Boom vang

And if you want to know something completely different, a car obviously dear to my heart, the Triumph TR6 was designed by Karmann, though they kept the doors and windscreen from the Michelotti designed TR4.

Unfortunately it was not built at Karmann but by Union paid "British Craftsman" durring troubled times at British Leyland. The inconsistant gaps between the ill fitted panels confirm that the the assembly line workers had a few too many pints durring their breaks. Definately not precision German quality!

sexy

Hmm... I think MB makes both CLK coupes and CLK convertibles, just that the convertible part of a CLK Cabriolet is built by Karmann.

nrod95

I recent ly installed a 2007 C230 instrument cluster on my 2004 C230. Most things work on it except for my windows don't roll up automatically (they roll down just fine). Another issue I am having is that I lost my radio controls on my steering wheel. And the last issue I have with the new Cluster is that my Odometer is blank. Oh yeah, and one more thing, it calls out my speed-tronic. I have no clue what it is talking about. I figure it might have to do with my car being a stick and the cluster may have came from an automatic. If anyone knows where i can get it reprogramed or someway fixed, please let me know. thanks.

rlee02135

any pics of this?

WaveyKat

you have to Ask """SUNMAN"" i will love to do this mod where did u get the cluster from how much and pics please post some

sanf

it takes a lot to sync everything perfectly with your new cluster. but the most important thing is the odometer...its kinda illegal to drive if it doesn't work. good luck with the mod.

drexappeal

Did you research this before you did it?

You do realize that this is NOT a plug and play mod. You can't just swap out the cluster and assume that it will adapt. The 2005 cluster is on a completely different system than 2001-2004.5 models. There are so many other things that need to be done in order to get everything working properly.

Do a search. There has been several discussions on this topic. BTW...I might even merge your thread with the former topics.

drexappeal

Just so you are all aware, I just merged 5 new threads discussing the same thing.

Sunman and Steve both have done instrument cluster swaps. Steve put in a w209 cluster. Sunman has a w211 cluster (I think)?

Anyways, this topic has been discussed several times and for those of you that are getting ideas that this will be a plug and play deal, I highly suggest searching through all the posts first before you make an impulsive move and buy a 2005 cluster, thinking you can just swap your 2001-2004.5 cluster out.

nrod95

I know I have to reprogramm the odometer, but I am having a hard time finding a place that will do it. I was wondering if there was anyone knows where I can go in the Florida region. The dealership wont do it because of the year difference. Once I do that, I am going to keep them on. The new tach is great with my 6 speed. I am willing to scarfice my steering wheel buttons for the radio. All the other functions work. Either way, I am suppose to leave to italy in a few weeks. I figure I can buy the radio with "MOST" there for cheap. And for those who were wondering, it is just plug and play with these clusters, it took me 5 min to swap them. They fit the same and everything.

SUNILP

What you have done is a mistake. Swapping to that cluster will cause you more problems than anything due to mileage mismatch. your older cluster may not display correct mileage now. If you searched the forum, you would have seen the problems associated with a cluster swap as you have done. The last person that did this bought a used cluster and could not get his old cluster to work afterwards and had to replace his old cluster. You CANNOT program mileage on the cluster if it has more than 1000 miles on it. You will NOT be able to use the radio controls.

SUNILP

If you think swapping to a MOST radio is plug and play, you are deeply mistaken.

Here is everything required to do it correctly.
Sound Harness
UHI/VCS/Teleaid Harness
Comand Harness
Rear Bracket to hold Comand
Upper Switch row and connectors on harness
A/C Controls
Upper Switch Row Wood Panel
A/C Controls Wood panel
Overhead Control Panel
*1* Instrument Cluster to 805 Spec.
*2* Instrument Cluster Rear bracket in dash.
*3* PTS Control Unit
Comand Unit
UHI Bracket
UHI PSe
UHI Cradle
UHI Cradle Clip/Floor Plate
Bluetooth Antenna for UHI PSE
*4* Overhead Control Panel
CD changer (MP3)
*5* Teleaid Module
MOST Fiber Optic Cable
*6* REAR SAM
*7* Front SAM
*8* Sound Amplifer
Rear View Mirror and Harness
Central Gateway

SUNILP

I started with a 211 cluster but hated the errors I got since I did not have a battery control module in the car and a central gateway. I later switched to a CLK cluster and it operates perfectly. I recently did a 2002 c32 with 2003 CLK cluster. He is a forum member from Chicago. That swap is not a big deal but the cluster has a minor gap on top which can be corrected later if it bothers you. I don't even notice it anymore.

drexappeal

Thanks, sunman. I didn't want people jumping all over this thinking they can just swap at the drop of a hat.

I may do the w209 swap at some point.

nrod95

Well thanks sunman for the advice,
I was afraid of replacing everything behind the dash, but its no biggie. It will be a fun project. I was planning to strip a newer c230 at a junk yard when i go to europe. I want to upgrade my car completely since my car is the strip model for the 2004 c230 and has very few options. Anyways, I saw what you did on your site. If you have anymore advice I would appreciate it. Oh and how did you go about reprograming your gauges?

SUNILP

reprogramming the cluster for correct mileage is only possible on new clusters or used clusters less than 1000 miles. You will require a star diagnose for lots of programming in the modules.

JERU107

Quick question: Does the cluster from a coupe fit a sedan? Also does any other cluster fit the W203 sedans?

SUNILP

05 and later coupes can share clusters with 05 and later sedans. 01-04.5 sedans and coupes are different.

JERU107

I want to update the cluster in my 2002 C240 Sedan. What options do I have?

Mu9enx

i have the 01' c320, and i wanted the new style cluster
hmm.. i also would like to know, but if sunil says its different, most likely the clusters won't be interchangable for our cars.

SUNILP

01 and 02 cars can use clk clusters but we have run into issues in programming mileage into clk clusters. so far 03 and later c classes have no problems.

MJ50

that's on my wish list...

WaveyKat

WOW thats sucks that i wont be able to update to the W209 Clk Cluster

moosejaw

How difficult is this toi make work in a 04' w203 and more importantly how much is the cost?

mbdragon55

so i cant put a 2005+ cluster in my 2001 c240?

SUNILP

it is not a direct fit and requires modification to make work. Replacement of the rear frame inside the dash is required. As I stated, 01-02 cars may have issues programming mileage. My 03 works fine with a clk cluster. See link. http://web.mac.com/motorwerks/German...t_Cluster.html