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Late models w203. Still suffers from earlier model reliability issues?

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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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Late models w203. Still suffers from earlier model reliability issues?

Hi there. I'm just wondering if the w203 runout year models, 2006, are a good buy quality wise. There's a c200k with AMG options for a good price at a local dealer. No Merc warranty though. I tried the w204 but for my budget, I really didn't like the classic model at all interior wise and my budget won't stretch to an elegance or aventgard w204.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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Post facelift w203 are good quality compared to prefacelift models. 05+ models is what many members on here would suggest.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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05+ will serve you well.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 03:22 AM
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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The only notorious issue is the CPS(camshaft position sensor).
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by OneOfaKindTrini
The only notorious issue is the CPS(camshaft position sensor).
actually it is a camshaft solenoid (officially it is called 'magnet'), the CPS is not the item leaking and is in a different place in the motor
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Late 2002 onward were fine. My 2003 has had 2 X castor bushes under warranty (known problem), one 5 cent tranny plug crush washer to stop a very slight fluid weep & one RHS stop lamp globe. Otherwise servicing to the book, brake pads & tyres.

In fairness the C240 power train was proven in previous models.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Boom vang
actually it is a camshaft solenoid (officially it is called 'magnet'), the CPS is not the item leaking and is in a different place in the motor
Oh, well just call it P0012/P0015. That's the only problem that most of us have expirienced.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Trini and Boom Vang are talking about two separate issues.

Trini is referring to the timing over retarded problem in the M272 cars cause by camshaft position sensors.
Boom vang is referring to the leaking cam magnets on the front of the M271 engine.
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Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
Trini and Boom Vang are talking about two separate issues.

Trini is referring to the timing over retarded problem in the M272 cars cause by camshaft position sensors.
Boom vang is referring to the leaking cam magnets on the front of the M271 engine.
I went after this issue because the OP did say 2006. I just noticed he's not North America.
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Both are valid issues, I was just clarifying.
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Originally Posted by OneOfaKindTrini
I went after this issue because the OP did say 2006. I just noticed he's not North America.
the M271 engine continued life outside North America beyond 2005 in models beyond the C class ( SLK, CLK, E) and will again return in 2012 on our shores as a turbo'd engine in both the C204 coupe and sedan as the base engine.

Since he was mentioning the 200K I wanted to clarify that he was looking at the correct part. Unfortunately someone started calling the solenoids as cam sensors and this can be a bit confusing to those not in the know
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Originally Posted by Boom vang
Since he was mentioning the 200K I wanted to clarify that he was looking at the correct part. Unfortunately someone started calling the solenoids as cam sensors and this can be a bit confusing to those not in the know

As I stated my valid issue, I brought that problem into the light as I was reffering to the late model W203's on U.S. shores, I went after the problem that most of us with the M272 suffered from.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 01:47 AM
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2005^ is up fine. No worries.

What is the CPS problem that you guys are mentioning and how could you tell if its affecting your car.
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You get a check engine light. You just have to see what the code tells you (right/left/exhaust/intake)

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Originally Posted by carbonfiberwhor
2005^ is up fine. No worries.

What is the CPS problem that you guys are mentioning and how could you tell if its affecting your car.
its not the CPS itself... its the CPS magnet. I'll look for the thread
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Read this thread Johnand figured it out that it wasnt the CPS but the magnet.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ank-1-a-3.html
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Originally Posted by phister
Read this thread Johnand figured it out that it wasnt the CPS but the magnet.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ank-1-a-3.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY
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Originally Posted by phister
Read this thread Johnand figured it out that it wasnt the CPS but the magnet.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ank-1-a-3.html

Awesome, thanks man.
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