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Old 03-18-2009, 01:57 AM
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Wheel fitment 19x8.5

Hi, I have been searching the forum trying to find the answer I'm looking for, but as yet, with no such luck.
I am tryiug to fit 19x8.5 and 19x9 brabus replicas to my merc but I'm having a couple of problems.
Number 1. whilst out the front on my laptop searching MB forum, my 4 y.o. junior mechanic thought he'd take it apon himself to drop the jack with a wheel sitting loosly in the wheel arch. After a lenghtly talk about danger and how lucky he was not to have hurt himself, we then moved onto the damage to the front guard (fender) i now have!
but the real reason I'm on here today is because I bought these wheels from ebay, the seller had tryed to fit them to his w209 CLK but they wouldn't fit.
Looking back, I should have posted this question before buying them, but I saw that quite alot of people run 19x8.5 and 19x9" currently, so I took the punt.
The rims have an offset of 35, I currently have 18x8's with a 35mm offset and 5 mm spacers on the front, but the new ones don't fit.
The rears are tight, but I'm pretty sure if they rub I can pull the liners out of the wheel arch's, but the front's wont go on. Even with the 5 mm spacers they still touch the H&R coilovers (which are almost to the lowest setting).
As an idiot taking a guess, I'd say 10mm spacers might do the trick on the front but will they then be touching the front guards (or fenders, for the americans)????
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Has anyone been in the same situation with simmilar sized wheels and H&R coilovers?
Any help would be appreciated. Also I checked with the local wheel place who said they wouldnt fit in the rear, esspecially with 265/35/19 inch rubber, but, they also said they don't really work on Mercs so they might be wrong.

Please, please help, lol.

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I'm no expert but 265/35/19's on the 19x9 wheels? Isn't that kind of wide? What size tire is on your 19x8.5? Do you know if it's the rim that's touching the coil over or the tire? I prob won't be the one to give you the answer your looking for but I find that odd. Specially on the aftermarket wheel thread, almost eveyone seems to be running those sizes 18x8.5 & 18x9 or 19x8.5 & 19x9.5. There are people running 19x10 even!

I just picked up set of wheels (non-staggered) 19x9 all around with 245/35/19 tires and they fit fine. Then Again I don't have the sport model MB. It's a C280 Luxury and it's not yet lowered.
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I'm no expert but 265/35/19's on the 19x9 wheels? Isn't that kind of wide? What size tire is on your 19x8.5? Do you know if it's the rim that's touching the coil over or the tire? I prob won't be the one to give you the answer your looking for but I find that odd. Specially on the aftermarket wheel thread, almost eveyone seems to be running those sizes 18x8.5 & 18x9 or 19x8.5 & 19x9.5. There are people running 19x10 even!

I just picked up set of wheels (non-staggered) 19x9 all around with 245/35/19 tires and they fit fine. Then Again I don't have the sport model MB. It's a C280 Luxury and it's not yet lowered.

Hi, Thanks for your reply. The coil is touching the tire, the wheel can't be bolted on at the moment, it looks like about a 10mm plus gap.
The front tyres are 245/35/19.

Also I've misquoted the rears earlier, they are 265/30/19 and rear wheels are 19x9.5

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The problem is your front tire is too wide, you need a 225/35/19
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Running 245 is POSSIBLE with the w203, but you cant run 245 on a w203 with Coilovers. Most folks who run coilovers will have ET 27 or 28 up front on an 8.5" wheel. If you are trying to run 245 with ET 25, you MIGHT be able to clear the coilovers, but you would have to raise the car a lot and even in that case, I am sure you will rub the severely fender linings when turning lock to lock...
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I had the assumption that it was your tire that was too wide. Try 235/35/19 or as Jnolte suggested 225/35/19. But with both tire sizes you'll be streching the side wall of the tire. Also as TruTaing mentioned 245 is possible on a W203 but your offset changes. In my case my offset is 35 for all 4 wheels with 245 tires. But again as I mentioned I don't have a sport model MB.
I plan to upgrade brake calipers to the factory AMG. When I cross that bridge I'm going to have to get new wheels dropping to 19x8.5 fronts.
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225/235 isn't a stretch on a 8.5 wide wheel at all. He needs more clearance because of his coilovers, I would try the 225 or 235 and see if you need the spacer or not.
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Originally Posted by jnolte
225/235 isn't a stretch on a 8.5 wide wheel at all. He needs more clearance because of his coilovers, I would try the 225 or 235 and see if you need the spacer or not.
my badd, I guess what I was trying to say was. 225 or 235 will some strech compared to the 245's he's got on. right now my 245 have no strecth.
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Id stick to 225 up front if you have fat tire walls.... 235 is possible w/ toyo t1rs and coilovers... Ya gotta do it JUST right.

Black280, et33 or 34 is what you need up front w/ an 8.5" wide wheel I believe. There are wheels that have these offsets + clear big brakes (not coilovers though), so you can run 245 up front still - just gotta do everything JUST right

Ask splinter :x
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Originally Posted by TruTaing
Id stick to 225 up front if you have fat tire walls.... 235 is possible w/ toyo t1rs and coilovers... Ya gotta do it JUST right.

Black280, et33 or 34 is what you need up front w/ an 8.5" wide wheel I believe. There are wheels that have these offsets + clear big brakes (not coilovers though), so you can run 245 up front still - just gotta do everything JUST right

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I already have the wheels, they're 19x9 with 35 offset. the tires on now are 245/35/19. slapped them on w/o lowering the car and the wheels or tires don't rub. I might switch out to 235/35 tires tho.
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Originally Posted by TruTaing
Running 245 is POSSIBLE with the w203, but you cant run 245 on a w203 with Coilovers. Most folks who run coilovers will have ET 27 or 28 up front on an 8.5" wheel. If you are trying to run 245 with ET 25, you MIGHT be able to clear the coilovers, but you would have to raise the car a lot and even in that case, I am sure you will rub the severely fender linings when turning lock to lock...
Thanks for that, I think I am following. If i've understood, they might fit with a 10mm spacer, if its raised up, even then its a big might? But, the wheel width itself and the coilover are compatible with a spacer? I'm happy to change tyres, but I do want to be 100% sure first that the wheels themselves will fit, and keeping the same ride height.

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Damon,

I am pretty sure you can clear the coilovers w/ that low of an offset. I am pretty certain that you will NOT clear the fender linings when you turn the steering wheel from lock to lock.

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