors by dragging the brake a little. (Had some bad wheel cleaner that looked terrible for the rotors.)
Anybody experience this while trying to do burnouts?
A question for those of you with automatics? Can you just hold the brake and give it gas. I know there is something built in that doesn't give it gas if you're on the brake, so you can't drag the brake like the old folks do. But it doesn't seem to do it in certain situations. My 6-speed even does it if I'm trying to clean the rotors by dragging the brake a little. (Had some bad wheel cleaner that looked terrible for the rotors.)
Anybody experience this while trying to do burnouts?
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Reverse transmission drop???!!!!!!?!?!? Holy SHI*!!!!! And you expect no flames?????? Come on man, this is the Mercedes Forum, not the Hyundai Elantra Forum. Treat the car with a little more common sense, thats just plain dumb in my book.
Reverse transmission drop???!!!!!!?!?!? Holy SHI*!!!!! And you expect no flames?????? Come on man, this is the Mercedes Forum, not the Hyundai Elantra Forum. Treat the car with a little more common sense, thats just plain dumb in my book.
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i would fuc*en panic if i was going 20mph and put the car in D.
I have an auto and do burn outs very easy just hold the brake down and press on the gas, till the tires spin. u dont even need to floor it unless u want it to go for a while.
This way is no where near as dangerous as what you tried.
I have an auto and do burn outs very easy just hold the brake down and press on the gas, till the tires spin. u dont even need to floor it unless u want it to go for a while.
This way is no where near as dangerous as what you tried.
back in my Camaro days...
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Damn this thread has flame bait written all over it...
Anyway, I figured I had to try it atleast once. I didn't think that one time would do anything critical to the tranny or anything else. It wasn't the right thing to do but hey I had to see what my car was all about, right? I simulated a spin out as well, just in case, God forbid I'm ever in that situation, so I don't completely freak out when car is out of control.
Point is, I don't do stupid **** like that on a daily basis. Heck, I've only had the car for about 5 months and still have under 3000 miles on it. The car doesn't get abused despite your opinions.
Anyway, I figured I had to try it atleast once. I didn't think that one time would do anything critical to the tranny or anything else. It wasn't the right thing to do but hey I had to see what my car was all about, right? I simulated a spin out as well, just in case, God forbid I'm ever in that situation, so I don't completely freak out when car is out of control.
Point is, I don't do stupid **** like that on a daily basis. Heck, I've only had the car for about 5 months and still have under 3000 miles on it. The car doesn't get abused despite your opinions.
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I hope you saved up for transmission repair. Driving like this will cost you some money very soon.
Can't you just rev the engine in drive with the parking brake on, or even holding the brake pedal and just smoke the tires? or is the electronics still smart enough to keep you from doing this in an automatic? Yes this would still be bad for the mechanical parts, but gotta be better than slamming from reverse into drive!
The electronics probably prevented it from going into drive. So if you're lucky, it didn't do any damage at all.
02Impressor, I used to have a Dodge Ram pickup with a slant 6 and a practically bulletproof transmission. I reversed as fast as it would go in snow and threw it into drive, never heard such a bad sound as that before, and ended up in a spin and in a snow bank. I was 17, it was dumb, I learned my lesson on a truck that most likely can handle some abuse... I wouldn't be trying it on a brand new MB.
DUDE, are you crazy? I would never do this in any car.
You want to do a burnout...........get a bottle of beach..........pour some out on the street. Back your car over the wet spot. Put tranny back into drive and hit it. Watch the smoke..........than please tell me what's the point.
You must be going at least 50 mph for this to work, and when you drop it in to drive, all I can say is its cooooooooool, rock on
I know you asked for no flames, but I got to say thats the stupidest thing I've heard this week. If a neutral drop is bad for a tranny, I can imagine how bad it is to do a reverse drop!
i would fuc*en panic if i was going 20mph and put the car in D.
This car to me seems like it’s mostly computer controlled and can virtually get itself out of situations where the driver would panic. He asked a question and you flamed him. Continue your daily commuting from point a to point b and enjoy every moment of it because you are fools of the highest degree.
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I like the idea of having a nice save place to 'play' with your new car. It's good to know limitiations of both the car and the driver and the combination of the two. Distructive experimentation is ill adviced at any level. Your car cost you at least 26K if not in the low 30's. You must have money to burn or expect to own the car for a limited time, when it then becomes some innocent buyers problem, and there goes that buyers impression of MB quality and service. With this type of irresponsibility we will all be sporting a shinny new sticker on the dash warning not to perform such an act. If your friend drives his Maxima into a brick wall at 30 mph to test how to best position yourself for the airbag, I have to ask, will you follow him in the Mercedes?
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Originally posted by Matt230K
A question for those of you with automatics? Can you just hold the brake and give it gas. I know there is something built in that doesn't give it gas if you're on the brake, so you can't drag the brake like the old folks do. But it doesn't seem to do it in certain situations. My 6-speed even does it if I'm trying to clean the rotors by dragging the brake a little. (Had some bad wheel cleaner that looked terrible for the rotors.)
A question for those of you with automatics? Can you just hold the brake and give it gas. I know there is something built in that doesn't give it gas if you're on the brake, so you can't drag the brake like the old folks do. But it doesn't seem to do it in certain situations. My 6-speed even does it if I'm trying to clean the rotors by dragging the brake a little. (Had some bad wheel cleaner that looked terrible for the rotors.)
Yes fortunately the electronics are smart enough to know to shift into a gear only when the car is at the proper speed and going in the correct direction. Shifting from reverse to drive without stopping will cook the torque converter!
I'm not so sure that the "I want to find the limits of my car" argument holds true. There are far better ways of simulating an evasive maneuver than to try to do a burnout by changing from reverse to drive (which is totally unrealistic). Anyone who manages to defeat ESP in a normal driving condition is probably going far too fast for the conditions.
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really? with an auto you can't hold the brake and give gas? funny, then could somebody please tell me why i was able to do that (didn't rev past 1500, but still wanted to know if it would work)? i know the tranny will keep you from flooring it coming out of reverse into drive. Easy to check too. pull out of a parking space in reverse, and just before it stops (low speed, like 3 mph or less), put in drive, throttle will not engage until reverse motion has stopped.
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speaking of changing gears in an automatic without stopping, is it safe to switch into neutral from drive and vice-versa while driving an automatic? it may be a naive question as torque converter mechanics is something i know little about. however, it'd be nice to know if i can.
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speaking of changing gears in an automatic without stopping, is it safe to switch into neutral from drive and vice-versa while driving an automatic? it may be a naive question as torque converter mechanics is something i know little about. however, it'd be nice to know if i can.
speaking of changing gears in an automatic without stopping, is it safe to switch into neutral from drive and vice-versa while driving an automatic? it may be a naive question as torque converter mechanics is something i know little about. however, it'd be nice to know if i can.
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Re: Why does the Kompressor not allow me to do this?
Originally posted by 02Impressor
As soon as I switched to Drive (w/o braking, just switched from R to D), the car kept going in reverse anyway! Even if I gas'd up it would just go faster in Reverse until I came to a complete stop, then there would be a jerk and the car would be in D mode. Why did this happen? I did this with ESP off & ESP on, W mode & S mode. Someone explain.
As soon as I switched to Drive (w/o braking, just switched from R to D), the car kept going in reverse anyway! Even if I gas'd up it would just go faster in Reverse until I came to a complete stop, then there would be a jerk and the car would be in D mode. Why did this happen? I did this with ESP off & ESP on, W mode & S mode. Someone explain.
