Tangerine

Does anyone know how I go about removing the rear seats? My e-brake is having issues and I read that I should grease the links which are located below the rear seats.

Searched but nothing.

TIA

Glyn M Ruck

Just pull the lower seat out - There is a central cover you need to remove for access to the brake mechanism which is under a felt silencing pad. Don't fiddle with the two round covers. They are the fuel pump & your two fuel sensors in the dual fuel tanks.

shivi1345

how much weight does this save?

Glyn M Ruck

HA HA - not sure !!!

BlackC280

Glyn, You seem to have all types of Diagrams, etc. on how to fix, remove, replace things on these cars! Each thread that asks how to change, remove, or fix things your always there with a diagram. At least since I joined this forum! Good Job! I'm impressed!

Tangerine

Glyn is the man, valued asset. Thanks a lot, you are a lifesaver.

Glyn M Ruck

Thanks - It's a pleasure. I collect them from all over the place but many come from the forum - It's just that they are hell to find. I spent a long while reading before I joined. Many are provided by great & helpful members like splinter.

I just think a picture paints a thousand words.

Glyn M Ruck

Trouble is my filing system sucks - Ha! found it - here's the rest

shivi1345

Tangerine......

lemme know how much those things weigh when you take em out plz lol

BF_JC230

I have put whole bunch on here too regarding this...If I learned anything it is that the good Plastics Engineers got the cover wrong...It is ABS/PC and it should be PP...The snaps break on these covers! I bought four spares to have incase one fails...All four of mine OEM are cracked, but are still holding.

Good luck!
Easy job!
Jake

bumpnzx3

the seat bottom doesn't weight much of anything. you would be better off dropping a duece for weight savings/performance gain. the seat back doesn't weigh a lot either, but more than the bottom. just a wild guess- but i would say less than 25# total for both the back and bottom.

appnano

it looks not easy.

Glyn M Ruck

+1

Glyn M Ruck

Nah - it's easy - friend of mine achieved it and he's a paraplegic with spanners.

shivi1345

lol damn


those pics/diagrams look complicated too lol

Glyn M Ruck

Mercedes execution is always a little more complex.

BOY-6

i found a link

Pages 12 & 13 deal with the rear seat and then goes on to show the C pillar removal etc...

http://www.buellwinkle.com/Comand/CO...oval%20WIS.pdf

Cintoman

Glyn, I too do the same thing, and save any DIY pics I find onto my computer. I find more of an amazement in the engineering that goes into our cars every time I see one of our cars taken apart. For instance, your second picture with the tan/grey interior and the seat bottom removed. Just check out the little access panels to get at everything. All nice and neat, and well placed. Our backseat passengers have no idea what they are sitting on.

With the few mods I've done on my car, I've always taken pictures to document my process/progress. Also to help me put things back together I've posted quite a few things here, which I hope has been helpful to some. Most of my pics show more of the "what's behind this" areas. Most recently....my follow up to e1000's rear view mirror light replacement. e1000 posted the DIY pics, then I followed up with the "hey...look-what's-actually-inside-our-rear-view-mirror" pics.

And...as mentioned above, Glyn, you're an amazing asset to this forum!

Cintoman

Glyn M Ruck

Yes - the Dual tank sensing & pump arrangement you are sitting on is pretty sophisticated. If it came from the big 3 it would have a cap, a fill pipe & a plastic tank with a cork float level sensor - not this.

https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...k-function.pdf

Some models have some of the electronics under the seat as well although mostly under the trunk floor.

Cintoman

Jake, are you talking about the 4 bolt covers you remove to expose the bolts to take out the rear seat? If so, yes, I agree...they do crack. When installing my illuminated sills, I removed the seat, and managed to crack 2 or 3 of these. They still surprisingly hold, so I never got around to buying replacements.

Cintoman

alpinweiss

BMW also uses a similar system on the 3-Series. The quasi-dual fuel tank set-up is supposed to more evenly balance the fuel weight from side to side. I am not sure if BMW or Mercedes had the design first.

The removable access plates under the back seat are a great design. You can remove/replace the fuel pump, sending unit, or screen easily. Most German cars have this feature. In comparison, many Detroit or Japanese brands will make you remove the fuel tank for this type of service.

cybero

can you please explain how did you remove the 4 plastic covers?

BF_JC230

Screwdriver in side between carpet and clip, twist and pop off. The inner clips will most likely break - you might be able to clip them back on - or replace.