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Last edited by LILBENZ230; Feb 27, 2010 at 08:55 AM.
Karo, that is some ugly mileage, LOL.
Last edited by johnand; Feb 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM.
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Now that you mention it, I did spend just 80 or so miles on the highway with the 2007. The average of 22 it was giving me might have been brought down by the city driving while gettingto the freeway where it was getting about 14mpg. I don't think it's too far off though as Adidas said he averages about 22.5 overall with his 2006 6mt.
Last edited by LILBENZ230; Feb 27, 2010 at 10:23 AM.
Ok, here you go. The 3.5L can be efficient on long runs but it sucks down gas (relatively) once you start using your right foot. Nothing like an AMG but definitely can be more thirsty than the supercharged 1.8. This was on a run back from Vegas. I've done better when I didn't have my wheels and going over completely flat land up between indiana and chicago, I was coming up on 500 miles on a tank of gas and HAD to stop because my bladder was about to explode.
Last edited by e1000; Feb 27, 2010 at 11:28 AM.
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Now that you mention it, I did spend just 80 or so miles on the highway with the 2007. The average of 22 it was giving me might have been brought down by the city driving while gettingto the freeway where it was getting about 14mpg. I don't think it's too far off though as Adidas said he averages about 22.5 overall with his 2006 6mt.
I do love my car, and it is pretty close to perfect for me. Frankly, with my heavily trafficked commute, the 2.5L has more than enough power. But, if I had to do it all over again though, I would chose an 07 C350 6MT.
If you get 20 and above in city driving then that's pretty good.
Would a supercharger or a turbo help in efficiency? I heard it does. Can anyone please confirm this?

This is why a low capacity 4 will give good economy in town piddling around where a larger six will loose out. However - load the car & go on a high speed cruise & the six will win every time. Taking this argument to the extreme with a modern, efficient engine that breathes well & the ideal is to try & run a larger engine as close to stoichiometric AF ratio or leaner at constant RPM via a CVT. The 7G tries to do this. An engine like the 272 - 350 will give huge economy leaned out & running at a constant 2800 to 3000RPM - You can't really do this with the 271 without flat spots & driveability problems. It needs more fuel to achieve smooth running & high output.
This is well illustrated in the new Prius where Toyota have taken the engine size to 1800cc from 1500 to achieve better performance without giving up economy & emissions.
The Prius is, however, a dumb vehicle with all it's complexity. Diesel engines don't suffer these pumping losses at part fuel input & a little diesel Citroen will run rings around a Prius from a performance perspective while achieving 70 mpg. I'd rather have the Citroen thanks & I don't particularly like French cars.
This is also why I object to legislators trying to impose engine capacity restrictions on OEMS - rather tell them max emissions per mile or whatever will be tolerated & let the developers achieve it as they wish. I'll bet they will do this for the average family saloon with a six cylinder, approx square, petrol engine with one small turbo of 2 to 3 litres running at close to constant RPM via a CVT or 7 or 8 speed auto.
If the turbo Diesotto can be built economically then you can have the best of both worlds & possibly reduce capacity a little over a pure spark ignited engine. Further development of Atkinson cycle engines is also possible but this would require OEMs to raise capacity to achieve a specific output.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Feb 27, 2010 at 08:21 PM.







